Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
I wish we could do something about the spam. I don't like playing whackamole.

Re: svn commit: r1133561 - /couchdb/trunk/src/couchdb/couch_replicator.erl

2011-06-13 Thread Filipe David Manana
Randall, I disagree with this change. While it's ok for local databases, it causes noise for remote databases, as the httpc pool is linked to the main replication gen_server and it starts receiving EXIT messages from the later when it finishes normally (without errors). Look at the following

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: I wish we could do something about the spam. I don't like playing whackamole. We could delete the wiki and create real docs.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Paul Davis paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: I wish we could do something about the spam. I don't like playing whackamole. We could delete the wiki and create real docs. +1 .

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers? On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:41, Benoit Chesneau wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Paul Davis paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: I wish we

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
+1 to deleting the wiki and +1 to real docs. B. On 13 June 2011 13:49, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers? On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:41, Benoit Chesneau wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Paul Davis

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers? We could have edit from users too or just mails on non wiki systems. For example on gunicorn, The users open a ticket with a correction. Or

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:41, Benoit Chesneau wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:34 AM,

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:55, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation Not sure how this is relevant. If we

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Dionne
On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Noah Slater wrote: On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:55, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers?

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Robert Dionne dio...@dionne-associates.com wrote: On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Noah Slater wrote: On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:55, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:55, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: What percentage of useful wiki edits were made by committers vs non-committers?

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:31, Paul Davis paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com wrote: The mode of contribution changes. There is nothing that will suddenly prevent people from contributing. Its just that making a contribution becomes a JIRA issue instead of a wiki update. Under that light your question

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Clare Walsh
How many people didn't edit the wiki because it's a scary prospect to edit the only form of documentation that there seems to be? +1 to pinky fingers and monocles Thanks Clare On 13/06/11 15:15, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:31, Paul Davispaul.joseph.da...@gmail.com

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Nolan
Any documentation is good. What is this 'spam'? Haven't personally encountered anything on the wiki that would be 'considered' spam (perhaps not stumbled upon that portion?) But it's inevitable that the wiki will be attacked by unscrupulous people and as such, the wiki should prepare for this.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
It's not the wiki per se that bothers me, it's that it's the primary, often only, source of documentation. I propose that future releases of CouchDB include at least a full description of all public API's. Improvements above that base level would be a manual and/or simple tutorials. This

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Robert Newson robert.new...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the wiki per se that bothers me, it's that it's the primary, often only, source of documentation. I propose that future releases of CouchDB include at least a full description of all public API's.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:16, Peter Nolan wrote: What is this 'spam'? Haven't personally encountered anything on the wiki that would be 'considered' spam (perhaps not stumbled upon that portion?) Because we nuke it as it arrives. That's what prompted my original email. But it's inevitable

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 Jun 2011, at 19:08, Paul Davis wrote: You had me until you said release requirement. I would upgrade that to commit requirement if we're seriously about having such documentation. If we don't force people to make sure docs reflect changes at commit time then its probably going to be a

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Dionne
++1 On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Robert Newson wrote: It's not the wiki per se that bothers me, it's that it's the primary, often only, source of documentation. I propose that future releases of CouchDB include at least a full description of all public API's. Improvements above that

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Dionne
++1++ On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Robert Newson robert.new...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the wiki per se that bothers me, it's that it's the primary, often only, source of documentation. I propose that future releases of CouchDB include

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
+1 for commit requirement in addition to being a release requirement. At the very least, we get the docs fixed during the release process, but it ought to be done with the commit itself. In practice, we'll forget sometimes, and then be reminded by others on the team. B. On 13 June 2011 19:17,

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Nolan
Didn't couch/couchone/couchbase/whateveritscalledthisweek hire a writer? If you need a writer for documentation I'm more than willing to contribute. Eye dun rite gud.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Robert Newson robert.new...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for commit requirement in addition to being a release requirement. At the very least, we get the docs fixed during the release process, but it ought to be done with the commit itself. In practice, we'll forget

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
Also we should jab them with forks. On 13 June 2011 19:28, Paul Davis paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Robert Newson robert.new...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for commit requirement in addition to being a release requirement. At the very least, we get the docs

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
Yes, Peter, there is better documentation available for couchdb outside of our the projects official site. That's part of the problem we're addressing. The best place for couchdb documentation should be couchdb.apache.org, like it is for most other Apache projects. B. On 13 June 2011 19:30,

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Nolan
It doesn't matter where the 'centralized' information is located, it just needs to be centralized. There are a bunch of great little bits of information scattered throughout the internet, from blogs, to stackoverflow etc. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to create plugins for firefox? If one

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Newson
I'd argue that it matters a great deal. Our project should include good documentation. B. On 13 June 2011 19:46, Peter Nolan peterwno...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter where the 'centralized' information is located, it just needs to be centralized. There are a bunch of great little bits

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Trivial Update of CouchDB_in_the_wild by wentforgold

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Nolan
The point that was trying to be made was that a database system that allows such an extreme degree of decentralization (with replication and whatnot) is that information is incredibly decentralized. Having a location that contains all necessary documentation is incredibly important.

[jira] [Updated] (COUCHDB-994) Crash after compacting large views

2011-06-13 Thread JIRA
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-994?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Stefan Kögl updated COUCHDB-994: Attachment: 2011-06-13-couchdb.log I've applied the patch from

Re: make error with latest trunk (ICU related autotools config)

2011-06-13 Thread Randall Leeds
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 06:27, Filipe David Manana fdman...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Randall Leeds randall.le...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like /usr/local/include and /usr/include are absent from the new stuff. Can you confirm that those headers are in one of those

Re: make error with latest trunk (ICU related autotools config)

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Randall Leeds randall.le...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like /usr/local/include and /usr/include are absent from the new stuff. Can you confirm that those headers are in one of those places? I bet it's a difference in default search paths, else I can't explain why

Commits to 1.1.x not in 1.0.x

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Davis
I was just going through what we back ported to 1.1.x to make sure that all the relevant commits are also on 1.0.x before rolling a release. There are a few that are mostly trivial but I've come across two that I'm a bit stumped on. The first is this one: *

Re: make error with latest trunk (ICU related autotools config)

2011-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 Jun 2011, at 22:57, Paul Davis wrote: Next time I make big autotools changes ill solicit more feedback on the branch before I put it on trunk. I would actually argue that you shouldn't bother. The build system is always a little peculiar because no one has access to the large number

[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-431) Support cross domain XMLHttpRequest (XHR) calls by implementing Access Control spec

2011-06-13 Thread Jason Smith (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-431?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13048969#comment-13048969 ] Jason Smith commented on COUCHDB-431: - I agree, Jacques. CORS will be the microwave

[jira] [Commented] (COUCHDB-431) Support cross domain XMLHttpRequest (XHR) calls by implementing Access Control spec

2011-06-13 Thread Benjamin Eidelman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-431?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13048972#comment-13048972 ] Benjamin Eidelman commented on COUCHDB-431: --- I'm writing a small js lib that