Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Tim Williams wrote: I personally like a stable trunk -- builds and runs without hoop-jumping. I think it is critical to keep the hoops required to an absolute minimum for two simple reasons: - even well documented hoops take time each time I set up a new instance of Forrest (ok, this

Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: I hadn't thought of that, but it triggered another requirement in my mind, which happens to provide a solution. I might add the need for a simple minimum seed for people who want to start a fresh site w/o having to move all our demo junk out of it first AND perhaps some

Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: Personally, I think the current state of views is good enough for Trunk (if we address the fresh-site issue). I've started to use it for a new project, that's what I usually use as my yardstick. Lets see what others say. Playing with the default implementation it looks

Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: Why do I want to automate it? Because I'd like (meaning it is my itch) to have the build target site do things like ask the user for the project name and other config values. Thus the various config files that the user needs to edit to get started are already customised

[jira] Created: (FOR-555) xml comments from html sources are no longer generated or are stripped

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
xml comments from html sources are no longer generated or are stripped -- Key: FOR-555 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-555 Project: Forrest Type: Bug Components: Core operations

Re: various seed sites (Was: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk)

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I hadn't thought of that, but it triggered another requirement in my mind, which happens to provide a solution. I might add the need for a simple minimum seed for people who want to start a fresh site w/o having to move all

Default skin in views (Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk)

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Personally, I think the current state of views is good enough for Trunk (if we address the fresh-site issue). I've started to use it for a new project, that's what I usually use as my yardstick. Lets see what others say. Playing with the default

Re: Using local plugins (Re: [VOTE] merge locationmap branch with trunk)

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Furthermore, in my work on versioned plugins for the 0.7 release I took us nearly all the way to having plugins used from the plugins directory if they are present there. That would remove the need for a download or a local-deploy for people using

Re: Project participation and hackability

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Tim Williams wrote: Since this is about project process, hopefully by my opinions I'm not violating some unspoken pmc-only line here... We are a very open community. We do not discuss anything like this in private. The only stuff that goes on in private is votes for new committers and

Re: Project participation and hackability

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Tim Williams wrote: This, however, is quite a committment. While I'm for a usable trunk, extending that though to a releasable trunk is more committment than I'd want. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but claiming that at any given moment the trunk is [apache]

Re: Project participation and hackability

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... Once we have an RC built we only allow bug fixes in trunk, new features are developer in a branch. I wouldn't be that strong. If I'm adding a new feature to the trunk, but this does not interfere with prior behaviour, there are no

[jira] Closed: (FOR-454) add content about major changes for this release

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-454?page=all ] Ross Gardler closed FOR-454: Resolution: Fixed add content about major changes for this release Key: FOR-454 URL:

Re: Welcome Anil Ramnanan - Google Summer of Code Awardee

2005-06-27 Thread Anil Ramnanan
Ross Gardler wrote: So, I would like to welcome Anil Ramnanan to the Apache Forrest community. Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to working with Forrest and the Forrest community. Just be warned that I will be asking many questions. :) Regards, Anil Ramnanan

[jira] Commented: (FOR-554) Error for missing documents is confusing

2005-06-27 Thread Tim Williams (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-554?page=comments#action_12314534 ] Tim Williams commented on FOR-554: -- With further testing it seems that this patch causes a new problem. It's going to take me some time to figure this one out I think. It

[jira] Commented: (FOR-554) Error for missing documents is confusing

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-554?page=comments#action_12314536 ] Ross Gardler commented on FOR-554: -- I wonder if Cocoons error handlers can help in a more controllable way: http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/errorhandling.html

Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Anil Ramnanan
Here are the current deliverables that I intend to produce for the Summer of code project and the order in which I intend to do them. I was wondering if there were any comments from the community on them. The entire project proposal with details on each of the deliverables was posted in Ross's

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Anil Ramnanan wrote: Here are the current deliverables that I intend to produce for the Summer of code project and the order in which I intend to do them. I was wondering if there were any comments from the community on them. The entire project proposal with details on each of the deliverables

Merging views with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs I am away from home and just had a glance over the latest discussion about the merge. Instead of answering all the threads I just want to state what I am thinking about merging views. 1) Views are and will be in the whiteboard! That means we can merge them without a problem into what

Re: logic filters in views (was Re: Roadmap)

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 20:54 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Tim Williams wrote: On 6/23/05, Diwaker Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that the release is just around the corner (since the website is already updated, I guess we're just waiting for the announcement,

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Just some quick comments: On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 10:08 -0400, Anil Ramnanan wrote: Here are the current deliverables that I intend to produce for the Summer of code project and the order in which I intend to do them. I was wondering if there were any comments from the community on them. The

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Anil Ramnanan
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Do you want to create a wizard for views? Maybe another for contracts? I would be more then happy to give you a hand on that. That is my intention. I had originally planned a wizard for the skins but Ross suggested that I focus on views instead. Regards, Anil

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Anil Ramnanan wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Do you want to create a wizard for views? Maybe another for contracts? I would be more then happy to give you a hand on that. That is my intention. I had originally planned a wizard for the skins but Ross suggested that I focus on views

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 11:22 -0400, Anil Ramnanan wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Do you want to create a wizard for views? Maybe another for contracts? I would be more then happy to give you a hand on that. That is my intention. I had originally planned a wizard for the skins but

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Just some quick comments: On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 10:08 -0400, Anil Ramnanan wrote: Here are the current deliverables that I intend to produce for the Summer of code project and the order in which I intend to do them. I was wondering if there were any comments from the

[jira] Created: (FOR-557) Update Site for Forrest Plugin

2005-06-27 Thread Anil Ramnanan (JIRA)
Update Site for Forrest Plugin -- Key: FOR-557 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-557 Project: Forrest Type: New Feature Components: Tool: Eclipse config Versions: 0.8-dev Reporter: Anil Ramnanan An Update

Re: logic filters in views (was Re: Roadmap)

2005-06-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 16:00 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Seriously, coming back to metadata: I recommend to split the forrest:properties from the view. Ross was never really comfortable with their existence in the view and I agreed saying they are right now a

Properties for views (Re: logic filters in views)

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 16:00 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... The *.prop would contain the view specific extra content dispatcher (nuggets) that are now stored in the view. Sorry, I'm not familiar enough with views terminology yet. Can you

Re: Properties for views (Re: logic filters in views)

2005-06-27 Thread Diwaker Gupta
Without per directory we need three files for every page - bad. I agree. If Forrest requires me to create 3 files for each page, I'm going to be concerned. With per directory config we need three files for each directory - good. And of course, Forrest should always fall back to a default

Re: [jira] Updated: (FOR-557) Update Site for Forrest Plugin

2005-06-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Anil Ramnanan (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-557?page=all ] Anil Ramnanan updated FOR-557: -- Attachment: forrestplugin.updatesite.zip Expand this file to the area on the web server where you want to create an update site for the

[jira] Updated: (FOR-558) skin update

2005-06-27 Thread Diwaker Gupta (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-558?page=all ] Diwaker Gupta updated FOR-558: -- Attachment: default.fv skin update --- Key: FOR-558 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-558 Project: Forrest

[jira] Updated: (FOR-559) FAQ+TOC problem: force-toc option

2005-06-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-559?page=all ] Jeremias Maerki updated FOR-559: Attachment: forrest-force-toc.diff The proposed patch. FAQ+TOC problem: force-toc option - Key: FOR-559

[jira] Updated: (FOR-557) Update Site for Forrest Plugin

2005-06-27 Thread Anil Ramnanan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-557?page=all ] Anil Ramnanan updated FOR-557: -- Attachment: org.apache.forrest.eclipse.updateSite.zip org.apache.forrest.eclipse.feature.zip Import both org.apache.forrest.eclipse.feature and

[jira] Commented: (FOR-554) Error for missing documents is confusing

2005-06-27 Thread Tim Williams (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-554?page=comments#action_12314560 ] Tim Williams commented on FOR-554: -- Only as a workaround, right? Or do you mean something else? The problem has nothing (or at least very little) to do with locationmaps. It

Re: Welcome Anil Ramnanan - Google Summer of Code Awardee

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley
Anil Ramnanan wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: So, I would like to welcome Anil Ramnanan to the Apache Forrest community. Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to working with Forrest and the Forrest community. Just be warned that I will be asking many questions. :) That is exactly

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: [mentor hat on] Anil, this is a perfect example of why we must conduct all design discussion on list rather than via private email. I cannot possibly remember everything that is going on with Forrest. With just a few words Thortsen could have saved us lots of wasted

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Anil Ramnanan wrote: July 6 - Editors of Site, Tabs, Locationmap and Skinconf Hmm, actually I think the skinconf need discussion before you make a wizard. IMO we need to use the proposed one from Nicola. I will prepare a new thread for this. Yes, my alarm bells

Re: Merging views with trunk

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello devs I am away from home and just had a glance over the latest discussion about the merge. Instead of answering all the threads I just want to state what I am thinking about merging views. 1) Views are and will be in the whiteboard! That means we can merge

Re: Requesting Comments on Eclipse Plugin Deliverables

2005-06-27 Thread Tim Williams
On 6/27/05, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Anil Ramnanan wrote: July 6 - Editors of Site, Tabs, Locationmap and Skinconf Hmm, actually I think the skinconf need discussion before you make a wizard. IMO we need to use the proposed one from Nicola. I

[jira] Closed: (FOR-391) website docs/site split

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-391?page=all ] David Crossley closed FOR-391: -- Fix Version: 0.8-dev Resolution: Fixed I have done some tweaks to the .htaccess. Nobody is reporting any problems with the new website, so closing this

[jira] Closed: (FOR-542) 'build test' should run validate-config target

2005-06-27 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-542?page=all ] David Crossley closed FOR-542: -- Resolution: Fixed Done. 'build test' should run validate-config target Key: FOR-542 URL: