Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Ben Reser
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: The modules in your examples deliberately use the authz mechanism to generate different output based on the results. But what is doing it in the case I describe -- where the generated content is exactly the same?

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Am Freitag, 2. August 2013, 23:05:09 schrieb Ben Reser: If all of your authz/authn providers are using the CONF flag and you're getting duplicated authz processing for subrequests that have the same conf applied to them then it's possible there's a bug here. I haven't ever specifically looked

Re: mod_proxy, oooled backend connections and the keep-alive race condition

2013-08-03 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Am Freitag, 2. August 2013, 11:21:56 schrieb Eric Covener: I think this does not work for GET requests or request without a request body. Just re-read spec, you are right -- we are abusing this in a module as a sort of extended handshake even w/ no body, but not against heterogenous

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Mikhail T.
03.08.2013 02:05, Ben Reser wrote: You don't seriously expect the auth system to know all of those intricacies? Let me take a step back here. What I found about my particular situation is -- using your own term -- absurd: 1. The current behavior is not documented. 2. The current behavior is

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Eric Covener
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: 03.08.2013 02:05, Ben Reser wrote: You don't seriously expect the auth system to know all of those intricacies? Let me take a step back here. What I found about my particular situation is -- using your own term --

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Mikhail T.
03.08.2013 14:14, Eric Covener wrote: I don't agree re: necessity. As Ben said, httpd only knows that /tiv (where you tried to punch a hole) and the target of your Action directive have different per-directory configurations, so authorization is checked on the subrequest. It's erring on the

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Ben Reser
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: Point is, it is erring. I asked Ben for possible use-cases and his two examples were modules, which use the authorization rules to generate different content depending on the result. Rather than to decide, whether to

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Eric Covener
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: 03.08.2013 14:14, Eric Covener wrote: I don't agree re: necessity. As Ben said, httpd only knows that /tiv (where you tried to punch a hole) and the target of your Action directive have different per-directory

Re: Resolved (sort of): Struggling with AuthMerging

2013-08-03 Thread Mikhail T.
03.08.2013 15:19, Eric Covener ???(??): I didn't interpret his response that way. Those are modules that will create subrequests/internal redirects to new URIs that could have separate authz applied to them from the original URI -- you can't assume the server is any less interested in