Re: PR #363

[Rich Bowen]

Well, it turns out that in order for this to actually work, we would need
to rename README to README.md, so I'm inclined to revert this change unless
someone thinks differently.

Rich

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 10:06  wrote:

> I've been poking at some of our open PRs looking for docs-only changes
> that we can possibly clean up.
>
> PR #363 - https://github.com/apache/httpd/pull/363 - converts README
> from plaintext to markdown, and makes no other changes. This makes it
> prettier on GitHub.
>
> I almost just CTR'ed it, but it occurred to me that someone might find
> this objectionable, so I thought I'd ask first.
>

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A Message from the Board to PMC members

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Project Management Committee (PMC) members,

The Board wants to take just a moment of your time to communicate a few
things that seem to have been forgotten by a number of PMC members,
across the Foundation, over the past few years.  Please note that this
is being sent to all projects - yours has not been singled out.

The Project Management Committee (PMC) as a whole[1] is tasked with the
oversight, health, and sustainability of the project. The PMC members
are responsible collectively, and individually, for ensuring that the
project operates in a way that is in line with ASF philosophy, and in a
way that serves the developers and users of the project.

The PMC Chair is not the project leader, in any sense. It is the person
who files board reports and makes sure they are delivered on time. It
is the secretary for the project, and the project’s  ambassador to the
Board of Directors. The VP title is given as an artifact of US
corporate law, and not because the PMC Chair has any special powers. If
you are treating your PMC Chair as the project lead, or granting them
any other special powers or privileges, you need to be aware that
that’s not the intent of the Chair role. The Chair is a PMC member peer
with a few extra duties.

Every PMC member has an equal voice in deliberations. Each has one
vote. Each has veto power. Every vote weighs the same. It is not only
your right, but it is your obligation, to use that vote for the good of
the project and its users, not to appease the Chair, your employer, or
any other voice in the project. 

Every PMC member can, and should, nominate new committers, and new PMC
members. This is not the sole domain of the PMC Chair. This might be
your most important responsibility to the project, as succession
planning is the path to sustainability.

Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email to
your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to respond.
The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the project, not just
one member.

Every PMC member should be subscribed to the private@ mailing list. If
you are not, then you are neglecting your duty of oversight. If you no
longer wish to be responsible for oversight of the project, you should
resign your PMC seat, not merely drop off of the private@ list and
ignore it. You can determine which PMC members are not subscribed to
your private list by looking at your PMC roster at
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next to them are not subscribed to the list. We encourage you to take a
moment to contact them with this information.

Thank you for your attention to these matters, and thank you for
keeping our projects healthy.

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[1] https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members

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The Apache Software Foundation will be holding ApacheCon North America
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Call for Presentations is now open, and will close at 00:01 UTC on May
23rd, 2022.

We are accepting presentation proposals for any topic that is related
to the Apache mission of producing free software for the public good.
This includes, but is not limited to:

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You can submit your session proposals starting today at
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keynotes, real-world case studies, trainings, hackathons, community
events, and more.

The Apache Software Foundation will be holding ApacheCon North America
2022 at the New Orleans Sheration, October 3rd through 6th, 2022. The
Call for Presentations is now open, and will close at 00:01 UTC on May
23rd, 2022.

We are accepting presentation proposals for any topic that is related
to the Apache mission of producing free software for the public good.
This includes, but is not limited to:

Community
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You can submit your session proposals starting today at
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Call for Presentations now open, ApacheCon North America 2022

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Technology Today” across 300+ Apache projects and their diverse
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Apache projects and emerging innovations through hands-on sessions,
keynotes, real-world case studies, trainings, hackathons, community
events, and more.

The Apache Software Foundation will be holding ApacheCon North America
2022 at the New Orleans Sheration, October 3rd through 6th, 2022. The
Call for Presentations is now open, and will close at 00:01 UTC on May
23rd, 2022.

We are accepting presentation proposals for any topic that is related
to the Apache mission of producing free software for the public good.
This includes, but is not limited to:

Community
Big Data
Search
IoT
Cloud
Fintech
Pulsar
Tomcat

You can submit your session proposals starting today at
https://cfp.apachecon.com/

Rich Bowen, on behalf of the ApacheCon Planners
apachecon.com
@apachecon

Re: opinion poll, stale issues

[Rich Bowen]

On 2/23/22 04:12, William A Rowe Jr wrote:

That's not entirely fair...

We have done this periodically, by spamming the bugzilla entries with
"please review under a current version and report back."

Hearing no response after a month, it's trivial to close them for more
info needed. Many aren't applicable to the current revision.

The reporters who want to be heard will respond, and that will
percolate the interesting bugs from the configuration mistakes and
other common confusion points.


Most of our docs bug reporters never reengage with the issue. They find 
a problem, report it, and then go find solutions on Reddit or 
Stackoverflow or whatever, and ignore any further request for detail, 
because they've already solved *their* problem.


I'll try to do another run through of the open doc bugs in the next week 
or so, and close the ones that appear to be stale. Just haven't had time 
for the last few ... um ... years.



Few projects of this scope ever get to inbox 0 state, so a ping to
ensure it is a valid report and draw attention to the most significant
defects is appropriate, I and several others have done this exercise
many times, clearing as many as 1,000 issues or so over the course of
a month or two. But a completely automated process simply closing them
would be considered rude, unless the reporter themself can reopen them
(and the closure message should state that.)

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:13 AM Stefan Eissing  wrote:


Thanks all who participated. Almost all of you seem to be happy with the way 
things are. I rest my case. 

Kind Regards,
Stefan


Am 19.02.2022 um 23:59 schrieb Rich Bowen :

Speaking only for the docs bugs, I have recently looked through them, and while many of 
them are in the "older than a year" basket, almost all of them are still valid 
- just we haven't had time to address them yet. It would be a shame to lose this 
information, as it's what I pick away at when I have spare moments now and then.

--Rich

On 2/16/22 04:32, Stefan Eissing wrote:

How about we close stale issues on our bugzilla after a year without changes 
with
WONTFIX
We are sorry, but no one found the interest/time to work on this.
ideally as an automated job somewhere?
Kind Regards,
Stefan

Re: opinion poll, stale issues

[Rich Bowen]

Speaking only for the docs bugs, I have recently looked through them, 
and while many of them are in the "older than a year" basket, almost all 
of them are still valid - just we haven't had time to address them yet. 
It would be a shame to lose this information, as it's what I pick away 
at when I have spare moments now and then.


--Rich

On 2/16/22 04:32, Stefan Eissing wrote:

How about we close stale issues on our bugzilla after a year without changes 
with

WONTFIX
We are sorry, but no one found the interest/time to work on this.

ideally as an automated job somewhere?

Kind Regards,
Stefan

Re: svn commit: r1891407 - /httpd/site/trunk/content/docs-project/contribute.mdtext

[Rich Bowen]

On 7/9/21 4:10 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote:

I guess with the site now moved over to Pelican / github this would need to 
fixed here:
https://github.com/apache/httpd-site/blob/main/content/docs-project/contribute.md

See also:https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican.html



I see. I misunderstood. I thought that Github was just a mirror.

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https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/cfp.html

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https://apachecon.com/acasia2021/cfp.html and also closes on May 3rd.

ApacheCon is our main event, featuring content from any and all of our
projects, and is your best opportunity to get your project in front of
the largest audience of enthusiasts.

Please don't wait for the last minute. Get your talks in today!

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https://apachecon.com/acasia2021/cfp.html and also closes on May 3rd.

ApacheCon is our main event, featuring content from any and all of our
projects, and is your best opportunity to get your project in front of
the largest audience of enthusiasts.

Please don't wait for the last minute. Get your talks in today!

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https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/cfp.html

The CFP for ApacheCon Asia, focused on Asia/Pacific time zones, is at
https://apachecon.com/acasia2021/cfp.html and also closes on May 3rd.

ApacheCon is our main event, featuring content from any and all of our
projects, and is your best opportunity to get your project in front of
the largest audience of enthusiasts.

Please don't wait for the last minute. Get your talks in today!

--
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The Apache Software Foundation
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@apachecon

httpd @ ApacheCon

[Rich Bowen]

Hi, folks,

I don't know if Jim is on vacation, or otherwise offline, but he's not 
responding to my pings, so I was hoping someone else here could step up 
for something.


We have 8 submissions for a httpd track at ApacheCon. It would be cool 
to have someone to review these and select some or all of them to run. 
Some of them seem like clearly things we want. Others I am not familiar 
enough with the topic to say.


So, what I'm looking for is for someone to do the following:

* Review 8 httpd-themed talk proposals
* Identify which ones we should run, and in what order

While I would prefer someone who is on the PMC, this is not required. I 
would, however, request that you be a httpd committer to volunteer.


I estimate anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour of work, depending on how 
thorough you are. Timeline is *now*. We would really like to publish the 
schedule this week.


If you are willing, please contact me, and I'll get you the necessary 
access to documents and systems.


--
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Announcing ApacheCon @Home 2020

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Hi, Apache enthusiast!

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The ApacheCon Planners and the Apache Software Foundation are pleased to 
announce that ApacheCon @Home will be held online, September 29th 
through October 1st, 2020. We’ll be featuring content from dozens of our 
projects, as well as content about community, how Apache works, business 
models around Apache software, the legal aspects of open source, and 
many other topics.


Full details about the event, and registration, is available at 
https://apachecon.com/acah2020


Due to the confusion around how and where this event was going to be 
held, and in order to open up to presenters from around the world who 
may previously have been unable or unwilling to travel, we’ve reopened 
the Call For Presentations until July 13th. Submit your talks today at 
https://acna2020.jamhosted.net/


We hope to see you at the event!
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Announcing ApacheCon @Home 2020

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Hi, Apache enthusiast!

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The ApacheCon Planners and the Apache Software Foundation are pleased to 
announce that ApacheCon @Home will be held online, September 29th 
through October 1st, 2020. We’ll be featuring content from dozens of our 
projects, as well as content about community, how Apache works, business 
models around Apache software, the legal aspects of open source, and 
many other topics.


Full details about the event, and registration, is available at 
https://apachecon.com/acah2020


Due to the confusion around how and where this event was going to be 
held, and in order to open up to presenters from around the world who 
may previously have been unable or unwilling to travel, we’ve reopened 
the Call For Presentations until July 13th. Submit your talks today at 
https://acna2020.jamhosted.net/


We hope to see you at the event!
Rich Bowen, VP Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation

ApacheCon US 2020 track

[Rich Bowen]

A few months ago, a volunteer from httpd stepped up to be track chair 
for an httpd track at Apachecon New Orleans 2020 - 
https://www.apachecon.com/acna2020/


That volunteer has resigned, due to other obligations, and I'm wondering 
if anyone else is willing to step up to chair an httpd track at ApacheCon.


Track chair responsibilities are documented at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONFERENCES/Track+Chairs


Please let me know, and copy plann...@apachecon.com, if you're willing 
to take on this responsibility.


Thank you.

--
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http://rcbowen.com/
@rbowen

Call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 now open

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The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 is now open 
at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp


ApacheCon will be held at the Sheraton, New Orleans, September 28th 
through October 2nd, 2020.


As in past years, ApacheCon will feature tracks focusing on the various 
technologies within the Apache ecosystem, and so the call for 
presentations will ask you to select one of those tracks, or “General” 
if the content falls outside of one of our already-organized tracks. 
These tracks are:


Karaf
Internet of Things
Fineract
Community
Content Delivery
Solr/Lucene (Search)
Gobblin/Big Data Integration
Ignite
Observability
Cloudstack
Geospatial
Graph
Camel/Integration
Flagon
Tomcat
Cassandra
Groovy
Web/httpd
General/Other

The CFP will close Friday, May 1, 2020 8:00 AM (America/New_York time).

Submit early, submit often, at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp

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Call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 now open

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache enthusiast,

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The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 is now open 
at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp


ApacheCon will be held at the Sheraton, New Orleans, September 28th 
through October 2nd, 2020.


As in past years, ApacheCon will feature tracks focusing on the various 
technologies within the Apache ecosystem, and so the call for 
presentations will ask you to select one of those tracks, or “General” 
if the content falls outside of one of our already-organized tracks. 
These tracks are:


Karaf
Internet of Things
Fineract
Community
Content Delivery
Solr/Lucene (Search)
Gobblin/Big Data Integration
Ignite
Observability
Cloudstack
Geospatial
Graph
Camel/Integration
Flagon
Tomcat
Cassandra
Groovy
Web/httpd
General/Other

The CFP will close Friday, May 1, 2020 8:00 AM (America/New_York time).

Submit early, submit often, at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp

Rich, for the ApacheCon Planners

Call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 now open

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache enthusiast,

(You’re receiving this message because you are subscribed to one or more 
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The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America 2020 is now open 
at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp


ApacheCon will be held at the Sheraton, New Orleans, September 28th 
through October 2nd, 2020.


As in past years, ApacheCon will feature tracks focusing on the various 
technologies within the Apache ecosystem, and so the call for 
presentations will ask you to select one of those tracks, or “General” 
if the content falls outside of one of our already-organized tracks. 
These tracks are:


Karaf
Internet of Things
Fineract
Community
Content Delivery
Solr/Lucene (Search)
Gobblin/Big Data Integration
Ignite
Observability
Cloudstack
Geospatial
Graph
Camel/Integration
Flagon
Tomcat
Cassandra
Groovy
Web/httpd
General/Other

The CFP will close Friday, May 1, 2020 8:00 AM (America/New_York time).

Submit early, submit often, at https://apachecon.com/acna2020/cfp

Rich, for the ApacheCon Planners

Re: Time for httpd 2.6.x?

[Rich Bowen]

Disclaimer: I've been pretty much absentee for a while so take my opinions
with a grain of salt.

>From a PR perspective, 7 years is a heck of a long time and it would be
great to remind people that httpd is in fact an actively developed project
doing exciting and modern things.

mod_md all by itself justifies a big splash - most of the world appear to
be still completely unaware of it and while I know version numbers mean
more (and sometimes less) than "yay new thing" it gives us an opportunity
to make a bigger splash.

Apachecon 2020 will be our 25th birthday, as has been mentioned. Having a
New Shiny to talk about on such an important year would be awesome.

Shosholoza,
Rich


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 20:59 Luca Toscano  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> in trunk's STATUS there are a lot of suggestions about things to
> improve/change for 2.6.x. There have been discussions during the past
> couple of years about how/when/if to create a 2.6 release branch, but
> for a lot of reasons we didn't do any progress. Would it be something
> to consider for the next months?
>
> Luca
>

Re: ACNA20 and Apache https's 25th anniversary

[Rich Bowen]

I've added httpd to
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W8DEs0nr1SUTlyTo9dj6SG0u2tFSwvRhoDVb9vYb_r0/edit#gid=0
for a tentative one day. If you think we can fill more than one
room-day, please speak up.

I could presumably do a mod_rewrite talk, although I am sure I need to
bring my knowledge up to date a little. I'd love to see a bunch of
new/first-time speakers from the younger generation of httpd developers.

On 10/6/19 9:24 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Next year will be httpd's 25th anniversary. I think it would be great if the 
> web server PMC would commit to having a httpd track at ACNA20...
> 
> Anyone else interested? We'd need about 6-7 talks to fill the track.
> 

-- 
Rich Bowen
rbo...@rcbowen.com

Re: Migrate to git?

[Rich Bowen]

Fwiw, Apache Allura has this workflow for svn. And a bunch of other tooling
for github-like functionality around svn.



On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 08:59 Michal Karm  wrote:

> On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have
> seen an
> > > increase in contributions and contributors...
> > >
> > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/
> the
> > > foundation officially supporting Github, it seems like time to
> have a
> > > discussion about it, especially as we start thinking about the
> next 25
> > > years of this project :)
> >
> > Can we use Travis CI as well?  If so I am +1 on moving to github,
> being
> > able to easily configure a consistent CI across branches and PRs
> will be
> > a major improvement over the status quo.  (I have no idea how
> buildbot
> > works or how to improve it and it's unusuable before commits)
> >
> >
> > Travis CI is possible *today* ... since the svn commits are replicated
> over to
> > github, Travis can pick them up and run tests. Just file an INFRA ticket
> to
> > enable it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -g
> >
> Hi Greg,
>
> That does not cover Joe's note "...and PRs...". Basically having a
> transparent,
> dead simple set of gate smoke tests
> on a handful of major platforms and config flavours/layouts. Linux and
> Windows
> can be used in this capacity for free (as in free beer).
>
> It makes almost no sense unless all committers agree that all code commits
> pass
> through PR gate, i.e.
> no direct commits.
>
> Almost all concerns about git and its presumed complexity can be addressed
> by
> adhering
> to a fixed workflow. GitHub PR workflow is one of the options.
>
> Reading the email thread, I get the vibe that the community would have to
> put out the SVN vs. Git flame first though :)
>
> K.
>
> Michal Karm Babacek
>
> --
> Sent from my Hosaka Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7
>
>
>

Re: Migrate to git?

[Rich Bowen]

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 21:14 Dennis Clarke  wrote:

> There is nothing
> remotely wrong with subversion and "popular" is not a valid argument.
> Madonna was popular also. So was Lawrence Welk.
>

It's more nuanced than "popular". It's about making it accessible to - and
attracting - a new generation of participants.

>

Re: Migrate to git?

[Rich Bowen]

With my community development hat on, a big +1 even though I hate Git.

Shosholoza,
Rich


On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 16:09 Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an
> increase in contributions and contributors...
>
> Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the
> foundation officially supporting Github, it seems like time to have a
> discussion about it, especially as we start thinking about the next 25
> years of this project :)
>
> Cheers!

ApacheCon North America 2020, project participation

[Rich Bowen]

Hi, folks,

(Note: You're receiving this email because you're on the dev@ list for
one or more Apache Software Foundation projects.)

For ApacheCon North America 2019, we asked projects to participate in
the creation of project/topic specific tracks. This was very successful,
with about 15 projects stepping up to curate the content for their
track/summit/event.

We need to know if you're going to do the same for 2020. This informs
how large a venue we book for the event, how long the event runs, and
many other considerations.

If you intend to participate again in 2020, we need to hear from you on
the plann...@apachecon.com mailing list. This is not a firm commitment,
but we need to know if you're, say, 75% confident that you'll be
participating.

And, no, we do not have any details at all, but assume that it will be
in roughly the same calendar space as this year's event, ie, somewhere
in the August-October timeframe.

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Bowen
VP Conferences
The Apache Software Foundation
@apachecon

ApacheCon North America 2020, project participation

[Rich Bowen]

Hi, folks,

(Note: You're receiving this email because you're on the dev@ list for
one or more Apache Software Foundation projects.)

For ApacheCon North America 2019, we asked projects to participate in
the creation of project/topic specific tracks. This was very successful,
with about 15 projects stepping up to curate the content for their
track/summit/event.

We need to know if you're going to do the same for 2020. This informs
how large a venue we book for the event, how long the event runs, and
many other considerations.

If you intend to participate again in 2020, we need to hear from you on
the plann...@apachecon.com mailing list. This is not a firm commitment,
but we need to know if you're, say, 75% confident that you'll be
participating.

And, no, we do not have any details at all, but assume that it will be
in roughly the same calendar space as this year's event, ie, somewhere
in the August-October timeframe.

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Bowen
VP Conferences
The Apache Software Foundation
@apachecon

ApacheCon North America 2020, project participation

[Rich Bowen]

Hi, folks,

(Note: You're receiving this email because you're on the dev@ list for
one or more Apache Software Foundation projects.)

For ApacheCon North America 2019, we asked projects to participate in
the creation of project/topic specific tracks. This was very successful,
with about 15 projects stepping up to curate the content for their
track/summit/event.

We need to know if you're going to do the same for 2020. This informs
how large a venue we book for the event, how long the event runs, and
many other considerations.

If you intend to participate again in 2020, we need to hear from you on
the plann...@apachecon.com mailing list. This is not a firm commitment,
but we need to know if you're, say, 75% confident that you'll be
participating.

And, no, we do not have any details at all, but assume that it will be
in roughly the same calendar space as this year's event, ie, somewhere
in the August-October timeframe.

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Bowen
VP Conferences
The Apache Software Foundation
@apachecon

Re: ApacheCon call for presentations, httpd content

[Rich Bowen]

The categories are for projects/communities who have committed to put
together a track. Everything else should go in general. I'll try to clarify
that on https://www.apachecon.com/acna19/cfp.html if that was unclear.

On Thu, May 2, 2019, 10:39 Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:

> Hi, Rich;
>I was looking at the CFP and didn't quite see something that aligns
> with httpd. These are the categories allowed:
> General
> Community
> Tomcat
> Big Data
> Machine Learning
> IoT
> Geospatial
> Cassandra
> Traffic Control Summit
> Cloudstack Collaboration Conference
> Integration
> Graph Processing
> Karaf
> Drill
> Observability
> Beam
>
> *maybe* that has has an effect on folks' submissions? Dunno... I just
> submitted in "general"
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>
> On 2019/05/01 20:35:49, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> > Hi, folks.
> >
> > The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in a
> > little less than two weeks. As of right now, as far as I can tell, there
> > is exactly zero httpd content.
> >
> > If we want to have our project represented at ApacheCon this year, what
> > would you want to see? Is there any chance we can fill a half-day of
> > content (ie, 3-4 talks) with what new things have happened in the past
> > year, and what's important now?
> >
> > Personally, I'd like to see a presentation on using mod_md, and perhaps
> > something on the benefits of, and use of, http2 in httpd?
> >
> > The CFP is here - https://www.apachecon.com/acna19/cfp.html - and closes
> > May 13th.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --Rich
> >
>

ApacheCon call for presentations, httpd content

[Rich Bowen]

Hi, folks.

The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in a
little less than two weeks. As of right now, as far as I can tell, there
is exactly zero httpd content.

If we want to have our project represented at ApacheCon this year, what
would you want to see? Is there any chance we can fill a half-day of
content (ie, 3-4 talks) with what new things have happened in the past
year, and what's important now?

Personally, I'd like to see a presentation on using mod_md, and perhaps
something on the benefits of, and use of, http2 in httpd?

The CFP is here - https://www.apachecon.com/acna19/cfp.html - and closes
May 13th.

Thanks!

--Rich

4 Apache Events in 2019: DC Roadshow soon; next up Chicago, Las Vegas, and Berlin!

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

(You’re receiving this because you are subscribed to one or more user
mailing lists for an Apache Software Foundation project.)

TL;DR:
 * Apache Roadshow DC is in 3 weeks. Register now at
https://apachecon.com/usroadshowdc19/
 * Registration for Apache Roadshow Chicago is open.
http://apachecon.com/chiroadshow19
 * The CFP for ApacheCon North America is now open.
https://apachecon.com/acna19
 * Save the date: ApacheCon Europe will be held in Berlin, October 22nd
through 24th.  https://apachecon.com/aceu19


Registration is open for two Apache Roadshows; these are smaller events
with a more focused program and regional community engagement:

Our Roadshow event in Washington DC takes place in under three weeks, on
March 25th. We’ll be hosting a day-long event at the Fairfax campus of
George Mason University. The roadshow is a full day of technical talks
(two tracks) and an open source job fair featuring AWS, Bloomberg, dito,
GridGain, Linode, and Security University. More details about the
program, the job fair, and to register, visit
https://apachecon.com/usroadshowdc19/

Apache Roadshow Chicago will be held May 13-14th at a number of venues
in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood. This event will feature sessions
in AdTech, FinTech and Insurance, startups, “Made in Chicago”, Project
Shark Tank (innovations from the Apache Incubator), community diversity,
and more. It’s a great way to learn about various Apache projects “at
work” while playing at a brewery, a beercade, and a neighborhood bar.
Sign up today at https://www.apachecon.com/chiroadshow19/

We’re delighted to announce that the Call for Presentations (CFP) is now
open for ApacheCon North America in Las Vegas, September 9-13th! As the
official conference series of the ASF, ApacheCon North America will
feature over a dozen Apache project summits, including Cassandra,
Cloudstack, Tomcat, Traffic Control, and more. We’re looking for talks
in a wide variety of categories -- anything related to ASF projects and
the Apache development process. The CFP closes at midnight on May 26th.
In addition, the ASF will be celebrating its 20th Anniversary during the
event. For more details and to submit a proposal for the CFP, visit
https://apachecon.com/acna19/ . Registration will be opening soon.

Be sure to mark your calendars for ApacheCon Europe, which will be held
in Berlin, October 22-24th at the KulturBrauerei, a landmark of Berlin's
industrial history. In addition to innovative content from our projects,
we are collaborating with the Open Source Design community
(https://opensourcedesign.net/) to offer a track on design this year.
The CFP and registration will open soon at https://apachecon.com/aceu19/ .

Sponsorship opportunities are available for all events, with details
listed on each event’s site at http://apachecon.com/.

We look forward to seeing you!

Rich, for the ApacheCon Planners
@apachecon

4 Apache Events in 2019: DC Roadshow soon; next up Chicago, Las Vegas, and Berlin!

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

(You’re receiving this because you are subscribed to one or more user
mailing lists for an Apache Software Foundation project.)

TL;DR:
 * Apache Roadshow DC is in 3 weeks. Register now at
https://apachecon.com/usroadshowdc19/
 * Registration for Apache Roadshow Chicago is open.
http://apachecon.com/chiroadshow19
 * The CFP for ApacheCon North America is now open.
https://apachecon.com/acna19
 * Save the date: ApacheCon Europe will be held in Berlin, October 22nd
through 24th.  https://apachecon.com/aceu19


Registration is open for two Apache Roadshows; these are smaller events
with a more focused program and regional community engagement:

Our Roadshow event in Washington DC takes place in under three weeks, on
March 25th. We’ll be hosting a day-long event at the Fairfax campus of
George Mason University. The roadshow is a full day of technical talks
(two tracks) and an open source job fair featuring AWS, Bloomberg, dito,
GridGain, Linode, and Security University. More details about the
program, the job fair, and to register, visit
https://apachecon.com/usroadshowdc19/

Apache Roadshow Chicago will be held May 13-14th at a number of venues
in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood. This event will feature sessions
in AdTech, FinTech and Insurance, startups, “Made in Chicago”, Project
Shark Tank (innovations from the Apache Incubator), community diversity,
and more. It’s a great way to learn about various Apache projects “at
work” while playing at a brewery, a beercade, and a neighborhood bar.
Sign up today at https://www.apachecon.com/chiroadshow19/

We’re delighted to announce that the Call for Presentations (CFP) is now
open for ApacheCon North America in Las Vegas, September 9-13th! As the
official conference series of the ASF, ApacheCon North America will
feature over a dozen Apache project summits, including Cassandra,
Cloudstack, Tomcat, Traffic Control, and more. We’re looking for talks
in a wide variety of categories -- anything related to ASF projects and
the Apache development process. The CFP closes at midnight on May 26th.
In addition, the ASF will be celebrating its 20th Anniversary during the
event. For more details and to submit a proposal for the CFP, visit
https://apachecon.com/acna19/ . Registration will be opening soon.

Be sure to mark your calendars for ApacheCon Europe, which will be held
in Berlin, October 22-24th at the KulturBrauerei, a landmark of Berlin's
industrial history. In addition to innovative content from our projects,
we are collaborating with the Open Source Design community
(https://opensourcedesign.net/) to offer a track on design this year.
The CFP and registration will open soon at https://apachecon.com/aceu19/ .

Sponsorship opportunities are available for all events, with details
listed on each event’s site at http://apachecon.com/.

We look forward to seeing you!

Rich, for the ApacheCon Planners
@apachecon

Re: Time To Propose Your ApacheCon 2019 Project Summit

[Rich Bowen]

No, nobody has done.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 07:54 Daniel Ruggeri  We've traditionally had a day or two of content for httpd... has anyone
> added an item to the form? I cannot see the backing database/spreadsheet in
> the apachecon gsuite location...
>
> If not, I can propose and coordinate the track... hopefully with others
> (Daniel?, Bill?) who are also on planners@, providing backup as I become
> busy at the start of the semester.
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>
> On November 27, 2018 8:30:51 AM CST, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>>
>> Save the date: ApacheCon North America will be held in Las Vegas, at the
>> Flamingo Hotel, September 9th through 12th, 2019. This is our 20th
>> anniversary event, and we really want you, your project, and its
>> community, to be involved.
>>
>> If you want to be part of making this event happen, please join the
>> privately-archived planners@ mailing list by sending email to
>> planners-subscr...@apachecon.com from your apache.org email address.
>>
>> A call for presentations will be announced soon. You should start giving
>> some thought to what story your project wants to tell at this event, and
>> working with your project community to craft presentations around that
>> story.
>>
>> We will have a number of spaces for projects to conduct project summits,
>> hackathons, or mini-conferences, lasting anywhere from a half day to the
>> entire four days of the event.
>>
>> If your project, or group of several related projects, would like to
>> claim an entire track (one, two, or three days of content) and craft
>> that story yourselves, please propose your track or summit here:
>> https://goo.gl/forms/lczPlXTmGNIsRf823
>>
>> The deadline for proposing a project/topic event is January 7th, (The
>> first Monday of the new year) so that we can reflect these topics in the
>> CFP.
>>
>> If your project holds your own standalone events(s) please consider
>> co-locating with ApacheCon this coming year. We’ll help you promote your
>> event, both as part of ApacheCon, and as its own brand. You get the best
>> of both worlds - you get your own event, with control of your content,
>> and you get to be part of a larger convention with a broader audience.
>>
>> This is your conference, and we are counting on you to step up and make
>> it yours.
>>
>> Stay tuned for more information, on the planners list, and on our
>> Twitter account @apachecon. And we look forward to seeing you to see you
>> in Vegas in September!
>>
>> Rich Bowen, VP Conferences, and the ApacheCon Planners
>>
>>

Re: Server Token: None

[Rich Bowen]

On 11/28/18 4:38 PM, Alex Hautequest wrote:
> Can we have an empty SERVER header instead of the minimalistic but yet 
> “revealing“ issued by the token when set as Prod? Most people are change this 
> header either by patching themselves (and maintaining their patches), or by 
> installing extra modules/plugins, but it would be very, very handy if this 
> was an option from the main source itself.
> 
> I did a quick and dirty patch for the latest release code, and as someone who 
> doesn’t code anything past a hello world for quite a few years, it was simple 
> enough I’m surprised how nobody cared to do it. Or perhaps this had been 
> discussed before and the general consensus was to leave the bare minimum to 
> Prod: if so, people that want to keep low would find their ways anyway, but 
> giving us choice is not unusual from the spirit of FOSS.

This is addressed in the documentation itself. It has come up, numerous
times over the years, and the consensus has always been that having a
Server header is a Good Thing. It complies with the spec. Furthermore,
dropping the Server header gives people the mistaken idea that they are
being somehow more secure, when it does nothing of the sort.

Speakers needed for Apache DC Roadshow

[Rich Bowen]

We need your help to make the Apache Washington DC Roadshow on Dec 4th a 
success.


What do we need most? Speakers!

We're bringing a unique DC flavor to this event by mixing Open Source 
Software with talks about Apache projects as well as OSS CyberSecurity, 
OSS in Government and and OSS Career advice.


Please take a look at: http://www.apachecon.com/usroadshow18/

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--
rbo...@apache.org
http://apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

Speakers needed for Apache DC Roadshow

[Rich Bowen]

We need your help to make the Apache Washington DC Roadshow on Dec 4th a 
success.


What do we need most? Speakers!

We're bringing a unique DC flavor to this event by mixing Open Source 
Software with talks about Apache projects as well as OSS CyberSecurity, 
OSS in Government and and OSS Career advice.


Please take a look at: http://www.apachecon.com/usroadshow18/

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--
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@ApacheCon

Register now for ApacheCon and save $250

[Rich Bowen]

Greetings, Apache software enthusiasts!

(You’re getting this because you’re on one or more dev@ or users@ lists 
for some Apache Software Foundation project.)


ApacheCon North America, in Montreal, is now just 80 days away, and 
early bird prices end in just two weeks - on July 21. Prices will be 
going up from $550 to $800 so register NOW to save $250, at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18


And don’t forget to reserve your hotel room. We have negotiated a 
special rate and the room block closes August 24. 
http://www.apachecon.com/acna18/venue.html


Our schedule includes over 100 talks and we’ll be featuring talks from 
dozens of ASF projects.,  We have inspiring keynotes from some of the 
brilliant members of our community and the wider tech space, including:


 * Myrle Krantz, PMC chair for Apache Fineract, and leader in the open 
source financing space
 * Cliff Schmidt, founder of Literacy Bridge (now Amplio) and creator 
of the Talking Book project

 * Bridget Kromhout, principal cloud developer advocate at Microsoft
 * Euan McLeod, Comcast engineer, and pioneer in streaming video

We’ll also be featuring tracks for Geospatial science, Tomcat, 
Cloudstack, and Big Data, as well as numerous other fields where Apache 
software is leading the way. See the full schedule at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html


As usual we’ll be running our Apache BarCamp, the traditional ApacheCon 
Hackathon, and the Wednesday evening Lighting Talks, too, so you’ll want 
to be there.


Register today at http://apachecon.com/acna18 and we’ll see you in Montreal!

--
Rich Bowen
VP, Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation
h...@apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

Register now for ApacheCon and save $250

[Rich Bowen]

Greetings, Apache software enthusiasts!

(You’re getting this because you’re on one or more dev@ or users@ lists 
for some Apache Software Foundation project.)


ApacheCon North America, in Montreal, is now just 80 days away, and 
early bird prices end in just two weeks - on July 21. Prices will be 
going up from $550 to $800 so register NOW to save $250, at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18


And don’t forget to reserve your hotel room. We have negotiated a 
special rate and the room block closes August 24. 
http://www.apachecon.com/acna18/venue.html


Our schedule includes over 100 talks and we’ll be featuring talks from 
dozens of ASF projects.,  We have inspiring keynotes from some of the 
brilliant members of our community and the wider tech space, including:


 * Myrle Krantz, PMC chair for Apache Fineract, and leader in the open 
source financing space
 * Cliff Schmidt, founder of Literacy Bridge (now Amplio) and creator 
of the Talking Book project

 * Bridget Kromhout, principal cloud developer advocate at Microsoft
 * Euan McLeod, Comcast engineer, and pioneer in streaming video

We’ll also be featuring tracks for Geospatial science, Tomcat, 
Cloudstack, and Big Data, as well as numerous other fields where Apache 
software is leading the way. See the full schedule at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html


As usual we’ll be running our Apache BarCamp, the traditional ApacheCon 
Hackathon, and the Wednesday evening Lighting Talks, too, so you’ll want 
to be there.


Register today at http://apachecon.com/acna18 and we’ll see you in Montreal!

--
Rich Bowen
VP, Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation
h...@apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

Register now for ApacheCon and save $250

[Rich Bowen]

Greetings, Apache software enthusiasts!

(You’re getting this because you’re on one or more dev@ or users@ lists 
for some Apache Software Foundation project.)


ApacheCon North America, in Montreal, is now just 80 days away, and 
early bird prices end in just two weeks - on July 21. Prices will be 
going up from $550 to $800 so register NOW to save $250, at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18


And don’t forget to reserve your hotel room. We have negotiated a 
special rate and the room block closes August 24. 
http://www.apachecon.com/acna18/venue.html


Our schedule includes over 100 talks and we’ll be featuring talks from 
dozens of ASF projects.,  We have inspiring keynotes from some of the 
brilliant members of our community and the wider tech space, including:


 * Myrle Krantz, PMC chair for Apache Fineract, and leader in the open 
source financing space
 * Cliff Schmidt, founder of Literacy Bridge (now Amplio) and creator 
of the Talking Book project

 * Bridget Kromhout, principal cloud developer advocate at Microsoft
 * Euan McLeod, Comcast engineer, and pioneer in streaming video

We’ll also be featuring tracks for Geospatial science, Tomcat, 
Cloudstack, and Big Data, as well as numerous other fields where Apache 
software is leading the way. See the full schedule at 
http://apachecon.com/acna18/schedule.html


As usual we’ll be running our Apache BarCamp, the traditional ApacheCon 
Hackathon, and the Wednesday evening Lighting Talks, too, so you’ll want 
to be there.


Register today at http://apachecon.com/acna18 and we’ll see you in Montreal!

--
Rich Bowen
VP, Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation
h...@apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

ApacheCon North America 2018 schedule is now live.

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

We are pleased to announce our schedule for ApacheCon North America 
2018. ApacheCon will be held September 23-27 at the Montreal Marriott 
Chateau Champlain in Montreal, Canada.


Registration is open! The early bird rate of $575 lasts until July 21, 
at which time it goes up to $800. And the room block at the Marriott 
($225 CAD per night, including wifi) closes on August 24th.


We will be featuring more than 100 sessions on Apache projects. The 
schedule is now online at https://apachecon.com/acna18/


The schedule includes full tracks of content from Cloudstack[1], 
Tomcat[2], and our GeoSpatial community[3].


We will have 4 keynote speakers, two of whom are Apache members, and two 
from the wider community.


On Tuesday, Apache member and former board member Cliff Schmidt will be 
speaking about how Amplio uses technology to educate and improve the 
quality of life of people living in very difficult parts of the 
world[4]. And Apache Fineract VP Myrle Krantz will speak about how Open 
Source banking is helping the global fight against poverty[5].


Then, on Wednesday, we’ll hear from Bridget Kromhout, Principal Cloud 
Developer Advocate from Microsoft, about the really hard problem in 
software - the people[6]. And Euan McLeod, ‎VP VIPER at ‎Comcast will 
show us the many ways that Apache software delivers your favorite shows 
to your living room[7].


ApacheCon will also feature old favorites like the Lightning Talks, the 
Hackathon (running the duration of the event), PGP key signing, and lots 
of hallway-track time to get to know your project community better.


Follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon, and join the disc...@apachecon.com 
mailing list (send email to discuss-subscr...@apachecon.com) to stay up 
to date with developments. And if your company wants to sponsor this 
event, get in touch at h...@apachecon.com for opportunities that are 
still available.


See you in Montreal!

Rich Bowen
VP Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation
h...@apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

[1] http://cloudstackcollab.org/
[2] http://tomcat.apache.org/conference.html
[3] http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/schedule?search=geospatial
[4] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/df977fd305a31b903
[5] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/22c6c30412a3828d6
[6] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/fbbb2384fa91ebc6b
[7] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/88d50c3613852c2de

ApacheCon North America 2018 schedule is now live.

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

We are pleased to announce our schedule for ApacheCon North America 
2018. ApacheCon will be held September 23-27 at the Montreal Marriott 
Chateau Champlain in Montreal, Canada.


Registration is open! The early bird rate of $575 lasts until July 21, 
at which time it goes up to $800. And the room block at the Marriott 
($225 CAD per night, including wifi) closes on August 24th.


We will be featuring more than 100 sessions on Apache projects. The 
schedule is now online at https://apachecon.com/acna18/


The schedule includes full tracks of content from Cloudstack[1], 
Tomcat[2], and our GeoSpatial community[3].


We will have 4 keynote speakers, two of whom are Apache members, and two 
from the wider community.


On Tuesday, Apache member and former board member Cliff Schmidt will be 
speaking about how Amplio uses technology to educate and improve the 
quality of life of people living in very difficult parts of the 
world[4]. And Apache Fineract VP Myrle Krantz will speak about how Open 
Source banking is helping the global fight against poverty[5].


Then, on Wednesday, we’ll hear from Bridget Kromhout, Principal Cloud 
Developer Advocate from Microsoft, about the really hard problem in 
software - the people[6]. And Euan McLeod, ‎VP VIPER at ‎Comcast will 
show us the many ways that Apache software delivers your favorite shows 
to your living room[7].


ApacheCon will also feature old favorites like the Lightning Talks, the 
Hackathon (running the duration of the event), PGP key signing, and lots 
of hallway-track time to get to know your project community better.


Follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon, and join the disc...@apachecon.com 
mailing list (send email to discuss-subscr...@apachecon.com) to stay up 
to date with developments. And if your company wants to sponsor this 
event, get in touch at h...@apachecon.com for opportunities that are 
still available.


See you in Montreal!

Rich Bowen
VP Conferences, The Apache Software Foundation
h...@apachecon.com
@ApacheCon

[1] http://cloudstackcollab.org/
[2] http://tomcat.apache.org/conference.html
[3] http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/schedule?search=geospatial
[4] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/df977fd305a31b903
[5] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/22c6c30412a3828d6
[6] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/fbbb2384fa91ebc6b
[7] 
http://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/88d50c3613852c2de

Re: "Most Popular Web Server?"

[Rich Bowen]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 12:46 Jim Jagielski  wrote:

>
>
> Personally, I'd like to see the the PMC take a more active and
> direct role in addressing #1, maybe w/ monthly blog posts
> coordinated w/ Sally. It would also be cool to reboot Apache Week
> (I know it was an external, 3rd party effort) in in conjunction
> w/ the blog posts or instead of it.
>

Rewinding to this idea, I think this is the right move.

Do we actually want to resurrect apacheweek.com?  Looks like that's a red
hat property now. Perhaps Mark Cox owns it? Or do we want to aim at the
blog site and twitter instead?

I think we'd have no trouble finding monthly articles. Weekly might be a
challenge to work up to.

Perhaps this is something we can try for a few months and see what kind of
schedule we're able to hit. Luca, is this something you'd like to tackle
with me?

>

Re: "Most Popular Web Server?"

[Rich Bowen]

On 04/19/2018 05:43 AM, Nick Kew wrote:

If you want to get writing at a serious level, that’ll be great!  I might even 
contribute
if you can get some momentum going, but I’d never attempt to take a lead, not
least because potential conflict-of-interest with my publisher’s copyright.


+1,000,000

Related, I just attended a presentation at work about how documentation 
(in OpenStack in particular) is part of the engineering process from the 
beginning, and how they work things into the product management process. 
It was very inspiring, and it's something that we actually do pretty 
well in httpd, although we're less intentional about it, possibly?


I'm still very proud of our docs, and we've managed to retain a pretty 
good team of writers over the years.

Re: [POLL] Final status of 2.2.x branch

[Rich Bowen]

On 02/22/2018 01:27 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Luca Toscano  wrote:


does this mean also removing the doc pages? If so I'd be a little bit
concerned, there are still a lot of people using 2.2 and even not-up-to-date
documentation is still better than nothing. Maybe we could send an email to
users@ to announce this beforehand?


We've long published 1.3 and 2.0 docs after the 2.4 launch. There's no
reason to drop 2.2 docs from the website entirely at this time. It is
a question whether the 2.2 docs are maintained, or simply kept
available in final form?

Are you seeking to keep httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/manual/ open for
revision? There need to be three project members willing to maintain
and review each others changes, or it is now time to simply close the
branch to most edits.



I've been away for a bit, so I probably lack context here.

We didn't close the 1.3 docs to edit until ... well, they can still be 
edited, although it's been years since anyone has.


We should keep the 2.2 docs online, for sure. Making them continue to be 
updated is fine - they still have typos and broken links in them that 
need to be fixed.


The 1.3 and 2.0 docs died due to lack of interest, not due to policy. 
And, at some point (like after the 2.6 release, for example) we'll want 
to go back and add some rel canonical stuff in the headers to point to 
the newest version.


I'm just saying that I think it's fine to let them die a natural death, 
rather than killing them by policy.

Save the date: ApacheCon North America, September 24-27 in Montréal

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

(You’re receiving this message because you’re subscribed to a user@ or 
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We’re pleased to announce the upcoming ApacheCon [1] in Montréal, 
September 24-27. This event is all about you — the Apache project community.


We’ll have four tracks of technical content this time, as well as lots 
of opportunities to connect with your project community, hack on the 
code, and learn about other related (and unrelated!) projects across the 
foundation.


The Call For Papers (CFP) [2] and registration are now open. Register 
early to take advantage of the early bird prices and secure your place 
at the event hotel.


Important dates
March 30: CFP closes
April 20: CFP notifications sent
	August 24: Hotel room block closes (please do not wait until the last 
minute)


Follow @ApacheCon on Twitter to be the first to hear announcements about 
keynotes, the schedule, evening events, and everything you can expect to 
see at the event.


See you in Montréal!

Sincerely, Rich Bowen, V.P. Events,
on behalf of the entire ApacheCon team

[1] http://www.apachecon.com/acna18
[2] https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018

Save the date: ApacheCon North America, September 24-27 in Montréal

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

(You’re receiving this message because you’re subscribed to a user@ or 
dev@ list of one or more Apache Software Foundation projects.)


We’re pleased to announce the upcoming ApacheCon [1] in Montréal, 
September 24-27. This event is all about you — the Apache project community.


We’ll have four tracks of technical content this time, as well as lots 
of opportunities to connect with your project community, hack on the 
code, and learn about other related (and unrelated!) projects across the 
foundation.


The Call For Papers (CFP) [2] and registration are now open. Register 
early to take advantage of the early bird prices and secure your place 
at the event hotel.


Important dates
March 30: CFP closes
April 20: CFP notifications sent
	August 24: Hotel room block closes (please do not wait until the last 
minute)


Follow @ApacheCon on Twitter to be the first to hear announcements about 
keynotes, the schedule, evening events, and everything you can expect to 
see at the event.


See you in Montréal!

Sincerely, Rich Bowen, V.P. Events,
on behalf of the entire ApacheCon team

[1] http://www.apachecon.com/acna18
[2] https://cfp.apachecon.com/conference.html?apachecon-north-america-2018

Re: mod_md and ManagedDomain

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/11/2017 05:08 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:

There are important questions on how we progress the design of the server. I
have asked for participation and feedback on the design of ACME support in httpd
since April. Shoulder clapping, "go ahead!", "fine!".

Answers to design questions: not really
Requests for opinion about a "restart" feature: 0
Code request for a Windows Service restart call: 0
Request of a serf based implementation of the http client: 0
Feedback from testing by the team: 0

Opinions about renaming parts/the whole thing just days before
a possible release to users who want this: +7

You got to be kiddding me!


My apologies. I have no insight or skills in those other areas. My sole 
area of expertise is documentation and the users that use those 
documents. As I said before, please feel free to ignore my input and 
move on. Sorry I brought it up.

Re: [docs] mod_md documentation clarification

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/02/2017 04:23 AM, Luca Toscano wrote:

Hi Rich,

2017-11-28 17:06 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de 
<mailto:stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de>>:



> Am 28.11.2017 um 16:40 schrieb Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com 
<mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com>>:
> Related: I also would like to question the wisdom of having a ManagedDomain 
directive and a  container. This will most assuredly lead to user 
confusion and lengthy IRC conversations. I would request that the naming of one of these 
directives be reconsidered. (No, I'm not suggesting anything. I suck at naming things.)

I concur that you have more experience in supporting httpd users
than myself. Personally, I do like it obviously.


I am really interested to follow up this topic, it seems really 
important before moving mod_md to 2.4. What are the use cases that you 
have in mind about users getting confused? The first one that comes up 
in my mind is somebody looking for "ManagedDomain" on a search engine 
and clicking on the  link, ending up thinking that only 
that one exists. 


That is exactly the scenario that I had in mind.

And I can see how this might turn up to be a IRC
nightmare, but maybe it could be resolved with good documentation? I 


It's certainly possible that we can resolve this with good 
documentation. However, there's always third-party "documentation" and 
forum advice.


have in mind some changes to add warnings in both directives, stating 
very clearly in each one that the other one also exists, but I am not 
sure how well this solution could solve the issue.


The other risk that I can see having something like ManagedDomain and 
 (or whatever name we choose) is that users will 
get confused while trying to figure out what are the differences between 
the two, ending up in IRC again :D


I would also like to get feedback from other people involved in users 
support on IRC if possible, this is the right moment to get some wisdom 
from them.


Thanks a lot Rich for bringing up this subject!


Yeah, I don't feel so strongly about it that I'd want to force my 
opinion down anybody's throat. I know, too, that naming things 
"intuitively" is very, very hard.

Re: mod_md and ManagedDomain

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/05/2017 10:48 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:

Ok, so that something good comes out of all this: Rich just promised to sing at 
the next ApacheCon, right Rich?


If I did, I must have had too much scotch ...



"Keys", by ManagedDomainFormerlyCalledYouKnowWhat:

"You don't conf certificates
  to turn me on,
  I just give encryption, baby,
  from dusk till dawn."


If you sing it with me, I'm there. :D

--Rich


Am 05.12.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Daniel :

hahaha



I understand it it may seem silly to discuss this or that name I think
it will be of great benefit to find a good name in the long run, to
make it easy to recognize and/or user support.

2017-12-05 15:06 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing :

?


Am 05.12.2017 um 15:03 schrieb Luca Toscano :

Maybe ManagedDomain and , as iiuc we are going to use for 
SSLPolicy?

Luca

2017-12-05 14:47 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing :
Totally agree with you. If you make a better proposal that avoids existing 
overlaps, I might just pick it up.

-Stefan


Am 05.12.2017 um 14:40 schrieb Luca Toscano :

Hi Stefan,

2017-12-04 14:16 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing :
Not much input regarding this naming change. Personally, I like to keep 
'

Re: mod_md and ManagedDomain

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/04/2017 08:16 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:

Not much input regarding this naming change. Personally, I like to keep 
'

Re: mod_ssl and SSLPolicy

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/04/2017 07:56 AM, Daniel wrote:

Sounds like a good change if anyone asks me. :)

2017-12-04 13:39 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de>:

Thanks for all the input. What I see is consensus about the SSLPolicy change:

'SSLPolicy'  -> stay as is
'<SSLPolicy' -> '<SSLPolicyDefine'

(I prefer the verb above the noun here since mod_ssl uses verbs in other config 
name.)

If no one objects, I will go for this change in the next days.


Sounds fine to me. I will also respect your decision if you choose not 
to make this change, as I said elsewhere in the thread.



Cheers,

Stefan


Am 03.12.2017 um 11:16 schrieb Rainer Jung <rainer.j...@kippdata.de>:

Am 28.11.2017 um 16:51 schrieb Rich Bowen:

As one of the folks that answers questions on IRC, I would like to object to the 
existence of SSLPolicy and . I think it's unwise to have two 
directives with the same name, for reasons of end-user support.
As long as it's still only in trunk, we still have an opportunity to avert user 
confusion.
I request that one of these be renamed. (No, I'm not suggesting specific names. 
I suck at naming things.)

What about keeping the simple SSLPolicy directive (the name of the policy to apply) and 
renaming the container directive from  to .

One other solution would by keeping  and rewnaming the simple 
directive to SSLPolicyApply.

Regards,

Rainer

Re: mod_ssl and SSLPolicy

[Rich Bowen]

On 11/29/2017 04:23 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:

Having slept a night over this and the mod_md config change request, I say
this leaves me somewhat sour. A request for an unspecified change by
someone important in this project is basically blocking any progress for me.

I am sure that was not your intention, but I feel the current choice of
naming good, because that is why they are there, and I am not convinced
that any alternative I come up with falls on fertile ground. That could
lead to a groundhog day experience with me doing the work and others
saying 'nah!' afterwards.


I'm very sorry, that was not at all my intention. I am merely trying to 
avoid user confusion. If you disagree, just say so, and I'll drop it.




This change is obviously important to you, so please lead a consensus on
how it should be changed. The code change I will then do afterwards if
no one else feels like it.

Cheers,

Stefan


Am 28.11.2017 um 16:51 schrieb Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>:

As one of the folks that answers questions on IRC, I would like to object to the 
existence of SSLPolicy and . I think it's unwise to have two 
directives with the same name, for reasons of end-user support.

As long as it's still only in trunk, we still have an opportunity to avert user 
confusion.

I request that one of these be renamed. (No, I'm not suggesting specific names. 
I suck at naming things.)

Thanks.

--Rich

Re: PHP test cases

[Rich Bowen]

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 17:32 Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:

> Hi, all;
>
> I have only one set of remaining test cases to complete my
> automated-build-and-test-and-report thingamajig. I've identified a
> potential issue with our expected test results and could use a pointer
> from anyone who tests PHP regularly.
>

I'm curious if you've also asked over on the php lists. Istr they were
pushing pretty hard for a move to 7 but I don't know what the position is
for old versions.



>
> I'm looking at t/php/safemode.t and according to [1], safemode was
> removed in 5.4.0. The thing I'm wondering is if we should first test for
> PHP <5.4.0 before proceeding or if we should eliminate t/php/safemode.t
> altogether. I'm leaning toward the latter as it's a removed feature and
> shouldn't hold up our own testing.
>
>
> Also, t/php/getlastmod.t fails because of a warning[2] unless php.ini
> has been set to explicitly declare a timezone (unsure of which version
> PHP made this a warning). Should we modify our php script or modify the
> comparison to be a match that includes the month? My workaround was to
> create a php.ini on the fly but we ought to handle this better in the code.
>
>
> Side note... t/filter/case.t fails unless perl documentation is
> installed. We should note this or pick a better file :-)
>
>
> [1] http://php.net/manual/en/features.safe-mode.php
>
> [2]
> http://php.net/manual/en/function.date.php#refsect1-function.date-errors
>
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>
>

Re: [docs] mod_md documentation clarification

[Rich Bowen]

On 11/28/2017 11:06 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:




Am 28.11.2017 um 16:40 schrieb Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>:

I'm reading the mod_md docs, and want some clarification on the following. In 
the docs for directive ManagedDomain, we have:


Thanks for reviewing these.


There are two special names that you may use in this directive: 'manual' and 
'auto'. This determines if a Managed Domain shall have exactly the name list as 
is configured ('manual') or offer more convenience. With 'auto' all names of a 
virtual host are added to a MD.

This is followed by an example that uses neither 'manual' nor 'auto', and thus 
it's unclear what the above paragraph refers to.


I updated the section with an additional example and more explanation.


Thanks. That's much clearer, and not the way I had interpreted it before.

mod_ssl and SSLPolicy

[Rich Bowen]

As one of the folks that answers questions on IRC, I would like to 
object to the existence of SSLPolicy and . I think it's 
unwise to have two directives with the same name, for reasons of 
end-user support.


As long as it's still only in trunk, we still have an opportunity to 
avert user confusion.


I request that one of these be renamed. (No, I'm not suggesting specific 
names. I suck at naming things.)


Thanks.

--Rich

[docs] mod_md documentation clarification

[Rich Bowen]

I'm reading the mod_md docs, and want some clarification on the 
following. In the docs for directive ManagedDomain, we have:


There are two special names that you may use in this directive: 'manual' 
and 'auto'. This determines if a Managed Domain shall have exactly the 
name list as is configured ('manual') or offer more convenience. With 
'auto' all names of a virtual host are added to a MD.


This is followed by an example that uses neither 'manual' nor 'auto', 
and thus it's unclear what the above paragraph refers to.


I believe that it refers to the MDDriveMode directive, which does not 
appear in the example.


I propose to patch the above paragraph to clarify that that's what's 
being talked about.


Related: I also would like to question the wisdom of having a 
ManagedDomain directive and a  container. This will most 
assuredly lead to user confusion and lengthy IRC conversations. I would 
request that the naming of one of these directives be reconsidered. (No, 
I'm not suggesting anything. I suck at naming things.)

Research volunteers needed

[Rich Bowen]

I'm sure many of you know Dawn Foster. She keynoted Apachecon for us in
Denver.

She's looking for several volunteers from the httpd community to help her
with her PhD research. If you are interested in participating please let me
know and I will make the introductions. The research is around open source
software and techniques of addressing bugs.

Thanks

Re: HTTP Server Hackathon/BOFs in Miami?

[Rich Bowen]

I will be present, but I expect to be very busy with meetings,
feathercasts, and so on. Between events, I will hang out at a HTTP
hackathon table and work on docs stuff that I have outstanding.

On 04/26/2017 01:05 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> Reiterating the question... from the absence of any answer - I'm presuming
> our project is not germane to the coming ApacheCon event? As much as
> I enjoy the IoT field, afraid this conference may fall out of scope for me.
> 
> I know Jim registered as 'present' and presenting, Rich is registered as
> both presenting and 'responsible', and noted jfc is presenting - but with
> the TCCon sub-event I'm guessing he to is too over-committed. And
> less than a fistful of other interesting talks, but other than Daniel, not
> contributors specifically.
> 
> If anyone else in this project is either presenting, or attending, or simply
> ghosting, it would be great to know, since I have to make my travel
> decisions yesterday.
> 
> I'll be at PenguiCon Detroit this coming weekend, if anyone wants to
> catch up or toss me OSS-related questions with respect to the ASF
> or in the wider ecosystem.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:38 PM, William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> 
> wrote:
>> Evaluating whether I will attend ApacheCon, the most specific reason would
>> be hackathon time. Or productive BoF sessions.
>>
>> Who all is planning to spend some time hacking at ACNA '17? Ideas for
>> projects or BoF topics?


-- 
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon



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Fwd: Re: question about new apache release

[Rich Bowen]

I've been asked to send the following message to this list. Apparently
they've been unable to get the message through for some reason.

I'm not sure what kind of response Oscar is looking for, other than
"we'll release when it's ready", but perhaps this will be incentive for
someone to call it done.

Thanks.


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: question about new apache release
Date:   Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:23:53 +0200
From:   olillo 
CC: Guadilla Jimenez, Oscar 


Hi,
We are also waiting for the next release. We helped testing a bug in the
mod_proxy_hcheck (https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60071)
and we need to use it in our production env as fast as possible.
Let’s see if it helps to speed things up.

Thanks again for your help

Oscar






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FINAL REMINDER: CFP for ApacheCon closes February 11th

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache Enthusiast,

This is your FINAL reminder that the Call for Papers (CFP) for ApacheCon
Miami is closing this weekend - February 11th. This is your final
opportunity to submit a talk for consideration at this event.

This year, we are running several mini conferences in conjunction with
the main event, so if you're submitting for one of those events, please
pay attention to the instructions below.

Apache: Big Data
* Event information:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america
* CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/program/cfp

Apache: IoT (Internet of Things)
* Event Information: http://us.apacheiot.org/
* CFP -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
(Indicate 'IoT' in the Target Audience field)

CloudStack Collaboration Conference
* Event information: http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/
* CFP -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
(Indicate 'CloudStack' in the Target Audience field)

FlexJS Summit
* Event information - http://us.apacheflexjs.org/
* CFP -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
(Indicate 'Flex' in the Target Audience field)

TomcatCon
* Event information - https://tomcat.apache.org/conference.html
* CFP -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
(Indicate 'Tomcat' in the Target Audience field)

All other topics and projects
* Event information -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/about
* CFP -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp

Admission to any of these events also grants you access to all of the
others.

Thanks, and we look forward to seeing you in Miami!

-- 
Rich Bowen
VP Conferences, Apache Software Foundation
rbo...@apache.org
Twitter: @apachecon



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ApacheCon CFP closing soon (11 February)

[Rich Bowen]

Hello, fellow Apache enthusiast. Thanks for your participation, and
interest in, the projects of the Apache Software Foundation.

I wanted to remind you that the Call For Papers (CFP) for ApacheCon
North America, and Apache: Big Data North America, closes in less than a
month. If you've been putting it off because there was lots of time
left, it's time to dig for that inspiration and get those talk proposals in.

It's also time to discuss with your developer and user community whether
there's a track of talks that you might want to propose, so that you
have more complete coverage of your project than a talk or two.

We're looking for talks directly, and indirectly, related to projects at
the Apache Software Foundation. These can be anything from in-depth
technical discussions of the projects you work with, to talks about
community, documentation, legal issues, marketing, and so on. We're also
very interested in talks about projects and services built on top of
Apache projects, and case studies of how you use Apache projects to
solve real-world problems.

We are particularly interested in presentations from Apache projects
either in the Incubator, or recently graduated. ApacheCon is where
people come to find out what technology they'll be using this time next
year.

Important URLs are:

To submit a talk for Apache: Big Data -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/program/cfp
To submit a talk for ApacheCon -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp

To register for Apache: Big Data -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/attend/register-
To register for ApacheCon -
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/attend/register-

Early Bird registration rates end March 12th, but if you're a committer
on an Apache project, you get the low committer rate, which is less than
half of the early bird rate!

For further updated about ApacheCon, follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon,
or drop by our IRC channel, #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network. Or
contact me - rbo...@apache.org - with any questions or concerns.

Thanks!

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Re: mod_lets-encrypt

[Rich Bowen]

I talked with him at linuxcon, but there's been no followup. I for one
would love to see this happen.

On Jan 10, 2017 12:15 PM, "Jacob Champion"  wrote:

> On 01/10/2017 08:35 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
>> Before I send someone into the woods - did anyone consider/do a quick
>> ‘mod_lets_encrypt’ (with or without a persistent store) — that
>> requires virtually no configuration ?
>>
>
> Considered? Yes. Back in August there was some discussion on this list
> with Josh Aas. I don't know what the current status is.
>
> See
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ea902ae8e453b3a8d363453
> 18fc74a54880d8bf14fed24e665c4b833@%3Cdev.httpd.apache.org%3E
>
> and
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/27d1fce7d30d9e31e247204
> 5c260e4f8dcefd300a731ff9e435a5d4a@%3Cdev.httpd.apache.org%3E
>
> --Jacob
>

Fwd: Getting Ready for FOSDEM 2017

[Rich Bowen]

FYI, if you're going to be at FOSDEM in February, it would be awesome to
see you there, and we can use some help promoting the ASF at the booth.


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Getting Ready for FOSDEM 2017
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 13:30:49 -
From: Sharan Foga 
Reply-To: d...@community.apache.org
To: d...@community.apache.org

Hi Everyone

FOSDEM is less than a month away. For those of you who don't know about
FOSDEM then please take a look at the link below:

https://fosdem.org/2017/

The main thing that people highlight is that it is free so please
promote going to FOSDEM to your communities.
FOSDEM Wiki Page
---
I've updated the FOSDEM wiki page to include the key details from the
conference.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2017

Please take a look. We are looking for volunteers to help out on the
booth over the 2 days of the conference, so if you are going to be there
and are willing to help then please add your name to the volunteer list.

ASF Booth

This year the ASF will again be running a booth at FOSDEM. Unfortunately
we will only have one (last year we had a separate one for AOO too). As
usual we will be talking to people about the ASF and giving away some
ASF swag.

Promoting Your Project at FOSDEM
-
FOSDEM has up to 4-5000 attendees so is a great place to spread the word
about your project.

If you would like to spend time on the ASF booth promoting your project
then please sign up on the FOSDEM wiki page.  Initially we would like to
split this into slots of 3-4 hours but this will depend on the number of
projects that are represented.

Project Stickers
--
If you are going to be at FOSDEM and do not have any project stickers to
give away then we may, budget permitting be able to help you get some
printed. Please contact me with your requirements.
Community Devroom
---
This year FOSDEM will specifically include a Community Devroom covering
a range of community related topics. See below for schedule

https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/track/community/
Social Event
--
People have asked about organising a ASF social event / meetup during
the conference. This is possible but we will need know how many people
are interested and what date works best for everyone. The wiki page
contains a section for you to let us know when you will be in Brussels
so please add your details if you would like to participate.

I hope this helps people see what a great event FOSDEM is and I'm
looking forward to seeing lots of people from our ASF communities there.

Thanks
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Re: Post 2.4.25

[Rich Bowen]

On Dec 24, 2016 10:57, "Jim Jagielski"  wrote:



Yeah, right now the way we are "doing marketing" is by
continually adding features and enhancements to 2.4... It
is what keeps 2.4 relevant and is what either keeps current
httpd users using httpd or maybe help those on the fence decide
on httpd instead of nginx/whatever.

My point is that even having a 6 month minimal (and that
is, IMO, widely optimistic and unrealistic) of "no new
features for 2.4" means that we are basically giving people
reasons to drop httpd.


Oh, sure, I agree with that. Six months of (perceived) inaction would tell
the world we're all done. I'm probably answering a different question.  :)

Re: Post 2.4.25

[Rich Bowen]

On 12/23/2016 03:52 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Personally, I don't think that backporting stuff to
> 2.4 prevents or disallows development on 2.6/3.0. In
> fact, I think it helps. We can easily do both...
> after all, we are still "working" on 2.2.
> 
> As I have also stated, my personal belief is that
> 2.4 is finally reaching some traction, and if we
> "turn off" development/enhancement of 2.4, we will
> stop the uptake of 2.4 in its track. We need to keep
> 2.4 viable and worthwhile we, at the same time, work
> on 2.6/3.0. I think we all understand that getting
> 2.6/3.0 out will not be a quick and/or painless
> action.

From my perspective, watching Nginx gain traction through superior
marketing, and channeling Dilbert's Pointy Haired Boss in assuming that
everything which I have never done must be simple, I, for one, would
like to see us release a 2.6, and more generally, to release a 2.x every
2 years, or less, rather than every 4 years, or more.

My opinion on this, I would emphasize, is 100% marketing, and 0%
technical. I realize we "don't do" marketing, but if we want to still ve
having the fun of doing this in another 20 years, it may be necessary to
get our name out there a little more frequently in terms of doing new
things. We are frankly not great at telling the world about the cool new
things we're doing.


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Hackathon tomorrow?

[Rich Bowen]

If you're around Apachecon Tomorrow please consider dropping by the
hackathon area on floor -2 to work on the items in
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/aceu-2016-hackathon

Thanks.

Re: httpd track in Seville

[Rich Bowen]

Last chance. CFP closes tonight.

On Sep 6, 2016 09:59, "Luca Toscano" <toscano.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2016-08-30 15:34 GMT+02:00 Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>:
>
>> As you know, the CFP for ApacheCon closes in less than 2 weeks. It would
>> be awesome if we could pull together an httpd track, highlighting that
>> httpd is still the flagship of the ASF, and is still exciting, relevant,
>> and alive. The last few ApacheCons, we haven't managed to muster a
>> track, or even a half day.
>>
>> To this end, we've started to put together a proposed list of talks that
>> we'd like to see people submit, in the hopes that we end up with 2 days
>> - a user track, and a developer track - of httpd content.
>>
>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/httpd-apachecon-seville
>>
>> Please claim (and submit!) talks that appear on this list, and suggest
>> others that we haven't thought of. Also, please plan to attend. The
>> venue is beautiful and cheap, and it would be awesome to have a bunch of
>> us there to do an old-school squash-the-bugs write-the-code
>> meet-the-devs hackathon.
>>
>>
> Ping to everybody in the list, if you have anything to add please check
> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/httpd-apachecon-seville :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Luca
>

ApacheCon Seville CFP closes September 9th

[Rich Bowen]

It's traditional. We wait for the last minute to get our talk proposals
in for conferences.

Well, the last minute has arrived. The CFP for ApacheCon Seville closes
on September 9th, which is less than 2 weeks away. It's time to get your
talks in, so that we can make this the best ApacheCon yet.

It's also time to discuss with your developer and user community whether
there's a track of talks that you might want to propose, so that you
have more complete coverage of your project than a talk or two.

For Apache Big Data, the relevant URLs are:
Event details:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

For ApacheCon Europe, the relevant URLs are:
Event details: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

This year, we'll be reviewing papers "blind" - that is, looking at the
abstracts without knowing who the speaker is. This has been shown to
eliminate the "me and my buddies" nature of many tech conferences,
producing more diversity, and more new speakers. So make sure your
abstracts clearly explain what you'll be talking about.

For further updated about ApacheCon, follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon,
or drop by our IRC channel, #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network.

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ApacheCon Seville CFP closes September 9th

[Rich Bowen]

It's traditional. We wait for the last minute to get our talk proposals
in for conferences.

Well, the last minute has arrived. The CFP for ApacheCon Seville closes
on September 9th, which is less than 2 weeks away. It's time to get your
talks in, so that we can make this the best ApacheCon yet.

It's also time to discuss with your developer and user community whether
there's a track of talks that you might want to propose, so that you
have more complete coverage of your project than a talk or two.

For Apache Big Data, the relevant URLs are:
Event details:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

For ApacheCon Europe, the relevant URLs are:
Event details: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

This year, we'll be reviewing papers "blind" - that is, looking at the
abstracts without knowing who the speaker is. This has been shown to
eliminate the "me and my buddies" nature of many tech conferences,
producing more diversity, and more new speakers. So make sure your
abstracts clearly explain what you'll be talking about.

For further updated about ApacheCon, follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon,
or drop by our IRC channel, #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network.

-- 
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Twitter: @ApacheCon

ApacheCon Seville CFP closes September 9th

[Rich Bowen]

It's traditional. We wait for the last minute to get our talk proposals
in for conferences.

Well, the last minute has arrived. The CFP for ApacheCon Seville closes
on September 9th, which is less than 2 weeks away. It's time to get your
talks in, so that we can make this the best ApacheCon yet.

It's also time to discuss with your developer and user community whether
there's a track of talks that you might want to propose, so that you
have more complete coverage of your project than a talk or two.

For Apache Big Data, the relevant URLs are:
Event details:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

For ApacheCon Europe, the relevant URLs are:
Event details: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

This year, we'll be reviewing papers "blind" - that is, looking at the
abstracts without knowing who the speaker is. This has been shown to
eliminate the "me and my buddies" nature of many tech conferences,
producing more diversity, and more new speakers. So make sure your
abstracts clearly explain what you'll be talking about.

For further updated about ApacheCon, follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon,
or drop by our IRC channel, #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network.

-- 
Rich Bowen
WWW: http://apachecon.com/
Twitter: @ApacheCon

ApacheCon Seville CFP closes September 9th

[Rich Bowen]

It's traditional. We wait for the last minute to get our talk proposals
in for conferences.

Well, the last minute has arrived. The CFP for ApacheCon Seville closes
on September 9th, which is less than 2 weeks away. It's time to get your
talks in, so that we can make this the best ApacheCon yet.

It's also time to discuss with your developer and user community whether
there's a track of talks that you might want to propose, so that you
have more complete coverage of your project than a talk or two.

For Apache Big Data, the relevant URLs are:
Event details:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

For ApacheCon Europe, the relevant URLs are:
Event details: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

This year, we'll be reviewing papers "blind" - that is, looking at the
abstracts without knowing who the speaker is. This has been shown to
eliminate the "me and my buddies" nature of many tech conferences,
producing more diversity, and more new speakers. So make sure your
abstracts clearly explain what you'll be talking about.

For further updated about ApacheCon, follow us on Twitter, @ApacheCon,
or drop by our IRC channel, #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network.

-- 
Rich Bowen
WWW: http://apachecon.com/
Twitter: @ApacheCon

httpd track in Seville

[Rich Bowen]

As you know, the CFP for ApacheCon closes in less than 2 weeks. It would
be awesome if we could pull together an httpd track, highlighting that
httpd is still the flagship of the ASF, and is still exciting, relevant,
and alive. The last few ApacheCons, we haven't managed to muster a
track, or even a half day.

To this end, we've started to put together a proposed list of talks that
we'd like to see people submit, in the hopes that we end up with 2 days
- a user track, and a developer track - of httpd content.

https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/httpd-apachecon-seville

Please claim (and submit!) talks that appear on this list, and suggest
others that we haven't thought of. Also, please plan to attend. The
venue is beautiful and cheap, and it would be awesome to have a bunch of
us there to do an old-school squash-the-bugs write-the-code
meet-the-devs hackathon.

(Disclaimer: talks put on this etherpad are not automatically accepted.
There's still the actual talk selection process, which is done by
committee, and is subject to what other stuff is submitted to the event,
and available space.)

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httpd and letsencrypt

[Rich Bowen]

At LinuxCon I spoke with the director of the LetsEncrypt project - whose
business card I haven't yet found in unpacking - and he asked whether
the httpd project would be interested in LetsEncrypt being "in" httpd.
That is, when one installs httpd, letsencrypt would just be a config
option. (I have no idea how this would actually work, but that's beside
the point really.)

Is this something that we'd be interested in, if it were contributed? I
note that their software is under the Apache License, so there shouldn't
be any difficulty on that front.

Naturally, I told him that the next step was to get on this mailing list
and talk about implementation details, and he said he'd do that. So that
should be coming in the next week, as soon as I find his business card
and send him the subscribe info and so on.

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ApacheCon Europe Call For Papers Open

[Rich Bowen]

As you are no doubt already aware, we will be holding ApacheCon in
Seville, Spain, the week of November 14th, 2016. The call for papers
(CFP) for this event is now open, and will remain open until 
September 9th.

The event is divided into two parts, each with its own CFP. The first
part of the event, called Apache Big Data, focuses on Big Data
projects and related technologies.

Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

The second part, called ApacheCon Europe, focuses on the Apache
Software Foundation as a whole, covering all projects, community
issues, governance, and so on.

Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

ApacheCon is the official conference of the Apache Software
Foundation, and is the best place to meet members of your project and
other ASF projects, and strengthen your project's community.

If your organization is interested in sponsoring ApacheCon, contact me
at e...@apache.org  ApacheCon is a great place to find the brightest
developers in the world, and experts on a huge range of technologies.

I hope to see you in Seville!

Re: dbmmanage

[Rich Bowen]

On 06/07/2016 08:31 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>>> dbmmanage has some functionality that is lacking in htdbm - in
>>> particular, the ability to import a plain text htpasswd style password
>>> file. However, the script httxt2dbm fills that need, which is presumably
>>> (usually) a one-time thing, rather than ongoing maintenance, so that's ok.
>>
>> Right, we ship that too.  I don't recall dropping dbmmanage being 
>> controversial.
> 
> I don't know that its controversial, but we do want reality reflected in
> the docs.
> 
> To clarify, are you saying that this was just a RHEL/Fedora change, or
> do you know if it's more widespread than that? Trying to find a
> Debian/Ubuntu machine to verify ...


ok, Ubuntu does have dbmmanage, so perhaps we just need to have the docs
note that it's not available on all platforms, etc.

Now, I just need to figure out how to reproduce the the `import`
functionality without dbmmanage.

Thanks for the info, Joe.

--Rich


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Re: dbmmanage

[Rich Bowen]

On 06/07/2016 08:21 AM, Joe Orton wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 06:39:46AM -0400, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> In troubleshooting something with dbmmanage, I came across this:
>>
>> http://marc.info/?l=fedora-extras-commits=137148193030744=2
>>
>> I'm sure there's more context here that I haven't unearthed yet, but
>> does anyone (Joe?) happen to remember what the comment "zombie
>> dbmmanage" means here? Is dbmmanage deprecated in some way that we
>> should reflect in the docs?
> 
> With ht*dbm we know for certain the tool can use exactly the same set of 
> DB libraries as mod_auth*_dbm - the same was never true for dbmmanage, 
> which used whatever was available to Perl.  I suspect dbmmanage was the 
> last thing creating a dependency from the httpd package to Perl as well.
> 
> We dropped dbmmanage from our packages a very long time ago, I think 
> possibly even when upgrading from 1.3 to 2.0.  RHEL3's httpd 2.0 
> packages don't have dbmmanage, from a quick check.
> 
> When updating to 2.4 a bunch of scripts moved from sbindir to bindir, 
> which fooled the spec file, dbmmanage came back to life and was 
> unintenionally - and briefly - shipped in the Fedora RPMs again.  Hence 
> the zombie killing comment!
> 
>> dbmmanage has some functionality that is lacking in htdbm - in
>> particular, the ability to import a plain text htpasswd style password
>> file. However, the script httxt2dbm fills that need, which is presumably
>> (usually) a one-time thing, rather than ongoing maintenance, so that's ok.
> 
> Right, we ship that too.  I don't recall dropping dbmmanage being 
> controversial.

I don't know that its controversial, but we do want reality reflected in
the docs.

To clarify, are you saying that this was just a RHEL/Fedora change, or
do you know if it's more widespread than that? Trying to find a
Debian/Ubuntu machine to verify ...



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Re: dbmmanage

[Rich Bowen]

On 06/07/2016 06:39 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> In troubleshooting something with dbmmanage, I came across this:
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=fedora-extras-commits=137148193030744=2
> 
> I'm sure there's more context here that I haven't unearthed yet, but
> does anyone (Joe?) happen to remember what the comment "zombie
> dbmmanage" means here? Is dbmmanage deprecated in some way that we
> should reflect in the docs?
> 
> dbmmanage has some functionality that is lacking in htdbm - in
> particular, the ability to import a plain text htpasswd style password
> file. However, the script httxt2dbm fills that need, which is presumably
> (usually) a one-time thing, rather than ongoing maintenance, so that's ok.

Hmm. I take that back. httxt2dbm doesn't handle this case - it's for
files formatted for rewritemap. So converting text password files to dbm
isn't something we have a (simple) solution for other than dbmmanage.


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dbmmanage

[Rich Bowen]

In troubleshooting something with dbmmanage, I came across this:

http://marc.info/?l=fedora-extras-commits=137148193030744=2

I'm sure there's more context here that I haven't unearthed yet, but
does anyone (Joe?) happen to remember what the comment "zombie
dbmmanage" means here? Is dbmmanage deprecated in some way that we
should reflect in the docs?

dbmmanage has some functionality that is lacking in htdbm - in
particular, the ability to import a plain text htpasswd style password
file. However, the script httxt2dbm fills that need, which is presumably
(usually) a one-time thing, rather than ongoing maintenance, so that's ok.

--Rich

Re: where to put update_mime_types.pl?

[Rich Bowen]

On Feb 26, 2016 04:45, "Ruediger Pluem"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 02/26/2016 01:46 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> > I have a perl script (see below) for updating the mime.types file with
the latest
> > registered IANA media types.  I would like to add it to our version
control,
> > but I am unsure whether to place it in
> >
> >   httpd/trunk/support/
> >
> > or in
> >
> >   httpd/docs-build/trunk/
>
> For now I would would vote for
>
> httpd/docs-build/trunk/
>

Agreed. Updating the mime.types file tends to fall to the docs folks.

Re: Replace feather

[Rich Bowen]

On 02/11/2016 12:56 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I was wondering about whether we should update the feather[1] with the new 
> one...
> I can do it...
> 
> 1. https://httpd.apache.org/images/httpd_logo_wide_new.png


It's starting to grow on me ...


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Re: Thoughts on using HW for httpd?

[Rich Bowen]

We need to be selective about what we put on here. Having it be a mirror
of out ticket tracking would be just another thing to maintain. Having
it be things that are great entry points for beginners would be awesome.
This is a difficult balance to strike, since we don't know what
experience beginners will have, but we want to cherry-pick tasks, and
include a big sprinkling of "non-code" tasks, as we often have people
coming that want to participate, but aren't C coders (yet).

And, yes, I know, that's not a very actionable comment. I'll think on
what specific tasks I'd like to see in there. The website comes to mind.

--Rich

On 02/15/2016 08:17 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> Since it's only been +1s, I plan to put the widget on our site today.
> It's on httpd.staging.apache.org if anyone wants to preview it, yell if
> you disagree :-)
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
> On 02/12/2016 09:11 PM, Luis Gil wrote:
>> love it!  
>>
>> El vie., 12 de febrero de 2016 13:20, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org
>> <mailto:humbed...@apache.org>> escribió:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> as some may know, ComDev is trialling a new thing called 'Help Wanted!'
>> at https://helpwanted.apache.org/
>>
>> I've added a few example entries for httpd, and I'm wondering if this is
>> something we would want to plug into our web site?
>>
>> You can see an example web site widget at
>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/wtest.html (top one shows httpd)
>>
>> It's an easy way to identify which tasks we'd love to see someone get
>> started on (and has the benefit of being able to assign difficulty
>> levels, skills needed etc to a task), and judging from the input on the
>> existing tasks, it seems to attract people towards projects.
>>
>> Thoughts? flames? snark? :)
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>> -
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>> -- 
>>
>> Luis J.G
>>
> 


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Re: svn commit: r1725339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/index.xml.es

[Rich Bowen]

On 01/20/2016 11:09 AM, André Malo wrote:
> * Mike Rumph wrote:
> 
>> Is there some reason why the license information is not translated into
>> Spanish?
> 
> Yes. It would not have any legal power. There is no official translation of 
> the apache license (AFAIK).


In particular, in order to provide a translation, we would either need
to retain an attorney to do the translation, or make it abundantly clear
that the translation is NOT a legal document.


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Re: mod_fcgid and broken doc links

[Rich Bowen]

On 01/13/2016 12:28 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:

> The reason for mod_ftp and mod_fcgid separate builds was historically
> that the same module, releasing on a different calendar than httpd, have
> been build-able independently against 2.0, 2.2 or 2.4.  Maintaining the 
> sources across the different branches was also something of a PITA.
> 
> Maybe more significantly, mod_proxy_fcgi was our 'adopted' solution 
> to the fcgi case.  mod_fcgid is a different beast with process pool 
> management. I was always under the impression that for 2.4 and later, 
> we collectively wanted to express process pools independently of the
> mod_proxy_fcgi structure, much like we and tomcat would love to see
> folks use mod_proxy_http or _ajp rather than mod_jk.
> 
> mod_ftp clearly isn't http:// so it never quite felt appropriate in that
> tree, but then again neither is mod_proxy_ajp :)  Which goes to the
> gist of it all, code bloat.  We've successfully only killed a tiny handful
> of modules in our entire history (imagemap, mem_cache etc). 

mod_imagemap still lives on in trunk. As does mod_cern_meta.

Point taken.

> So once merge to trunk, we own that code bloat for a very long time,
> but if it exists separate these can be enhanced or retired based on
> our desires.  E.g. if mod_aspdotnet had lived in modules/os/win32/
> we would still probably be shipping it, irrespective of how out of date
> that module becomes.
> 
> I can see us moving those modules into trunk (not 2.4), retaining the
> mmn tests for 2.2 and 2.4 compat, and then deriving an fcgid release
> out of trunk/modules/fcgid/.  But I'm not clear why we would want to
> maintain the duplication between mod_proxy_fcgi and mod_fcgid?
> Individually they get little enough attention as it is.

Yes, it would be nice to merge them, from the perspective of explaining
things to users.

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mod_fcgid and broken doc links

[Rich Bowen]

mod_fcgid is in a separate repo from the main httpd tree, due to
historical reasons. I presume there are good reasons for this. JimJag
suggested on IRC it's due to its independent release cycle.

Be that as it may, because it uses the standard documentation tools for
the module docs, https://httpd.apache.org/mod_fcgid/mod/mod_fcgid.html
is full of broken links. In particular, try any of the directive and
links to other modules - try the mod_cgi or AddHandler links in the
intro paragraph, and you'll see immediately what the problem is.

Now, we could of course have a separate version of the docs building
tools just for this module, or we could patch the doc manually, but I
was wondering, if there's no strong current reason for the module to be
kept separate, can we please move it into the main httpd tree?

(Note that exactly the same situation applies to mod_ftp, but there's
just fewer links from that doc so we don't hear it as often.)

--Rich

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[ANNOUNCE] CFP open for ApacheCon North America 2016

[Rich Bowen]

Community growth starts by talking with those interested in your
project. ApacheCon North America is coming, are you?

We are delighted to announce that the Call For Presentations (CFP) is
now open for ApacheCon North America. You can submit your proposed
sessions at
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/program/cfp
for big data talks and
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
for all other topics.

ApacheCon North America will be held in Vancouver, Canada, May 9-13th
2016. ApacheCon has been running every year since 2000, and is the place
to build your project communities.

While we will consider individual talks we prefer to see related
sessions that are likely to draw users and community members. When
submitting your talk work with your project community and with related
communities to come up with a full program that will walk attendees
through the basics and on into mastery of your project in example use
cases. Content that introduces what's new in your latest release is also
of particular interest, especially when it builds upon existing well
know application models. The goal should be to showcase your project in
ways that will attract participants and encourage engagement in your
community, Please remember to involve your whole project community (user
and dev lists) when building content. This is your chance to create a
project specific event within the broader ApacheCon conference.

Content at ApacheCon North America will be cross-promoted as
mini-conferences, such as ApacheCon Big Data, and ApacheCon Mobile, so
be sure to indicate which larger category your proposed sessions fit into.

Finally, please plan to attend ApacheCon, even if you're not proposing a
talk. The biggest value of the event is community building, and we count
on you to make it a place where your project community is likely to
congregate, not just for the technical content in sessions, but for
hackathons, project summits, and good old fashioned face-to-face networking.

-- 
rbo...@apache.org
http://apache.org/

[ANNOUNCE] CFP open for ApacheCon North America 2016

[Rich Bowen]

Community growth starts by talking with those interested in your
project. ApacheCon North America is coming, are you?

We are delighted to announce that the Call For Presentations (CFP) is
now open for ApacheCon North America. You can submit your proposed
sessions at
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/program/cfp
for big data talks and
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
for all other topics.

ApacheCon North America will be held in Vancouver, Canada, May 9-13th
2016. ApacheCon has been running every year since 2000, and is the place
to build your project communities.

While we will consider individual talks we prefer to see related
sessions that are likely to draw users and community members. When
submitting your talk work with your project community and with related
communities to come up with a full program that will walk attendees
through the basics and on into mastery of your project in example use
cases. Content that introduces what's new in your latest release is also
of particular interest, especially when it builds upon existing well
know application models. The goal should be to showcase your project in
ways that will attract participants and encourage engagement in your
community, Please remember to involve your whole project community (user
and dev lists) when building content. This is your chance to create a
project specific event within the broader ApacheCon conference.

Content at ApacheCon North America will be cross-promoted as
mini-conferences, such as ApacheCon Big Data, and ApacheCon Mobile, so
be sure to indicate which larger category your proposed sessions fit into.

Finally, please plan to attend ApacheCon, even if you're not proposing a
talk. The biggest value of the event is community building, and we count
on you to make it a place where your project community is likely to
congregate, not just for the technical content in sessions, but for
hackathons, project summits, and good old fashioned face-to-face networking.

-- 
rbo...@apache.org
http://apache.org/

[ANNOUNCE] CFP open for ApacheCon North America 2016

[Rich Bowen]

Community growth starts by talking with those interested in your
project. ApacheCon North America is coming, are you?

We are delighted to announce that the Call For Presentations (CFP) is
now open for ApacheCon North America. You can submit your proposed
sessions at
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-north-america/program/cfp
for big data talks and
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
for all other topics.

ApacheCon North America will be held in Vancouver, Canada, May 9-13th
2016. ApacheCon has been running every year since 2000, and is the place
to build your project communities.

While we will consider individual talks we prefer to see related
sessions that are likely to draw users and community members. When
submitting your talk work with your project community and with related
communities to come up with a full program that will walk attendees
through the basics and on into mastery of your project in example use
cases. Content that introduces what's new in your latest release is also
of particular interest, especially when it builds upon existing well
know application models. The goal should be to showcase your project in
ways that will attract participants and encourage engagement in your
community, Please remember to involve your whole project community (user
and dev lists) when building content. This is your chance to create a
project specific event within the broader ApacheCon conference.

Content at ApacheCon North America will be cross-promoted as
mini-conferences, such as ApacheCon Big Data, and ApacheCon Mobile, so
be sure to indicate which larger category your proposed sessions fit into.

Finally, please plan to attend ApacheCon, even if you're not proposing a
talk. The biggest value of the event is community building, and we count
on you to make it a place where your project community is likely to
congregate, not just for the technical content in sessions, but for
hackathons, project summits, and good old fashioned face-to-face networking.

-- 
rbo...@apache.org
http://apache.org/

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

[Rich Bowen]

On 05/28/2015 03:54 PM, Jim Riggs wrote:

On 28 May 2015, at 14:30, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

Am 28.05.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Rich Bowen:

On 05/27/2015 05:38 PM, olli hauer wrote:

- for long time there was no working mod_php module for 2.4, and
changing to
   php-fpm was not for everyone a solution.


In my experience, the only reason that php-fpm wasn't a solution for
everyone is that it was poorly documented. We could still stand to do
better there, but php-fpm is, in fact, a solution for everyone


no, because it does not support php_admin_flag and php_admin_value inside of 
Directory and so would require re-design environments with many hundrets of vhosts running for 
many years that way with automatic deployment of such rules depending on the target application


Having to expend effort (e.g. re-design/update config and deployment) to 
switch/update/upgrade to a new paradigm does not, IMO, mean that it's not a 
solution for everyone. Anyone can take the time to implement and automate the 
switch. Once that effort has been spent, you should have nearly the same (maybe 
better) setup, with hopefully better security and resource utilization in many 
cases. All of those php_admin_* directives end up in a php-fpm conf file that 
can easily be automatically updated and deployed.

I'm certainly not saying that this work is trivial with many years of history, 
and it may not be for everyone, but it is certainly possible for anyone.

With fpm and mod_proxy_fcgi, I don't see myself ever using mod_php again, but 
that's just me.



It would be worth providing a bash/perl/python script that one could 
point at your config files and/or .htaccess files and poop out php-fpm 
conf files as part of the documentation. The advantages of moving from 
mod_php to php-fpm are not extolled enough.



--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

[Rich Bowen]

On 05/27/2015 05:38 PM, olli hauer wrote:

- for long time there was no working mod_php module for 2.4, and changing to
   php-fpm was not for everyone a solution.


In my experience, the only reason that php-fpm wasn't a solution for 
everyone is that it was poorly documented. We could still stand to do 
better there, but php-fpm is, in fact, a solution for everyone.


--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: Version check idea

[Rich Bowen]

On 04/21/2015 10:13 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote:

On 04/21/2015 09:55 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

For comment: What do people think about adding the capability that
when httpd is started, it tries to access
http://httpd.apache.org/doap.rdf
to check its version number with the latest one referred to in that
file and, if a newer one exists, it prints out a little message
in the error.log (or stderr)...


Wild assertion: Most people don't get their httpd build from us, so it
will be meaningless for them (i.e., says out-of-date the first day they
fire up their shiny new Fedora-latest/Ubuntu-latest/etc.).



Provide either a configuration option, or other easy way for packagers 
to alter where ET phones home, to compensate for that reality.


--Rich

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: Apache (httpd) Wiki

[Rich Bowen]

On 04/22/2015 10:53 AM, Tom Browder wrote:

There is an error on this page which is immutable and cannot be
edited by an ordinary user (even logged in):

   https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FileSystemPermissions

The error is in this the last line:

What we've done here is to set all files to 640, or rw-r--r-- and
directories to rwxr-x---. Because the group web-content is applied
to all the files and directories, httpd can read these files, but
cannot write to them.

The error phrase is here:

  set all files to 640, or rw-r--r--

which should read:

  set all files to 640, or rw-r-



Thanks. Fixed.



--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Happy 20th Birthday, httpd

[Rich Bowen]

For those that missed ApacheCon last week in Austin, I wanted to share a 
few things.


This year marks the 20th birthday of the Apache httpd project (or late 
last year, depending on how you count) and so we had a little 
celebration. The feather that was made for the Apache conference in 1998 
- https://www.flickr.com/photos/iamamoose/63963722/ - was at ApacheCon, 
and we tried to stage the same photo again, as much as was possible: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RichBowen/posts/Gfs1Ek6MWqu


We also took pictures with all of the httpd committers who were present 
(although I expect we missed a few people.) : 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rbowen/sets/72157651553317030/


And, we had a birthday cake

https://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxfoundation/17157208981/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxfoundation/16537678153/

There's lots more ApacheCon photos here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxfoundation/sets/72157651931911042


We're very proud of what we've accomplished over the last 20 years, and 
I'm pretty excited about the next 20. Thank you, every one of you, for 
being part of this journey, whether you've been here one day or the 
whole 20 years.


--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Photos at ApacheCon

[Rich Bowen]

httpd developers,

If you're at ApacheCon, please try to drop by the registration desk at 
3:50 for a photo of the httpd committers with The Feather


Context - https://www.flickr.com/photos/iamamoose/63963722/

We're going to take several photos with the feather to recreate this 
photo from 1998, with an updated httpd dev team.


Thanks!



--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: Photos at ApacheCon

[Rich Bowen]

A huge thank you to those who managed to show up on such short notice.

The photos are at 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rbowen/sets/72157651553317030/


--Rich

On 04/14/2015 03:32 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:

httpd developers,

If you're at ApacheCon, please try to drop by the registration desk at
3:50 for a photo of the httpd committers with The Feather

Context - https://www.flickr.com/photos/iamamoose/63963722/

We're going to take several photos with the feather to recreate this
photo from 1998, with an updated httpd dev team.

Thanks!






--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

ApacheCon North America, just 3 weeks away!

[Rich Bowen]

Dear Apache httpd enthusiast,

In just a few weeks, we'll be holding ApacheCon in Austin, Texas, and 
we'd love to have you in attendance. You can save $300 on admission by 
registering NOW, since the early bird price ends on the 21st.


Register at http://s.apache.org/acna2015-reg

ApacheCon this year celebrates the 20th birthday of the Apache HTTP 
Server, and we'll have Brian Behlendorf, who started this whole thing, 
keynoting for us, and you'll have a chance to meet some of the original 
Apache Group, who will be there to celebrate with us.


We've got 7 tracks of great talks, as well as BOFs, the Apache BarCamp, 
project-specific hack events, and evening events where you can deepen 
your connection with the larger Apache community. See the full schedule 
at http://apacheconna2015.sched.org/


And if you have any questions, comments, or just want to hang out with 
us before and during the event, follow us on Twitter - @apachecon - or 
drop by #apachecon on the Freenode IRC network.


Hope to see you in Austin!

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

[APACHECON] Proposed httpd (and related) track

[Rich Bowen]

Here's my proposed httpd (and related) track. If anyone has any 
objections, changes, suggestions, whatever, please speak up. Thanks.



Day 1:

* Panel: The Apache Group greybeards: If I'd only known then (Don’t yet 
have confirmation of who’s actually going to be there. Brian has 
declined to speak on such a panel.) Note if that these folks don't show 
up, we'll need to find something to fill this slot with. Brian has 
confirmed that he'll attend, but so far I don't have an absolute 
confirmation from anybody else from that era.


* What's New In Apache HTTPD 2.4 - jimjag - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4014


* mod_rewrite and friends - rbowen - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/1528/4013


* The State of TLS on Apache HTTP Server - wrowe - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4346


* Reverse Proxy with Apache HTTPD 2.4: The hidden gem - jimjag - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4015


*  The mod_proxy cookbook -  Daniel Ruggeri - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/3816



Day 2:


* Apache HTTP Configuration API for Developers - wrowe - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4347


* Begone mod_php! - Jim Riggs - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4208


* A Peek at PHP 7 - John Coggeshall - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4226


* Using Apache Traffic Server to cache Live TV - Mark Torluemke - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4180


* Traffic Server on the Edge - Alan Carroll - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4133


* Replacing Squid with Apache Traffic Server for Yahoo - Shu Kit Chan - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4118


Day 3 - TOMCAT


* Intro to Load-Balancing Tomcat with httpd and mod_jk - Christopher 
Schultz - http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4206


* Tomcat clustering: Part 1 - Reverse Proxies - Mark Thomas - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4053


* Tomcat clustering: Part 2 - Load-balancing - Mark Thomas - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4054


* Tomcat clustering: Part 3 - Session Replication - Mark Thomas - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/4055


* Monitoring Apache Tomcat - Christopher Schultz - 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/3847


* Choosing tomcat connectors: internals and performances - Jean-Frederic 
Clere - http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/3839




--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon