[documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2010-02-19 Thread Jean Weber
Mariano, I'll reply in more detail re licensing and formatting when I get home from vacation on March 1. Meanwhile I'm glad to see others stepping up to help with editing. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid Level Base Tutorial

2008-08-18 Thread William Marchant
Frank et al, Perhaps I yelled too soon! I have found an .odt file OpenOffice.org Style Guide for US Documentation. This looks to be most of what I need. There is a sample Title Page included, and good advice for other things. I can get started with it, unless there is something else I

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-05 Thread Frank Peters
reason. Mariano. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@documentation.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:08 -0300 Frank, I have not been active for a while (several years I guess), but I

[documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-05 Thread Mariano Casanova
Frank: Any Base experts that can help me finish part III? Mariano. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-05 Thread William Marchant
Frank and Mariano, I have the .odt downloads. I will get to work. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-05 Thread Frank Peters
Mariano Casanova wrote: Any Base experts that can help me finish part III? Do you mean Base or Basic? You mentioned you'd need some Basic experience. Frank -- Frank Peters Documentation Project Co-Lead The OOo Documentation Project: SIGN UP - PARTICIPATE - CONTRIBUTE IT'S FREE! NO

[documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-04 Thread Mariano Casanova
Frank: At this moment I am focusing on part III (and final) of the Mid Level Base Tutorial. Content of Parts I and II is basically completed and now requires prof reading and maybe layout design. Part III covers the specifics of coding with base the features discussed in parts I and II. It

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-08-04 Thread William Marchant
Frank, I have not been active for a while (several years I guess), but I still read the documentation mail. Mariano has a project which I think I am fitted to help with. I have downloaded all three parts of the Base tutorial. A cursory look at Part I shows me a number of places where

[documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-07-28 Thread Mariano Casanova
Frank: Thanks for your guidance. I have uploaded the three parts for the tutorial as promised. Parts I and II could benefit from a kind reader that spots technical errors or grammatical sins. I am still working on part II and, clearly, on part III. Part II requires that I include the reports

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-07-25 Thread Frank Peters
Mariano Casanova wrote: Frank: ---Frank Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This has been a fun project and I have learned a lot. The goal has been to enable non-initiated users to build fairly complex databases with Base. I feel that we are very close to that objective. Any help in this last

[documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial

2008-07-25 Thread Mariano Casanova
Frank: I will convert the Tutorial to PDF and upload the files to the site you pointed. I will create a folder inside the Base folder with the three parts of the tutorial instead of one long file given that they are in different stages of completion at this moment. I do not see an up-load or

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2008-04-01 Thread Frank Peters
Mariano Casanova wrote: Just a short note to let you know that the work on the mid level Base tutorial is advancing, even if we are under the radar sometimes. There is a lot of information to digest, process, select and organize in educational terms. Drew Jensen has been invaluable help.

[documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2008-01-29 Thread Mariano Casanova
Hi Drew, nice to hear from you. I am very excited about ending this job and being able to coordinate with you. Please let me know if you still have the forms and reports for the example or if you need them again. I think that they pretty much help delineated the end result desired. I will be

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2008-01-29 Thread Drew Jensen
Mariano Casanova wrote: Hi Drew, nice to hear from you. I am very excited about ending this job and being able to coordinate with you. Please let me know if you still have the forms and reports for the example or if you need them again. I think that they pretty much help delineated the end

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2008-01-28 Thread Mariano Casanova
Hello Frank, I have not received response from Drew, either to my open letter on Jan 9th nor to mail sent to a personal account. Do you know if he is still participating or maybe on vacation? At this moment the tutorial aims to explain how to actually implement with BASE the options explored

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level Base tutorial

2007-11-20 Thread Mariano Casanova
Hi Drew! I am happy to see that you are ready to continue with this project. We certainly didn't make it for the Nov. 15 date. Well, we do what we can. The last part of the tutorial has to do with explaining how to code the design that was developed in the previous parts of the tutorial. I am

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level Base Tutorial -- licensing question

2007-10-12 Thread Frank Peters
Hi Jean, Many authors want the protection and control of the PDL for their work; I have no argument with anyone who does. However, the PDL has some requirements that many of us think are a major nuisance for user documentation, especially items that are updated frequently to reflect changes

[documentation-dev] Mid-level Base Tutorial -- licensing question

2007-10-11 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Mariano, Regarding the tutorial you are writing, do you have a preference on the license under which it will be released? (If you have already stated a preference, I apologise for missing that note.) The OOoAuthors group uses the Creative Commons Attribution License for its user guides, but

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Joe Smith wrote: Are there any plans to include a section comparing, in practical terms, which database type to choose for some typical projects? [...] This is a critical choice that the current UI gives almost no help with. It then falls to written documentation to explain the concepts and

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-27 Thread Joe Smith
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Joe Smith wrote: Are there any plans to include a section comparing, in practical terms, which database type to choose for some typical projects? [...] This is a critical choice that the current UI gives almost no help with. It then falls to written documentation to

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-26 Thread mcasanova
Frank has set up a OOo Docs Wiki where I intend to publish more polished work. In the meantime I will accept Andrew's offer and will ask him for details once I am ready to submit any material. Thank you all for your help and interest in this work! Andrew, I would like some help undewrstanding

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
Andrew Jensen wrote: ... Finally, there should be some mention of the fact that Base is not actually married to the embedded HSQLdb engine at all. The fact that it ships with this is more a matter of convenience, the design of the module is such that additional database engines could be

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-26 Thread Andrew Jensen
LOL - Joe in the software development world we would call that feature creep! On 9/26/07, Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Jensen wrote: ... Finally, there should be some mention of the fact that Base is not actually married to the embedded HSQLdb engine at all. The fact that

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
Andrew Jensen wrote: LOL - Joe in the software development world we would call that feature creep! Ouch. Well at least it was good for a chuckle. Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Frank Peters
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I imagine that, as the writing progresses, it should be posted here. I also imagine that any questions I could have should also be posted here. If this is not the proper channel, please re-direct me. Please don't post drafts or diagrams to the list; attachments are a

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread mcasanova
I created a wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Tutorials/Base_(Mariano) Feel free to add content. Frank Thanks Frank! I will be adding drafts here as the writing progresses. I will also include links to the figures that I could need. I understand

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Andrew Jensen
Hi, For the target reader you have in mind the best answer is no. On 9/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Tutorials/Base_(Mariano) Feel free to add content. Frank Thanks Frank!

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Andrew Jensen
Oh darn, that is too brief an answer to that question. The engine supports it, when used as an embedded engine in a Base file however it is not directly supported. Using code to wrap around your database solution one can take advantage of it again, but given this it most likely would be more of

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Frank Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be adding drafts here as the writing progresses. I will also include links to the figures that I could need. I understand that I must harbor them elsewhere. You could upload them to the wiki, but that can be a bit cumbersome. Does anyone know if we could use

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Andrew Jensen
If not, or maybe as an early alternative. I could set aside a slice on my ftp server and five Mariano an access account. Then link to these for the pages until the final files are ready to be moved to the wiki. On 9/25/07, Frank Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Putting them on the OOoAuthors website is another possibility. Whatever you guys choose, I think it should be somewhere that other people (such as me) can get to the figures too. DocsFiles OOoAuthors both fulfill that request; an FTP server that allows others (without accounts) to view the

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Andrew Jensen
yes, my server dishes up lots stuff to folks on the the forum, the wiki and as direct download via httpd addresses, the access I meant was for write / edit privileges. The other thing you are right about, and is a pleasure to see - is that this is a case of maybe too many options and not enough..

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-25 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Thanks, Drew. I thought that's what you meant, so thanks for confirming. Sounds ro me like your server is a good place for storing images for the working drafts of this document, since you and Mariano will be the main people working on it. --Jean Andrew Jensen wrote: yes, my server dishes

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-21 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Mariano wrote: I imagine that, as the writing progresses, it should be posted here. I also imagine that any questions I could have should also be posted here. If this is not the proper channel, please re-direct me. Please don't post drafts or diagrams to the list; attachments are a problem

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-21 Thread Joe Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tutorial is aimed to persons that have little or no knowledge in database design and that need to develop a functional application of mid-level complexity. This application would stand alone in their computers (as opposed to becoming a front end for a MySQL

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-21 Thread Andrew Jensen
Hi Jean, Marano, et al Mariano is the author I am just a helper, so it is his decision on how he want to work, IssueZilla or wiki or both. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-21 Thread J David Eisenberg
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Joe Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tutorial is aimed to persons that have little or no knowledge in database design and that need to develop a functional application of mid-level complexity. This application would stand alone in their computers (as opposed

[documentation-dev] Mid-level base tutorial

2007-09-19 Thread mcasanova
I would first like to thank Frank Petters, Scott Carr, Jean Weber and Andrew Jensen for a warm reception and guiding me to this mailing list. My name is Mariano Casanova and I would like to help in the development of a mid-level tutorial for Base. I have drafted a proposal centered on the