Re: [ognl] SVN $ID and @author

2011-10-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Can be useful, if one comes across a source file in isolation from SVN. What exactly can this person then do with a revision number, my committer name and the date i have last commited if he does not know about svn revisions, who else does commit and when last commit was? For example, in

Re: [ognl] cleanup ognl-21 - bw?

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm honestly skeptical on removing stuff, no one knows who's using that methods - I should to take care about checking on MyBatis code, AFAIK Struts uses some of them... What

[ognl] OGNL-13 resolved?

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello guys, is this one resolved? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OGNL-13 Looks like it - if yes, please close :-) Cheers Christian -- http://www.grobmeier.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [ognl] OGNL-13 resolved?

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
:58 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, is this one resolved? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OGNL-13 Looks like it - if yes, please close :-) Cheers Christian -- http://www.grobmeier.de

Re: [ognl] OGNL-13 resolved?

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
of 'Closed' and then move to 'Closed' only once the RC has passed! Thoughts? best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme

[ognl] OGNL-9 fixed too?

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
This looks fixed too - can i set it to resolved? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OGNL-9 TO my knowledge i have runned all tests with v4 -- http://www.grobmeier.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[ognl] Make us of changes.xml

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey guys, i would like to suggest we make consequent use of changes.xml. Whatever we do, we should open an issue, fix the stuff, and then add a comment to changes.xml. We do this in log4php and I feel it is very good: you always can find the changes per issues (via Fisheye- just check in with the

Re: [ognl] Make us of changes.xml

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
mobile device, so please excuse typos and brevity. Maurizio Cucchiara Il giorno 14/ott/2011 13.34, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hey guys, i would like to suggest we make consequent use of changes.xml. Whatever we do, we should open an issue, fix the stuff, and then add

Re: [ognl] Codestyle

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Of course, but automated changes are not guaranteed error-free. I never had an error with Eclipse (use that since 2002 or so). And it's easy to overlook some other change that was accidentally committed at the same time. As with every change. Actually with this argument we should stop

Re: [DISCUSS] Restyling the commons-skin

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Hello, Looks nice ! I'd like to use for some other projects. +1 I like too the idea about having this skin in the maven skins. +1!! Cheers Christian @Simone: feel free to commit in maven sandbox if you want. It's open

Re: [ognl] Codestyle

2011-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Checkstyle shows me more or less that we should go conform the Sun standards. I would love this, but want to make sure we have agreed on it. Because

[ognl] cleanup ognl-21 - bw?

2011-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, the code patch on ognl-21 does remove some public methods on OgnlRuntime and SimpleNode. I don't think folks are usually caring on those two classes, but how do we proceed with backwards compatility? Daniel has remove a bunch of methods, which really look a bit outdated or unused. As we are

Re: [ognl] cleanup ognl-21 - bw?

2011-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, the code patch on ognl-21 does remove some public methods on OgnlRuntime and SimpleNode. I don't think folks are usually caring on those two classes, but how do we proceed

[ognl] Codestyle

2011-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, Checkstyle shows me more or less that we should go conform the Sun standards. I would love this, but want to make sure we have agreed on it. Because it would need a good bunch of bracket-moving Cheers Christian - To

Re: [DISCUSS] Restyling the commons-skin

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
for the site, and I would like to take advantage from a discussion born in the incubator ML[1] to renew the discussion, because our commons-fellow Christian Grobmeier came out with nice (IMHO) improvements[2] just adopting a style provided from Twitter[3] (ASL Licensed) called Bootstrap. I just did a 5

[ognl] OGNL-8 patch 1

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, it seems the patches on the issue tracker are not straightforward to apply. As Simone suggested, I would like to commit the changes (basically a combination of my own ideas, work of Daniel Pitts and some inspiration from JEXL) to the trunk. Then everybody can review it and - if necessary -

Re: [ognl] OGNL-8 patch 1

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/ On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, it seems the patches on the issue tracker are not straightforward to apply. As Simone suggested, I would like to commit the changes (basically a combination of my own ideas, work of Daniel Pitts and some

Re: [ognl] Testcases confusion

2011-10-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It's not clear whether the exception is expected, in which case the output should be suppressed, or an error, in which case the test should just be allowed to fail with the exception. I was looking into the test cases but they are, well, pretty different from what I am used so I thought I

[ognl] Testcases confusion

2011-10-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I just runned the test cases of ognl (first time I am afraid :-(). They all end up green, but throw console exceptions. Is this ok? I was looking into the test cases but they are, well, pretty different from what I am used so I thought I better ask. From what I understood I would say

Re: [ognl] use of Javassist

2011-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Hi all guys, there was an era when OGNL was totally dependencies-less, today relies on Javassist - I never understood the reason of adopting it. OGNL didn have dependencies? How cool is that! I love libs which have

Re: [vote] Graduate OGNL into Commons

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
2011/8/25 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: The vote has passed with 10 persons voting. From Commons: Gary Gregory Henri Yandell Sebastian Bazley Oliver Heger Christian Grobmeier Simone Tripodi Luc Maisonobe Paul Benedict (non binding) From OGNL: Maurizio Cucchiara Christian

Re: [vote] Graduate OGNL into Commons

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Yes. I just requested the karma for: javadrewd jkuhnert leadpipe lukaszlenart mcucchiara upayavira Might take a few days - sorry if it comes to a delay 2011/8/31 Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com: Do I need the same ? Regards -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/

Re: [ognl] IMport issues

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I've asked to import OGNL issues as well, any one to help mi with that ? Just ask Tony for a user. What is your criteria do move the issues? I have not really a deeper knowledge of OGNL. Why aren't we moving all issues from the temp project to the real project at once and sort them out there

Re: [ognl] Struts Issue

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
on OGNL space on Jira, WDYT? Good idea, I have done that and linked both issues together Cheers Many thanks in advance and thanks for notifying!!! All the best, alles gute!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Christian

[RESULT] [vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Dear all, this vote has passed with 6 +1, 4 of them binding: Chris Mattmann Martijn Dashorst Christian Grobmeier Robert Donkin Craig Russel * Maurizio Cucchiara * Thanks to all who voted! OGNL will perform the next steps: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject Cheers

[ognl] IMport issues

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello; https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OGNL-3 Last information in this issue was, opensymphony is down - it seems they are back: http://jira.opensymphony.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=10090fixfor=-1 We should use

Re: [RESULT] [vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 August 2011 13:38, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, this vote has passed with 6 +1, 4 of them binding: Chris Mattmann Martijn Dashorst Christian Grobmeier Robert Donkin Craig Russel * I assume

Re: [ognl] IMport issues

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara mcucchi...@apache.org wrote: Christian, this is the INFRA issue http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2577 Looks like Lukasz is taking care of. Thanks Maurizio Maurizio Cucchiara On 30 August 2011 14:44, Christian Grobmeier grobme

[ognl] Struts Issue

2011-08-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello guys, a discussion on the STruts list brought this to my attention: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WW-3580 As Struts is one of OGNL main consumers, maybe we make them a little gift with OGNL 4.0. What do you think? Cheers Christian

[result] [vote] Graduate OGNL into Commons

2011-08-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The vote has passed with 10 persons voting. From Commons: Gary Gregory Henri Yandell Sebastian Bazley Oliver Heger Christian Grobmeier Simone Tripodi Luc Maisonobe Paul Benedict (non binding) From OGNL: Maurizio Cucchiara Christian Grobmeier Olivier Lamy Simone Tripodi I will now open

[vote] Graduate OGNL into Commons

2011-08-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
OGNL [1] has checked off all status items in the incubator. Most of the OGNL developers are already commons developers and the risk of failure is pretty small, even without having made a release. As the Commons project is already very experienced with releasing components, there is no need for

Re: [VOTE] Accept BSF as a Commons component

2011-08-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 to both votes On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:13 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: BSF [1] needs to move out of Jakarta. It's not really big enough to warrant its own TLP. IMO Commons would be a good alternative home for BSF. Can we please vote to: 1. Accept BSF as a Commons Component 2.

Re: [general] Apache + Meritocracy [Was: [logging] logging vs slf4j]

2011-08-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thank you for posting this summary of the Apache way. Yes, it is damn hard to track contributions, especially if one wishes to do it accurately and fairly. However, it is possible and even easy to keep *approximate* track of contributions, e.g. via commit points as described in my

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Another option is to try to work with Ceki to address some of the concerns of the commons community with regards to using slf4j. * There is a hassle with too many jars for dependencies with slf4j. * Every time Ceki goes on vacation everything stops. * Some have a preference for Apache driven

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Paul, BTW, in terms of swelling community development, if LOG4J+JCL were to merge and just become JCL2, it could have the visibility of all Commons committers. Isn't it much more of a common component than a separate project? I think the logging project is dysfunctional anyway -- make it a

Re: [VOTE][DAEMON] Release Apache Commons Daemon 1.0.7

2011-08-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 Thanks Mladen! On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org wrote: The proposed Apache Commons Daemon 1.0.7 release is now available for voting. It can be obtained from: http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon-1.0.7/ The svn tag is:

Re: [VOTE][DAEMON] Release Apache Commons Daemon 1.0.7

2011-08-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
(kindly provided on Christian Grobmeier blog[1])  to check signatures and output is OK Well done!!! Have a nice day, all the best, Simo [1] http://www.grobmeier.de/checking-md5-and-signatures-with-a-shell-script-29062011.html $ ./verify.sh Checking file: ./commons-daemon-1.0.7.jar Using md5

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

2011-08-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Simo, thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a question (to all).  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation.  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the compliancy level of OGNL to Commons

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

2011-08-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, all the best! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simo, thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a question (to all).  * A list of the three

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.2 Based on 1.2RC2

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 sigs, hashes are fine, site looks good and zip/gz etc unpack and run on mac os x10.6.8 with java 1.6.0_26 Thanks Stefan! On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/compress/tags/COMPRESS_1.2_RC2/ Site:

[ognl] Status items Graduation

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi I just signed off all status items on the incubation status page (needs a while to sync to the latest version). Anyway, I think OGNL is already fine to graduate. Most of the community is already in commons, so I think ognl has a proven community which will not go away after a while. If ognl

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: At some stage I started to refactor commons logging into a multi module maven project and got rid of the discovery part. So you would have the commons-logging-api jar plus exactly one of the implementation bridges. So you

Re: [ognl] Status items Graduation

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Luc Maisonobe luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Le 29/07/2011 10:53, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : Hi I just signed off all status items on the incubation status page (needs a while to sync to the latest version). Anyway

Re: [ognl] Status items Graduation

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Guess the same - would like to see his desktop wallpaper, might explain something ;-) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara maurizio.cucchi...@gmail.com wrote: Also I guess that Simone was not talking with Christina Aguilera :) On 29 July 2011 12:27, Simone Tripodi

Re: [ognl] Status items Graduation

2011-07-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I guess Simo was talking about Luke Blanshard. Oh yes. So, Luke is missing from the OGNL list - we should fix that. Later we must not forget to give him the commons group On 29 July 2011 12:34, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, thanks Christina for the follow-up. BTW

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress 1.2 Based on 1.2RC1

2011-07-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
[x] +1 release it checked sigs, md5 and sha1 all well. All package can be extracted site looks ok On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/compress/tags/COMPRESS_1.2_RC1/ Site:

Re: [vfs] mvn3 eclipse fails

2011-07-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
and LICENSE files. basedir will refer to the core subproject, not the project root, which is where those files are located. On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: I need to revert this. It breaks the site build. Ralph On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Thanks

OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey all, OpenSymphony has closed. Not sure if OSCache has survived. This page recommends OSCache: http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/query-result-caching.html It looks like this project is the follow up: java.net/projects/oscache But it seems also to be rather dead (last commit 4 yrs) Is it time

Re: OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
uh yes :-) Sorry for the spam - time to have dinner and grab a beer! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong list?  ;) Matt On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, OpenSymphony has closed. Not sure

Re: [compress] Proposed Roadmap

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Snappy looks pretty cool! I created an issue for it: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMPRESS-147 Without a fix version ;-) Cheers On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2011-07-23, Simone Tripodi wrote: I think it would be nice having also s pure

Re: [vfs] mvn3 eclipse fails

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
might not work in M2. Gary On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:33, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Just tried to build a eclipse project of vfs with mvn eclipse:eclipse My mvn version is 3.0.3. I get a weird error, so I am wondering if somebody has experienced it before (or something

[vfs] Upgrading to latest pom v21

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, as I have not done anything before with vfs, i would like to ask before I do bigger things with it. I would like to - upgrade from parent pom 19 to 21 - maven-assembly-plugin from 2.2 to 2.2.1 - maven-release-plugin from 2.2-SNAPSHOT to 2.2 Hope thats OK for everybody if commit some

Re: http://commons.apache.org/ognl/download_ognl.cgi Exception

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think that we should consider to include the incubating logo, but AFAIK the incubation process is going to come to the end very soon. I think the same, we should instead put some effort in the graduation discussion :-) Christian I'd like to see other's comments On 21 July 2011 15:39,

Re: http://commons.apache.org/ognl/download_ognl.cgi Exception

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
btw, did you update the incubator.apache.org website with your change of the download section? it is still visible On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara maurizio.cucchi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebb, thanks for your rigorous explanation. I followed your guide lines and I moved to

[ognl] Signing off incubation status items

2011-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
We need to sign off the items listed on this page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ognl.html before we can graduate. I think we can sign off all of this list. I am just unsure on: Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received. It is only necessary to

Re: [compress] Proposed Roadmap

2011-07-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
sounds good :-) On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, From the responses in the Java5 thread I propose the following. (1) Release current trunk minus a few lines of code I already added for    initial Zip64 support plus some minor changes ASAP as

Re: [compress] Require Java5?

2011-07-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: I think the argument is the other way. You should be explaining why you wouldn't simply just move to Java 5. +1 - Java 1.4 must die now. +1 to JDK 1.5 minimum. +1 If we lift up to 1.5 as a minimum what about lifting to

Re: [compress] Require Java5?

2011-07-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2011-07-21, Christian Grobmeier wrote: If we lift up to 1.5 as a minimum what about lifting to compress 2.0? Depends on what we want to do.  If we want to break BWC by introducing genrics, then let's do that.  I am

Re: [compress] Require Java5?

2011-07-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I like the idea of many smaller consecutive releases (release early, release often) instead of a big bang release. For example: - 1.2: Current trunk to gather bug fixes - 1.3: Zip64 (Java 5) - 2.0: Break compatibility, generics, and so on. +1, i like that approach very much!

[ognl] Missing incubator report

2011-07-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Guys, we have missed the second ognl report. It would be good if we could write it pretty fast to show the inc people that ognl is active and well, even when we have forgotten that report. Was there anything else besides: everything well, first discussion about graduation raised? Cheers

Re: [ognl] Missing incubator report

2011-07-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, for me it works as well! :P Many thanks in advance, all the best! PS not sure but IIUS that's the third report we submit... [1] http://markmail.org/message/a6ntvg32s7fikqox http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Christian

Re: [digester] Jaxenter interview about Digester3!!!

2011-07-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Reads great! Love to see things like that On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Hi all guys, just to share with you all a small interview I had with Jaxenter today during lunch-time, I hope that my fellows appreciate how things have been exposed!

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

2011-07-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ognl.html In fact, I think we can resolve every item there. At which point I'd argue we can be graduated by the next board report :) +1 Was it the quickest incubation ever then? :-) - To

Re: [VOTE] Accept BCEL and JCS as Commons components

2011-06-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This is half a dozen related votes in one thread (for convenience), namely: 1. Accept BCEL [1] as Commons component 1a. Grant Commons karma to Dave Brosius (dbrosius) 2. Accept JCS [2] as Commons component 2a.

Re: [VOTE] accept Meiyo as a codebase for a new component

2011-06-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
[X ] +1, accept Meiyo as a new component in Sandbox; [ ] +/-0 [ ] -1, because (please provide a reason why) Interesting project, but is a vote really necessary? As far as I know you wrote it alone, so you could simply drop it into the sandbox? I have asked the same b/c I wrote a JSON lib

[ognl] Website permissions fixed

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey OGNLers, the permissions for the incubator website has just been fixed - you should now be able to update the website at your own. At people, you should see the group incubator Happy uploading ;-) Cheers, Christian - To

Re: [OGNL] the opensymphony.com website is no more active

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
A good place for this question might be infra@a.o - they have done that several times (guess) On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, Coming back to the original topic of the email: the old OGNL JIRA is still reachable on web.archive.org[1], does

[ognl] Website uploaded

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, i have created the current website and deployed it to http://incubator.apache.org/ognl/ It will take a while until it is synced. Website has some problems, but I have uploaded it anyway. Additionally, I have asked at infra if the other podling committers can get write access with adding

Re: [ognl] Website uploaded

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
What kind of problem you are talking about? minor stuff, logo missing for example. Just wanted to express I didn't check in detail and there is a few stuff we need to fix later - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [ognl] Website uploaded

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it's a good starting point anyway. On 3 June 2011 12:24, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of problem you are talking about? minor stuff, logo missing for example. Just wanted to express I didn't check in detail and there is a few stuff we need

Re: [ognl] Website uploaded

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
2011 11:51, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: New website is synced: http://incubator.apache.org/ognl/ Well, don't know about your aesthetic feelings but we could do it ourselves with Gimp? It wil be ugly of course, but we change it later if a designer wants to offer some spare time

Re: Rejoin the PMC...

2011-05-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Since my work life is changing, I may just have more cycles to devote to my role as a PMC member.  I would like to re-join the PMC.  What is the process? Hopefully its just a case of asking, as you have done. If not, we should change the way it is. I have

Re: Unnecessary etiquette rule

2011-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think its unnecessary. If you want to find out who did something, use svn. If a user needs to get a responsible person - we all are somehow. The right person will come out from the mailinglist. Adding yourself is ok if you have done some portions, feel well with the code and responsible for

Re: [VOTE] Revised dormancy policy

2011-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I like the new dormancy suggestion, plus: I am OK with changing revival to require only one ASF committer. and: If someone goes and keeps on working stuff ... well ... then that status is nullified by merit. (not through a single commit though) I don't see a reason to forbid svn access

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
AM +1 2011/5/2 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes will happen when OGNL graduates. After graduation, how would one of the current contributors propose a new committer if they are not themselves on the Commons PMC

Re: [sanselan] old incubator webpage confused me

2011-04-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Julien. this is generated with Confluence... not a clue how to remove it. Will ask at incubator list if somebody has rights/knowledge Cheers On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I accidentally ended up here:

Re: OGNL proposal has been accepted as a new Incubator!!!

2011-04-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
. Christian Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: If the plan is to end up in Commons post-incubation, then I'd strongly suggest you use the same mailing lists. Commons is relatively

Re: OGNL proposal has been accepted as a new Incubator!!!

2011-04-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If the plan is to end up in Commons post-incubation, then I'd strongly suggest you use the same mailing lists. Commons is relatively unique in that all the components share the same mailing list. OGNL should get used to that from the beginning, plus it will bring more interest in on the

Re: [#HIU-270-80127]: [jira] [Updated] (COLLECTIONS-370) Add method MapUtils.putIfNotNull

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
BTW, why do I get this stuff? Am I missing something? Can we block this? Its going to iss...@commons.apache.org 2011/4/18 XXL Webhosting BV sa...@xxlwebhosting.nl: Tomofumi Kitano (JIRA), Wij hebben uw bericht ontvangen. Een van onze medewerkers zal uw bericht zo spoedig mogelijk behandelen

Block: [#HIU-270-80127]: [jira] [Updated] (COLLECTIONS-370) Add method MapUtils.putIfNotNull

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello infra, can request like the below somehow be blocked from sending mail to: iss...@commons.apache.org Cheers, Christian 2011/4/18 XXL Webhosting BV sa...@xxlwebhosting.nl: Tomofumi Kitano (JIRA), Wij hebben uw bericht ontvangen. Een van onze medewerkers zal uw bericht zo spoedig

Re: [ALL] @version tag :)

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
$id is not of interest for me. $id information can easily be found with svn blame/history. For me it can be nuked out - same for @version, i want @since instead On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Colebourne scolebou...@joda.org wrote: How about no @Version tag or $Id ? Stephen On 5

Re: [discovery] org.apache.commons.discovery.log?!?

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I'd tend to remove that package and use commons-logging in the traditional way, WDYT? Probably we should get rid of commons-logging to. Its pretty outdated, slf4j is more widely used. If we want to stick within apache code, I would take log4j - slf4j has a wrapper for it. But commons logging

Re: [discovery] org.apache.commons.discovery.log?!?

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Probably we should get rid of commons-logging to. Its pretty outdated, slf4j is more widely used. It's not outdated, it is just very stable, so has not needed a release. AIUI it's also very widely used as a dependency. would you recommend anybody to use commons-logging? I wouldn't. It seems

Re: [ALL] @version tag :)

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
BTW I would be +1 for NO @version and putting only @since +1 @version contains cruft +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

Re: [discovery] org.apache.commons.discovery.log?!?

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
But commons logging has no more sense meanwhile. Or did i miss something? What gave you that impression? No releases, no question, no discussion on commons-logging. Lack of development on Log4J Slf4J has a rising community and active development. commons-logging imho is the wrapper for a

Re: [discovery] org.apache.commons.discovery.log?!?

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The only purpose of slf4j seems to be to cause unneeded fragmentation and discussions like this, Christian, which you are stirring now for the nth time (n 5, for sure). Well, then lets close this discussion. Just want to add I am not a huge fan of slf4j for the reason you mentioned above.

Re: [ALL] @version tag :)

2011-04-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: -1 to banning @version, as it can be useful Since $Id$ contains the user ID we I would an @version that contains the revision number. -1 to that from me -1 from me too I never have seen a reason to include this

Re: [ALL] @authors tags

2011-04-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/4/11 2:18 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: I thought we had settled on '@author Apache Software Foundation', Did we? TBH I find that pretty pointless and nothing more than noise. I'd be in favor of removing them all

Re: Release Commons Pool 1.5.6 based on RC2

2011-03-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 Two comments: - At the site top left javadocs for 1.5.6 are not linked - groupId is commons-pool. Shouldn't it change to org.apache or something? Guess that one is for later I have not checked sigs On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: The tag is here:

Re: [Math] Committing a file...

2011-02-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, it seems you have checked out and worked on source code from this location: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/math/tags/ But you need to work on that one: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/math/trunk this is the main development path You need to checkout the

Re: [sanselan] project dead?

2010-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello Damjan, i think that the Sanselan developers will welcome your patches. Once they arrived, somebody will have a little time to apply them, I would guess. Before you continue, I would like to suggest you these links: * http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html *

[ANNOUNCE] Commons Compress 1.1 released

2010-08-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The Commons Compress team is pleased to announce the commons-compress-1.1 release! Commons Compress defines an API for working with compression and archive formats. These include: bzip2, gzip and ar, cpio, jar, tar, zip. Source and binary distributions are available for download from the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Commons Compress 1.1 released

2010-08-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
And I would like to thank all who helped me with the Nexus tool and more! :-) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@apache.org wrote: The Commons Compress team is pleased to announce the commons-compress-1.1 release! Commons Compress defines an API for working

Re: [compress] Release - last steps

2010-08-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
delete the old 1.0 release files from dist/*. Will do, thanks Sebb Christian On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Just have uploaded artifacts and released it from nexus. http://www.apache.org/dist/commons/compress/ Site is already uploaded

[compress] Release - last steps

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Just have uploaded artifacts and released it from nexus. http://www.apache.org/dist/commons/compress/ Site is already uploaded with mvn site:deploy It looks strange - have checked the upload on people/3/c.a.o/compress but it looks like it is still the old content, even when my mvn goal was

Re: [Compress] Nexus Promotion Gone Wrong?

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Wow, looks wrong. i would have expected the whole content of this: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/commons/commons-compress/1.1 Promotion should be complete (so the web interface said) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org

Re: [Compress] Nexus Promotion Gone Wrong?

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It seems it is now available: http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/commons/commons-compress/1.1/ I will do some checks, then send out the announce double-checks welcome :-) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, looks wrong. i would have

Re: [compress] Release - last steps

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I will check and send announcement a little later Mirrors have not synced up - I will some more time. And a day or so after that, please delete the old 1.0 release files from dist/*. Will do, thanks Sebb Christian On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme

Re: [nexus] Releasing with nexus (was: Fwd: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress based on RC2)

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
We should release the bits that we voted on and what goes to /dist *is* the release.  Therefore if we are going to vote on bits staged somewhere other than people.apache.org, we need to do something like what sebb describes above.  If wget is used, RMs should re-verify hashes on p.a.o before

Re: [nexus] Releasing with nexus (was: Fwd: [VOTE] Release Commons Compress based on RC2)

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Noone ever proposed using something different. Huh? Christian wrote: Compress 1.0 has everything: http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/commons/commons-compress/1.0/ I like it, to be honest. Everything I need on one place. which I take to mean that he would like to be able to

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