Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-17 Thread Matt Sicker
Branches have green checks on them too. Every commit does unless you push more than one at a time to a single branch (then they’re batched). This applies to both Jenkins and GH Actions. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 19:39 Gary Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:23 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > >

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-17 Thread Gary Gregory
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:23 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > Do they show up as branches before or after the PR? If it’s before, maybe > we can disable the PR and just use the branches. > We need to keep PRs IMO: Getting a PR is the main benefit here because a human can verify that there is a matching

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-17 Thread Matt Sicker
Do they show up as branches before or after the PR? If it’s before, maybe we can disable the PR and just use the branches. On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 20:53 Gary Gregory wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:53 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > > > Don’t Dependabot PRs show up as branches in each git

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:53 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > > Don’t Dependabot PRs show up as branches in each git repo? Yes, which let's a build happen on that branch as a GitHub Action, assuming you have Actions enabled for your repo. Gary I noticed that > with the Dependabot config for Log4j2 at

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Matt Sicker
Don’t Dependabot PRs show up as branches in each git repo? I noticed that with the Dependabot config for Log4j2 at least, though perhaps that’s a GitBox feature. On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 19:44 Gary Gregory wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:10 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:10 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > > On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:25 PM Gilles Sadowski > > wrote: > >> > >>> Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 21:09, Gary Gregory a > >>> écrit : > >>> > >>> I think we really want the

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:10 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > > On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:25 PM Gilles Sadowski > > wrote: > >> > >>> Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 21:09, Gary Gregory a > >>> écrit : > >>> > >>> I think we really want the

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:25 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> >>> Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 21:09, Gary Gregory a >>> écrit : >>> >>> I think we really want the PRs, the main benefit is to have the software >>> built and tested WITH the

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:25 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 21:09, Gary Gregory a écrit : > > > > I think we really want the PRs, the main benefit is to have the software > > built and tested WITH the dependency update, that is a huge time saver. > > Yes, but the bot

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 21:09, Gary Gregory a écrit : > > I think we really want the PRs, the main benefit is to have the software > built and tested WITH the dependency update, that is a huge time saver. Yes, but the bot should submit the PR only when asked by a human, at times where it brings

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
I think we really want the PRs, the main benefit is to have the software built and tested WITH the dependency update, that is a huge time saver. Gary On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 13:17 Ralph Goers wrote: > I am not sure that is possible since Dependabot is actually creating PRs > and GitHub sends

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Ralph Goers
I am not sure that is possible since Dependabot is actually creating PRs and GitHub sends those to the mailing list. What I heard was that they would like to have Dependabot just send reports from time to time about what dependencies could be changed rather than create PRs. Matt also mentioned

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gary Gregory
I think the desire-complaint is how to stop Dependabot from sending emails to our ML. Gary On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 09:33 Matt Sicker wrote: > Did you know that you can configure Dependabot to ignore specific > dependencies and version ranges? You can also configure default > reviewers (see also

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Matt Sicker
Did you know that you can configure Dependabot to ignore specific dependencies and version ranges? You can also configure default reviewers (see also the GitHub CODEOWNERS file which can help set up default reviewers [1]). If desired, you can configure it to only make PRs for security updates

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 14:42, Jochen Wiedmann a écrit : > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > Isn't what > >https://spamassassin.apache.org/ > > is about? > > Not that I am uptodate, but at least historically it hasn't. It's > mostly about blocking spam. Related,

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Isn't what >https://spamassassin.apache.org/ > is about? Not that I am uptodate, but at least historically it hasn't. It's mostly about blocking spam. Related, but not necessarily reusable for the suggested purpose. Jochen --- Look,

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mer. 16 sept. 2020 à 14:29, Jochen Wiedmann a écrit : > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:37 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > As I've already stated in the previous "discussion" (from > > where I was left with the only solution of filtering out), a lot > > of the bot-generated messages is just

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:37 PM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > As I've already stated in the previous "discussion" (from > where I was left with the only solution of filtering out), a lot > of the bot-generated messages is just spam. > IMO, it's not needed for traceability, and nobody/norobot is >

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
2020-09-16 8:16 UTC+02:00, Jochen Wiedmann : > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Gary Gregory > wrote: > >> [...] >> I don't really care about >> the emails one way or another. Then why force them down onto people who did care? > > I don't need a compromise. Just wanted to trigger a discussion.

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > - Jochen: What you do with your inbox is your business ;-) What is > the happy compromise here? Do you want a separate email list? Zero > Dependabot emails anywhere? If you feel strongly about this, please > create a [POLL] thread for what

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 9:23 AM sebb wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 13:48, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > - Sebb: The sooner you know something is broken, the better. For > > That is what Gump is for. > > > example: The new release of commons-net breaks commons-vfs (see my > > other email

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread sebb
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 13:48, Gary Gregory wrote: > > - Sebb: The sooner you know something is broken, the better. For That is what Gump is for. > example: The new release of commons-net breaks commons-vfs (see my > other email thread). It is purely coincidental that this happened at > the time

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le lun. 14 sept. 2020 à 14:48, Gary Gregory a écrit : > > [...] > - Jochen: What you do with your inbox is your business ;-) What is > the happy compromise here? Do you want a separate email list? Zero > Dependabot emails anywhere? If you feel strongly about this, please > create a [POLL] thread

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread Gary Gregory
- Sebb: The sooner you know something is broken, the better. For example: The new release of commons-net breaks commons-vfs (see my other email thread). It is purely coincidental that this happened at the time I wanted to release VFS. Still, now I don't really want to push through a VFS release

Re: No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread sebb
I agree. It would be more useful if there was a report that people could consult when preparing to release a new version. If someone is working on a component, then they may wish to update dependencies as part of that, but these mass updates distract from the day-to-day changes. What is the use

No more dependabot

2020-09-14 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
For the record: Mails from dependabot are now being deleted automatically from my inbox. I consider this to be a failed experiment, and would like us to terminate it. Jochen -- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em. -- (Terry Pratchett,