simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Joshua Slive
I'm pretty-much done shredding the default config and I will give a couple days for review before I merge it. Feel free to correct any problems you see. Things that I know are missing: - updates to docs: new-features, upgrading, apachectl (remove startssl), CHANGES - changes to windows

Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Paul Querna
I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes: mod_version: all - yes mod_asis: yes - no mod_imap: most - no

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Paul Querna wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes: mod_version: all - yes mod_asis: yes - no

RE: simple-conf branch

2005-04-06 Thread Phil Lello
As part of this, it could be useful to generate a RunningConfig.cnf file as part httpd startup, which would be a merged config file with comments indicating which file set the option (and possibly which options have taken defaults). This would hopefully reduce problems with conflicting

Re: simple-conf branch

2005-04-06 Thread Rici Lake
On 6-Apr-05, at 11:43 AM, Phil Lello wrote: As part of this, it could be useful to generate a RunningConfig.cnf file as part httpd startup, which would be a merged config file with comments indicating which file set the option (and possibly which options have taken defaults). You can get easily

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:42 AM -0400 Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty-much done shredding the default config and I will give a couple days for review before I merge it. Feel free to correct any problems you see. +1 to merge back to trunk. (14k vs. 38k. Yay!) One last

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:29 PM -0400 Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about mod_ssl being on in most? In the past, we've said that SSL must be explicit because of the crypto legal restrictions. -- justin

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:15 AM -0700 Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of

Re: svn commit: r158798 - in httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES server/protocol.c

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:36 PM + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another @@ -1008,7 +1023,15 @@ rnew-status = HTTP_OK; -rnew-headers_in = r-headers_in; +/* did the original request have a body? (e.g. POST w/SSI tags) + * if so, make sure the subrequest doesn't

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Nick Kew
Rich Bowen wrote: Paul Querna wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes: mod_version: all - yes

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: mod_asis: yes - no mod_imap: most - no I would prefer we keep mod_imap as most. Probably the same for mod_asis. These were default modules in 2.0 - therefore, I think disabling them unless explicit in 2.2 could be worrisome. Serously? Have you ever used

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:30 PM -0400 Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever used mod_imap? Or, at least, since 1996? I have a hard Yes. Yes. I do wish it were renamed to mod_imagemap though! mod_imap is a poor name. Note that we could always re-introduce the imagemap CGI

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:15 AM 4/6/2005, you wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes: mod_version: all - yes mod_asis:

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Mads Toftum
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 09:15:38AM -0700, Paul Querna wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes:

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:41 PM 4/6/2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:30 PM -0400 Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do wish it were renamed to mod_imagemap though! mod_imap is a poor name. ++1 - 8.3 filenames are so 1980 :) We are changing a number of other module names, this

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:49 PM -0500 William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason not to drop them is that when the gods of httpd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decide to change their minds about the 'default' choice, it doesn't harm existing installations which were explicitly

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread André Malo
* Paul Querna wrote: I changed mod_imap this morning from 'yes' to 'most', because I was tired of disabling it every time I do a new install. I think we should reconsider what modules are enabled by default. Here is my list of suggested changes: mod_version: all - yes +1. mod_asis: yes

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread André Malo
* William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 01:41 PM 4/6/2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:30 PM -0400 Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do wish it were renamed to mod_imagemap though! mod_imap is a poor name. ++1 - 8.3 filenames are so 1980 :) We are changing

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Rici Lake
On 6-Apr-05, at 12:56 PM, Mads Toftum wrote: mod_asis: yes - no I'd prefer - most as it is rarely used but not totally useless. Others mentioned mod_ssl which I think is too much trouble to be worth enabling other than when requested explicitly - there's the whole crypto regs issue and it does

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Joshua Slive wrote: I think this config is far clearer and more manageable for a newcomer, and probably also for an experienced httpd-user. It is also more secure I know this is propably too controversial; but one thing I'd love to have in there is somethign like

Re: Default Modules

2005-04-06 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I do wish it were renamed to mod_imagemap though! mod_imap is a poor name. +1 - lets leave the 80ties behind us :-) Dw.

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Joshua Slive
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Joshua Slive wrote: I think this config is far clearer and more manageable for a newcomer, and probably also for an experienced httpd-user. It is also more secure I know this is propably too controversial; but one thing I'd love to have in there

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Joshua Slive
Brad Nicholes wrote: I'm still not a big fan of removing the MPM settings from the httpd.conf file. All of the other extra .conf files contain supplemental configuration but the MPM configuration seems to be more along the lines of a ServerRoot or Listen. Despite the fact that these are

Re: simple-conf ready for merge

2005-04-06 Thread Brad Nicholes
I see your rational, but I am looking at it from the point of view that the user knows that one of the first things that they need to do is tweak the MPM to fit their load/resource requirements. This is more a matter of where it they go? I could have sworn they were right here a minute ago.

Re: svn commit: r160313 - httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/STATUS

2005-04-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:54 PM -0500 William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:17 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote: Author: jerenkrantz Remove merged backport, block one, vote for one. @@ -382,6 +381,7 @@ non experimental status. +1: bnicholes, wrowe +0: minfrin (wait

Renaming mod_imap - mod_imagemap

2005-04-06 Thread Paul Querna
From the 'Default Modules' thread for renaming mod_imap: +1 Dirk, nd, justin. If there are no objections I will rename mod_imap to mod_imagemap and all the documentation later tonight. -Paul

Re: svn commit: r158798 - in httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES server/protocol.c

2005-04-06 Thread Greg Ames
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: As I just noted in STATUS for 2.0, read_length isn't a sufficient check. It'd only be set if the client has *already* read the body *and* they used the 1.3.x mechanisms for reading the request body. both true in 100% of the cases I've seen in the wild. ok, I'll admit it

[PATCH 9298][BUG 18757] Patch doesn't fix bug!

2005-04-06 Thread Phil Lello
Title: Message Patch 9298 for bug 18757 doesn't fix bug 18757 (No Content-Length for proxied HEAD requests)... can this patch be removed from Bugzilla?

Re: Renaming mod_imap - mod_imagemap

2005-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Paul Querna wrote: From the 'Default Modules' thread for renaming mod_imap: +1 Dirk, nd, justin. If there are no objections I will rename mod_imap to mod_imagemap and all the documentation later tonight. +1

Re: Renaming mod_imap - mod_imagemap

2005-04-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
Paul Querna wrote: From the 'Default Modules' thread for renaming mod_imap: +1 Dirk, nd, justin. If there are no objections I will rename mod_imap to mod_imagemap and all the documentation later tonight. +1

[STATUS] (httpd-2.0) Wed Apr 6 23:45:34 2005

2005-04-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 2.0 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-04-06 13:17:53 -0400 (Wed, 06 Apr 2005) $] The current version of this file can be found at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/STATUS Release history: 2.0.54 :

[STATUS] (httpd-2.1) Wed Apr 6 23:45:44 2005

2005-04-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 2.1 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-03-30 18:16:16 -0500 (Wed, 30 Mar 2005) $] The current version of this file can be found at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS Release history: [NOTE that only

httpd-trunk configure dying on OSX: error: mod_so has been requested but cannot be built on your system

2005-04-06 Thread OpenMacNews
ok, so let's try this here ... i'm *not* certain this is a dev-list issue; pls let me know if it's not ... thx! richard hey richard, you should submit a bug or try the developers list for this hi all, i've just started playing with the latest dev trunk; i've had both earlier dev-revisions and