[LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
So the current management process in JIRA is a bit rusty, but is intended to be (as in I used to do it that way but no reason why anyone else should): New issue comes in (Version Unscheduled) We assign it to a future version. We use 3.2 for 'yes, soon' and 3.x for 'later'. It gets done with said

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/10/2013 23:59, sebb wrote: On 13 October 2013 20:47, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/13 8:09 AM, James Carman wrote: Well, it has been 72 hours, so let's tally up the votes. As I see it (counting votes on both lists): +1s James Carman Romain Manni-Bucau Matt

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2013 02:55, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Hi, one of the points that seem to always come up once in a while is the process of releasing components. I've never done it myself so I'm asking people who have done it: I find myself

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2013 05:26, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 2013-10-14, sebb wrote: On 9 October 2013 05:43, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: why vote on Nexus staged artifacts if the tarball is fine? I'm not talking about releasing to MC directly but rather about not pushing anything to Nexus

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 14/10/2013 07:45, Henri Yandell a écrit : On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Could be I am misunderstanding the proposal. Do you mean a) RM is not obligated to do anything but tag a release and create tarballs or b) RM should just be trusted to do

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 03:55, Henri Yandell a écrit : I find myself wondering why a release vote is anything more than: I propose that r6525 of dir be tagged as 3.2. What say ye all? +1, assuming the revision has almost everything ready for a release (at least up to date release notes). That may

Re: Jira is nuts

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 02:48, Gary Gregory a écrit : One small step for man, one giant leap backward for mankind ;) Should we vote to migrate back to Bugzilla then ? ;) Emmanuel Bourg - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 08:06, Henri Yandell a écrit : What do others think? I quite like triaging the feature requests with a 'n.x' version and a '(n+1).0' version. The former indicates that the request can be implemented in a compatible manner, and the latter indicates this can't be done without a

Re: [LANG] Git pull requests

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 07:54, Henri Yandell a écrit : Not all are open, I know #1 is in the code but I don't know how to close the requests. Excellent question. It seems the apache group on Github has no member: https://github.com/apache?tab=members I wonder if it's possible to add members while

Re: [LANG] Git pull requests

2013-10-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2013-10-14, Henri Yandell wrote: These are all sitting in our pull request queue: https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pulls?direction=descpage=1sort=createdstate=open Not all are open, I know #1 is in the code but I don't know how to close the requests. In a similar situation in Ant

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 14/10/2013 02:55, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Hi, one of the points that seem to always come up once in a while is the process of releasing components. I've never

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote: Le 14/10/2013 08:06, Henri Yandell a écrit : What do others think? I quite like triaging the feature requests with a 'n.x' version and a '(n+1).0' version. The former indicates that the request can be implemented in

Re: Jira is nuts

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote: Le 14/10/2013 02:48, Gary Gregory a écrit : One small step for man, one giant leap backward for mankind ;) Should we vote to migrate back to Bugzilla then ? ;) Stick a big banner on the Apache JIRA saying Wow, this

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2013 09:41, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 14/10/2013 02:55, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Hi, one of the points that seem to always come up once in a while is the process

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Wearing my old Attic fart hat - something is dead when there is no one left to turn the light out. Something is inactive when it couldn't pass a vote to keep the project alive (ie: 3 +1s). So that's one way to do this. Make a file in SVN. Put each component in it (include the sandbox perhaps).

Re: [VOTE] Release JCI 1.1 based on RC1

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
+1 Emmanuel Bourg Le 09/10/2013 17:21, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : This is a vote to release Apache Commons JCI 1.1 based on RC1. This is a bug fix release and an update to work with more recent versions of its dependencies. Tag:

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release JCI 1.1 based on RC1

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
This vote passes with five +1 votes from the following people: Olivier Lamy James Carman Torsten Curdt Matt Benson Emmanuel Bourg Thank you for your reviews, I'll proceed with the release. Emmanuel Bourg Le 09/10/2013 17:21, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : This is a vote to release Apache Commons

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Thanks to the infra team we now have JIRA and svn commit notifications on the channel. Enjoy :) Emmanuel Bourg Le 10/10/2013 18:15, James Carman a écrit : As a reminder, we do have an IRC channel set up on freenode. It's #asfcommons. Matt Benson and I are usually the only ones hanging out

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 14 Oct 2013, at 15:34, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Thanks to the infra team we now have JIRA and svn commit notifications on the channel. Enjoy :) boah thats cool! Thanks for organizing that! (assuming oyu did!) Emmanuel Bourg Le 10/10/2013 18:15, James Carman a écrit : As a reminder, we

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Gary Gregory
What (free) IRC client do you recommend for Windows (7)? Gary On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote: Thanks to the infra team we now have JIRA and svn commit notifications on the channel. Enjoy :) Emmanuel Bourg Le 10/10/2013 18:15, James Carman a écrit :

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
I use X-Chat for Linux [1] and Windows [2] [1] http://xchat.org [2] http://www.silverex.org/news/ Bruno From: Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Apache

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 15:53, Gary Gregory a écrit : What (free) IRC client do you recommend for Windows (7)? I just use Chatzilla, it's good enough for chatting. I bookmarked irc://barjavel.freenode.net/asfcommons to join easily from Firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
There is an #apache-commons channel that was created a long time ago when the previous Apache Commons project started. Daniel Gruno from infra can manage to transfer is to us. Channels prefixed with #asf are usually more foundation oriented, and those with the #apache- prefix are usually for

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Matt Benson
wow, didn't know that... when Simo and I created the current channel (I'll take blame here) I elected to call it asf-commons simply due to it's being shorter than apache-commons and simply commons being too generic. My vote is whatever. :) Matt On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Emmanuel Bourg

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
I don't really understand the difference to be honest... what would you discuss on a more foundation related channel? I'm happy with #asfcommons :-) 2013/10/14 Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wow, didn't know that... when Simo and I created the current channel (I'll take blame here) I

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Matt Benson
Well, e.g. #asfinfra and #asftac are committees under the foundation hierarchy, as opposed to being tied to a PMC. Matt On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Benedikt Ritter brit...@apache.orgwrote: I don't really understand the difference to be honest... what would you discuss on a more

Re: svn commit: r1531846 - in /commons/proper/pool/trunk: ./ src/main/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/ src/test/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 3:50 AM, ma...@apache.org wrote: Author: markt Date: Mon Oct 14 10:50:28 2013 New Revision: 1531846 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1531846 Log: Add CGLib proxy implementation and test. Added:

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi Hen, anything that makes working through the issues easier is good. But I think i don't understand your proposal completely. Do you want to create a new version that is called feature requests? That would feel like duplicating information available as ticket type. As far as I understand

Re: [LANG] Git pull requests

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
The said contributor was asked, but didn't respond. I guess we have to ask infra or live with it :-) 2013/10/14 Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org On 2013-10-14, Henri Yandell wrote: These are all sitting in our pull request queue:

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6

2013-10-14 Thread dam6923 .
Just a couple of immediate thoughts (just starting to look things over...) In SevenZFile.java Constructor... 1) Close file on exception instead of the current technique of keeping a succeeded flag. 2) Move setting the password to the last line of the constructor so that it isn't stored if an

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6

2013-10-14 Thread dam6923 .
org.apache.commons.compress.compressors.lzma.LZMACompressorInputStream#read() Current: count(ret == -1 ? -1 : 1); Change: count(ret == -1 ? 0 : 1); On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: I think enough issues have been identified to warrant a second RC.

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6

2013-10-14 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM, dam6923 . dam6...@gmail.com wrote: Just a couple of immediate thoughts (just starting to look things over...) In SevenZFile.java Constructor... 1) Close file on exception instead of the current technique of keeping a succeeded flag. 2) Move setting the

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 2:04 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: Wearing my old Attic fart hat - something is dead when there is no one left to turn the light out. Something is inactive when it couldn't pass a vote to keep the project alive (ie: 3 +1s). So that's one way to do this. Make a file in SVN. Put each

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
The nice thing about Hen's solution is, that I expect it to be better structured. When 20 people begin voting on 30 different components it will get confusing in that thread. Having one single file which contains the result of the vote would be very easy. How do you want to reach non commons

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6

2013-10-14 Thread dam6923 .
org.apache.commons.compress.archivers.ar.ArArchiveInputStream#getNextArEntry() The code to skip to the next available entry looks a bit inefficient because it reads one byte at a time in a loop. Consider using org.apache.commons.compress.utils.IOUtils.skip(InputStream, long) Consider using

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 9:18 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: The nice thing about Hen's solution is, that I expect it to be better structured. When 20 people begin voting on 30 different components it will get confusing in that thread. Having one single file which contains the result of the vote would be very

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to Phil's +1 meaning. :) On Monday, October 14, 2013, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/14/13 9:18 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: The nice thing about Hen's solution is, that I expect it to be better structured. When 20 people begin voting on 30 different components it will get confusing in that

Re: svn commit: r1531846 - in /commons/proper/pool/trunk: ./ src/main/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/ src/test/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/

2013-10-14 Thread sebb
On 14 October 2013 11:50, ma...@apache.org wrote: Author: markt Date: Mon Oct 14 10:50:28 2013 New Revision: 1531846 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1531846 Log: Add CGLib proxy implementation and test. Added:

New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Hi all, Please welcome Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko as a new committers of the Apache Commons project. The Commons PMC has voted to grant committership to them and they accepted. Both accounts have already been set up and they can begin working on the Commons components. Ate and Woonsan, welcome to

Re: New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Gary Gregory
Welcome aboard Ate and Woonsan! Gary On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Luc Maisonobe l...@spaceroots.org wrote: Hi all, Please welcome Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko as a new committers of the Apache Commons project. The Commons PMC has voted to grant committership to them and they accepted.

Re: New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Adrian Crum
Congratulations to Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko! Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/14/2013 10:51 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Hi all, Please welcome Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko as a new committers of the Apache Commons project. The Commons PMC has voted to grant

Re: New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Matt Benson
Welcome, guys! Matt On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote: Congratulations to Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko! Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/14/2013 10:51 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Hi all, Please welcome Ate

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hey, please review http://svn.apache.org/r1532011 I was thinking about deprecating Validate.notNull(T) as well because we now have Objects.requireNotNull(Object). The problem is that Validate has notNull(T, String, Object...) which does substitution in the message, while Objects only has

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Matt Benson
Hi Benedikt, see inline: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM, brit...@apache.org wrote: Author: britter Date: Mon Oct 14 18:15:39 2013 New Revision: 1532011 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1532011 Log: Deprecate methods that are available in Java 7's java.lang.Objects Modified:

Re: New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
Thank you all for the trust and the warm welcome! Regards, Ate On 10/14/2013 07:51 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Hi all, Please welcome Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko as a new committers of the Apache Commons project. The Commons PMC has voted to grant committership to them and they accepted. Both

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2013/10/14 Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com Hi Benedikt, see inline: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM, brit...@apache.org wrote: Author: britter Date: Mon Oct 14 18:15:39 2013 New Revision: 1532011 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1532011 Log: Deprecate methods that are available in

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi Matt, (fired the last one without adding my comment :-) 2013/10/14 Benedikt Ritter benerit...@gmail.com 2013/10/14 Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com Hi Benedikt, see inline: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM, brit...@apache.org wrote: Author: britter Date: Mon Oct 14 18:15:39

[WIKI] Request to be added to the wiki Contributors Group

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
Can someone add my wiki name (AteDouma) to the Contributors Group page [1]? Thanks, Ate [1] https://wiki.apache.org/commons/ContributorsGroup - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional

Re: New committers: Ate Douma and Woonsan Ko

2013-10-14 Thread Woonsan Ko
Hi All, Thank you so much for your warm welcome and allowing me to work for Apache Commons. I hope to help revive SCXML project and build a strong community around it. Cheers, Woonsan On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:52 PM, Luc Maisonobe l...@spaceroots.org wrote: Hi all, Please welcome

Re: svn commit: r1531846 - in /commons/proper/pool/trunk: ./ src/main/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/ src/test/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2013 17:59, sebb wrote: Added: commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/CglibProxyHandler.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/proxy/CglibProxyHandler.java?rev=1531846view=auto

Fwd: svn commit: r1532031 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/BooleanUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Thoughts? Maybe this should be renamed to isOneTrue(boolean...) in the next major release?! -- Forwarded message -- From: brit...@apache.org Date: 2013/10/14 Subject: svn commit: r1532031 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/BooleanUtils.java To:

[JIRA] Request to be given Commons committer karma in JIRA

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
Hi Commons team, Can someone grant me, and likewise for Woonsan, committer karma in JIRA for at least Commons SCXML so we can start picking up and assigning issues? Thanks, Ate - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [JIRA] Request to be given Commons committer karma in JIRA

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
On 10/14/2013 09:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote: Hi Commons team, Can someone grant me, and likewise for Woonsan, committer karma in JIRA for at least Commons SCXML so we can start picking up and assigning issues? Forgot to mention my ASF JIRA handle is: adouma and for Woonsan: woon_san Thanks,

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6

2013-10-14 Thread Oliver Heger
Am 14.10.2013 06:11, schrieb Stefan Bodewig: On 2013-10-13, Oliver Heger wrote: The artifacts look good, the build works fine with Java 1.7 on Windows 7. I tried to build with Java 1.5, but got: Tests in error:

Re: [JIRA] Request to be given Commons committer karma in JIRA

2013-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2013 20:27, Ate Douma wrote: On 10/14/2013 09:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote: Hi Commons team, Can someone grant me, and likewise for Woonsan, committer karma in JIRA for at least Commons SCXML so we can start picking up and assigning issues? Forgot to mention my ASF JIRA handle is:

Re: [JIRA] Request to be given Commons committer karma in JIRA

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
On 10/14/2013 09:33 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 14/10/2013 20:27, Ate Douma wrote: On 10/14/2013 09:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote: Hi Commons team, Can someone grant me, and likewise for Woonsan, committer karma in JIRA for at least Commons SCXML so we can start picking up and assigning issues?

Re: svn commit: r1532038 - /commons/proper/beanutils/branches/java5/

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Good idea! 2013/10/14 ohe...@apache.org Author: oheger Date: Mon Oct 14 19:44:55 2013 New Revision: 1532038 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1532038 Log: Created a branch for adding generics and Java5 features. Added: commons/proper/beanutils/branches/java5/ - copied from

[compress] Clirr (was Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.6)

2013-10-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2013-10-14, Oliver Heger wrote: Am 14.10.2013 06:11, schrieb Stefan Bodewig: On 2013-10-13, Oliver Heger wrote: When I build the site locally, I get a different clirr report showing 9 errors because some public methods have been made final. Strange. Why would Clirr create different

Re: svn commit: r1532038 - /commons/proper/beanutils/branches/java5/

2013-10-14 Thread Olivier Lamy
Could make more sense in 2013 to have generics in trunk and move previous trunk in a maintenance branch. ? -- Olivier On Oct 15, 2013 6:46 AM, Benedikt Ritter brit...@apache.org wrote: Good idea! 2013/10/14 ohe...@apache.org Author: oheger Date: Mon Oct 14 19:44:55 2013 New Revision:

[SCXML] Proposal - drop Ant build support

2013-10-14 Thread Ate Douma
Hi SCXML community, I'd like to propose dropping Ant build support for the next major SCXML version 1.0, which development now has been reactivated on trunk. Both Woonsan and myself are 'Maven' adepts, and have no use nor interest in maintaining and updating/fixing the already outdated Ant

Re: svn commit: r1532083 - /commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/pool2/impl/TestGenericKeyedObjectPool.java

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 1:42 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: Author: markt Date: Mon Oct 14 20:42:03 2013 New Revision: 1532083 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1532083 Log: Fix some FindBugs warnings Modified:

Re: [SCXML] Proposal - drop Ant build support

2013-10-14 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
I'm +1 for this, but I think there are components that need this ant build for Debian packages... probably someone else can chime in and confirm if that's the case for scxml. Cheers,    Bruno P. Kinoshita http://kinoshita.eti.br http://tupilabs.com - Original Message - From: Ate

Re: [SCXML] Proposal - drop Ant build support

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 22:51, Bruno P. Kinoshita a écrit : I'm +1 for this, but I think there are components that need this ant build for Debian packages... probably someone else can chime in and confirm if that's the case for scxml. I did say the Ant build was used for some Debian packages, but

Re: [SCXML] Proposal - drop Ant build support

2013-10-14 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Am 14.10.2013, 23:22 Uhr, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org: I did say the Ant build was used for some Debian packages, but scxml isn't in Debian yet and I'm updating the packages to use Maven instead. So go for it. Do you use a deb-builder script or similiar to package those or do you

Re: [SCXML] Proposal - drop Ant build support

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/10/2013 23:38, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit : Do you use a deb-builder script or similiar to package those or do you use unix:deb or assembly for that inside maven? For the official packages I use maven-repo-helper [1] and maven-debian-helper [2]. It configures Maven to run in offline mode

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Commons JCI 1.1 released

2013-10-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
The Apache Commons Team is pleased to announce the release of Apache Commons JCI 1.1. JCI is a java compiler interface. It can be used to either compile java (or any other language that can be compiled to java classes like e.g. groovy or javascript) to Java. Changes in this version: o Updated

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Benedikt Ritter brit...@apache.org wrote: Hi Hen, anything that makes working through the issues easier is good. But I think i don't understand your proposal completely. Do you want to create a new version that is called feature requests? That would feel like

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
One reason I like this, apart from the general visualization of the state of our todo group, is that it gives us a very nice way to point new contributors to potential work. We point them at the Code Needed version, with a strong expectation that the patch they provide will go in (as an issue we

[CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone can present a dormancy challenge at any time, I'm challenging all of Commons Proper. I've made a file in SVN:

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I agree it would be strange. I think we consider this as a duplication to keep. Deprecating and removing one method out of Validate isn't going to simplify its API, and I wouldn't expect users to be using it for only that one method. So -1 to deprecation of Validate.notNull(...). Hen On Mon,

Re: svn commit: r1532031 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/BooleanUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I think we treat it as a bug and fix. The code is fine for the explained use of an array of length 2, but fails when you move to larger chains. Given the common meaning of the name, I think people would have noticed if they'd needed xor to work for arrays 2 and it didn't. So a) I think we can fix

[math] assigning issues in JIRA

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
I just assigned myself a few issues. This doesn't mean anything more than that I am working on them, i.e., should not discourage anyone from also working on them. It just helps me keep track of what I want to get to next. Phil

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 8:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone can present a dormancy challenge at any time, I'm challenging all of Commons Proper. I've made a file in

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Adrian Crum
I am willing to help out with CSV. ID = adrianc. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/14/2013 9:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/14/13 8:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 9:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/14/13 8:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone can present a dormancy challenge at any time, I'm challenging all

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 9:26 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: I am willing to help out with CSV. ID = adrianc. Done :) Phil Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/14/2013 9:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/14/13 8:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I contend that all of the Commons components

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Adrian Crum
Thanks! I'm a committer in the sandbox, but I haven't ventured into proper yet. I was hoping to get Commons Convert promoted to proper someday. In the meantime I would be happy to work on CSV. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/14/2013 9:32 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
svn co -N https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/trunks-proper Happy to move it, also happy to have people pick up a bit of SVN usefulness :) I've lifted the definition to: (you monitor commits, JIRA, mail, and develop code for that component) On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Phil Steitz

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Dave Brosius
I vote -1 to this process. I see no value in attic-izing projects. On 10/14/2013 11:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone can present a dormancy challenge at

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Three values jump out to me: * First is for our users. Having code available that no one is supporting while giving the appearance of support (ie: active Commons) is a bad experience. * Second (generally for the ASF) is that if we have code we can't maintain, because there is no one who can

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Dave Brosius
Perhaps for new users, however there are lots of projects currently using these libraries. We are extending the middle finger to them by doing this. I would come away thinking i'm not going to risk using any Apache library, if I they will just yank away the next project i choose to use

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Am 15.10.2013 um 07:14 schrieb Dave Brosius dbros...@apache.org: Perhaps for new users, however there are lots of projects currently using these libraries. We are extending the middle finger to them by doing this. I would come away thinking i'm not going to risk using any Apache library,

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Dave Brosius
I couldn't disagree more. Dormant/attic means the project has leprosy. I don't know the answer to this, but wondering, has there ever been a commit to an attic'ed project? I personally would never think of doing that. On 10/15/2013 01:22 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Am 15.10.2013 um 07:14

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 9:59 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: Three values jump out to me: * First is for our users. Having code available that no one is supporting while giving the appearance of support (ie: active Commons) is a bad experience. * Second (generally for the ASF) is that if we have code we can't

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/14/13 10:33 PM, Dave Brosius wrote: I couldn't disagree more. Dormant/attic means the project has leprosy. I don't know the answer to this, but wondering, has there ever been a commit to an attic'ed project? I personally would never think of doing that. There have been commons