Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop

2018-07-22 Thread Matt Sicker
right now would be include the java.beans property listeners code in > >> [lang]. Maybe internal only. > > > > AFAIK we cannot copy any JVM code into our codebase, even if marked > > internal. > > It would have to be a clean-room implementation. > > > >>

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop

2018-07-20 Thread Gilles
Bruno From: Gilles To: dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Friday, 20 July 2018 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop Hello. On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:30:00 + (UTC), Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: What about introducing our own state listener inte

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop

2018-07-20 Thread sebb
ev@commons.apache.org > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2018 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop > > Hello. > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:30:00 + (UTC), Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: >>>What about introducing our own state liste

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop

2018-07-19 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
ybe internal only. Bruno From: Gilles To: dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Friday, 20 July 2018 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop Hello. On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:30:00 + (UTC), Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: >>What about introdu

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop

2018-07-19 Thread Gilles
cement for Observer/Observable recommended by the JDK developers? Regards, Gilles Cheers Bruno From: Oliver Heger To: dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-19 Thread Oliver Heger
> I wonder what others think about this option? >> >> Cheers >> Bruno >> >> >>    From: Oliver Heger >>   To: dev@commons.apache.org >>   Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 4:13 AM >>   Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencie

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-17 Thread Pascal Schumacher
To: dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) Am 16.07.2018 um 13:40 schrieb Bruno P. Kinoshita: Saw some recent activity around lang 3.8, and remembered about this

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-16 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
day, 17 July 2018 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) Am 16.07.2018 um 13:40 schrieb Bruno P. Kinoshita: > Saw some recent activity around lang 3.8, and remembered about this issue, > and

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-16 Thread Pascal Schumacher
Am 16.07.2018 um 13:40 schrieb Bruno P. Kinoshita: Saw some recent activity around lang 3.8, and remembered about this issue, and then looked for this thread. Gilles' point is really good! Here's the Java 9 docs with the deprecation warning, copied below as well https://docs.oracle.com/javase

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-16 Thread Oliver Heger
be possible to have a simple functional interface to notify listeners about state changes. Oliver > > Cheers > Bruno > > > > > ____ > From: Stephen Colebourne > To: Commons Developers List > Sent: Monday, 11 June 201

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-07-16 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
ebourne To: Commons Developers List Sent: Monday, 11 June 2018 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) Good spot. I think that means [lang] would have to have its own copy of the JDK interfaces. o

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Chas Honton
it easier to provide [lang] as java 9, without requiring >>>> users to include a dependency to java.desktop. >>>> Planning to merge it during the next week if there are no objections >>>> here. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bruno >

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
9:26 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) Good spot. I think that means [lang] would have to have its own copy of the JDK interfaces. or just deprecate the functionality without replacement. Stephen On 10 June

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Stephen Colebourne
eems to be the best what we can do. >> >> Oliver >> >>> >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/275 >>> >>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-1339 >>> >>> >>> >>> ___

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Gilles
onday, 5 June 2017 10:49 PM Subject: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) Am 25.05.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Oliver Heger : Am 24.05.2017 um 13:55 schrieb Stephen Colebourne: On 23 May 2017 at 17:17, sebb wrote: Yes, the

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Oliver Heger
che/commons-lang/pull/275 > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-1339 > > > > From: Benedikt Ritter > To: Commons Developers List > Sent: Monday, 5 June 2017 10:49 PM > Subject: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependenci

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-10 Thread Stephen Colebourne
On 10 June 2018 at 00:02, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: > Yes, that's my understanding. We would use require static on java.desktop, > but users wouldn't have any issues as long as they did not use the version of > the class that requires java.desktop. > > If the user want/needs to use those classes

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-09 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
and forget about this issue (-: Bruno From: Gary Gregory To: Commons Developers List ; Bruno P. Kinoshita Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2018 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-09 Thread Gary Gregory
ache/commons-lang/pull/275 > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-1339 > > > > From: Benedikt Ritter > To: Commons Developers List > Sent: Monday, 5 June 2017 10:49 PM > Subject: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to

Re: [LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2018-06-09 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
ava 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0) > Am 25.05.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Oliver Heger : > > > > Am 24.05.2017 um 13:55 schrieb Stephen Colebourne: >> On 23 May 2017 at 17:17, sebb wrote: >>>> Yes, the >

[LANG] Java 9 problems because of dependencies to java.desktop (Was: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0)

2017-06-05 Thread Benedikt Ritter
> Am 25.05.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Oliver Heger : > > > > Am 24.05.2017 um 13:55 schrieb Stephen Colebourne: >> On 23 May 2017 at 17:17, sebb wrote: Yes, the code compiles and both can be on the classpath, but it is a pain to use, just a different kind of hell. >>> >>> I don't se