Does anybody know if I put a mapping on a slave server (two server set-up)
to point to the verity index on the master server whether this will have
any/a noticable impact on performance of the master server?
Does it impact the performance at all or is it just using the index from the
master and
I believe Ctrl. + Space is the closest thing to a funcion insert hot-key.
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From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: [ cf-dev ] ValueList
Isn't ValueList() a bloody great function?
I've always known about it
quick question,
if I pass a query to a function like thus:
myQuery = querynew(line_id);
functionUseQuery(myQuery);
is that query passed as a duplicate or by reference? I can't remember.
ta muchos.
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It will affect performance because u are accessing files over a network
after all, which is slower than on the same machine. Shouldn't really
make that much difference unless it gets searched a lot tho.
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ah, its ok, did a wee test in the end.
fyi, they're passed as *reference*, as the following shows:
cfscript
myQuery = querynew(line_id);
queryaddrow(myQuery);
querysetcell(myQuery, line_id, 1);
function changeQuery(QueryIn) {
QuerySetCell(QueryIn, line_id, 2, 1);
}
/cfscript
cfdump
Ah ha!!! Now why is that so well hidden, and why isn't there a right
click option for it.
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I believe Ctrl. + Space is
I also created an Extension for DWMX which you can get at the exchange which
adds Right-Click Insert Epxression cababilities; its also fully extensible
to any language you want to insert an expression for.
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Whilst on the subject, I usually store application variables as
structures and was wondering how you correctly lock a reference to one
of those application variables. If you do this:
cflock scope=application type=readonly timeout=5
cfset database = application.database
/cflock
cfquery
why would you want to do a StructCopy?
surely... application.database[] or application.database.foo would do?
I think in these situations its probably best to throw them into the request
scope.
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Sent: 15 September 2003
Server was slow today so I took a lokk at the processor utilisation and
JRUN was at 100%. I stopped all CF services and processor usage returned
to a normal level. I re-started the services one by one and when I
re-started the CF application service the server re-started?
What is going on. Can
you could always use duplicate()...
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:42 AM
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Whilst on the subject, I usually store application
why would you want to do a StructCopy?
surely... application.database[] or application.database.foo would
do?
Yeah, if you only wanted to access one of the variables in the
structure, but there are several instances where I want a handful.
Rather than just assign those to a range of local
Ah, gotcha...did wonder :-)
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why would you want to do a StructCopy?
surely...
you could always use duplicate()...
Yeah, I was really just asking to see if it was actually needed or not.
My guess is yes...
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Personally I do use duplicate when making a copy of any complex variable!
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you could always use
Aidan, I usually do what you're doing, but I'll just duplicate() so that I
have a fresh local copy, and then update the data in that and commit changes
back to shared scope afterwards simply by duplicating back and overwriting
that shared scope struct.
eg, I'll store everything in session.user
Aidan, I usually do what you're doing, but I'll just duplicate() so
that
[snip]
Ah, cule -- thanks for the confirmation.
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People,
One of the sites I am working on gets its data 'scraped' for use in a piece
of software developed by a competitor. They use an http get or post from an
end users machine so it's impossible to tell the software apart from any
other user.
Has anyone here any advice on what methods to use
- keep changing the design (or just HTML) so that they have to change their
parsing code
- begin legal action if you can prove the data is yours.
#1 is most likely to be effective, they'll get tired of having to change
their code.
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From: Peter Dray [mailto:[EMAIL
Going just on what you posted
Would it be possible to do a check on CGI.HTTP_REFERER contains the
current domain name ?
So only pages in the site can call subpages and they cannot be called
direct ?
Or are they just viewing a dynamic page ? that anyone can see ?
After all .. file - save as ;)
Try making a graphic on the fly with a special code word in it that they
have to enter. When you generate the code word, store it in a server-side
session variable which is used to compare the user's input when the form is
posted.
Deform the graphic as much as possible so that OCR algorithms will
One of the sites I am working on gets its data 'scraped' for use in a
piece
of software developed by a competitor. They use an http get or post
from an
end users machine so it's impossible to tell the software apart from
any
other user.
If it's impossible to distinguish your competitors
Maybe use cookies? In other words, get and set cookies on the site, and the
software *may* not be able to handle the fact that cookies are being
used...?
Also could use session management in a similar way... Following on from
that...
another way around it is to obfuscate the URL so that the
So far, as a coder, I know I can get around all these suggestions in an
automated process, except for the code word graphic.
However, it's not me who's stealing it, so if it is enough to stop the
competitor then you will have achieved your goal.
- Peter
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From: Paul
Too much pain. We use a clustered environment and get roughly 29,000
searches a day on this site
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From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 13:47
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Stopping 'db scrapes'
Try making a graphic on
Rich:
- keep changing the design (or just HTML) so that they have to change
their
parsing code
This hasn't stopped them so far, we even went as far as 'randomising' the
names of the query parameters used in the search that gets scraped for each
visit, and they cracked the formula.
Paul:
Are there any good free mysql ADMIN tools for windows ?
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We put http_referer check in all our code where we do not people link
directly to pages or stealing data.
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This hasn't stopped them so far, we even went as far as
'randomising' the
names of the query parameters used in the search that gets
scraped for each
visit, and they cracked the formula.
if your site has a valid copyright statement about the use of the data then
probably the only thing you
So, the cluster doesn't support sticky sessions or shared session data (eg.
database)?
Oh well.
It sounds like they're a really dedicated bunch though. Obscurity is not
security as they say.
Guess you're going to have to take an offensive stance then instead, gather
evidence, catch them out red
We put http_referer check in all our code where we do not people link
directly to pages or stealing data.
that only works for browsers that actually pass the http_referer, and not
all do. Norton firewalls also scramble the http_referer field so that its
garbage and comes out as HTTP_WEFERER,
Hmm,
Then You are going to look to having some sort of user interaction step
That cannot be replicated by a tool (like the password image suggestion)
Or as suggested you have session management on the application and you
check
For that in order to run the search -
-Original
have you tried mysql cc? you can get it from:
http://www.mysql.com/products/mysqlcc/index.html
or you could install apache (or other webserver) with php and run
myphpadmin:
http://www.mysql.com/portal/software/item-59.html
hth
tom
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From: Snake Hollywood [EMAIL
PHP myadmin Rocks
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Mysql gui
have you tried mysql cc? you can get it from:
http://www.mysql.com/products/mysqlcc/index.html
or you could
I got that wrong - and I use it:) doh... the link is good though!
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Mysql gui
PHP myadmin Rocks
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From: Tom Smith
You can also block their IP address in IIS
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PHP myadmin Rocks
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From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
Sql yog
http://www.sqlyog.com
VERY VERY VERY good
Paul
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From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 14:09
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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Mysql gui
Are there any good free mysql ADMIN tools for windows ?
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Sql yog
http://www.sqlyog.com
VERY VERY VERY good
Oh well... SQLyog stopped being freeware a few months back (worst luck)...
http://www.webyog.com/sqlyog/index.html
Now you have to pay for it, but imho it's STILL better than PHPMyAdmin (I'm
using a free version v3.11 and it's
Wtf ?
Bad outlook bad bad bad bad
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From: Paul Fennell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 14:18
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Stopping 'db scrapes'
Hmm,
Then You are going to look to having some sort of user interaction step
That cannot
... but then all they'd do is get a dial-up account for this.
:S
That must be pretty valuable content.
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From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 14:26
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
Get legal with them, but first get the proof. Do this, if possible, by
planting information (or unique strings). This is what US police do to catch
people illegally scanning police frequencies (they announce a UFO sighting
somewhere remote and then arrest anyone who turns up looking).
Paolo
Well what have u got in the form of logfiles and other info -
This kinda has my attention after all the whole idea of dynamic sites is
to provide content to client browsers and you talking in effect to stop
or hinder that in some manner - as your client is in fact a tool that
is spoofing or
or hinder that in some manner - as your client is in fact
a tool that
is spoofing or mimicking a client browser it has to have in some
Way a noticeable pattern to its behaviour
not necessarily. What if the competitor has just hired someone to sit there
and grab all the data using just a
ais there's that .. but that ain't wot he said :)
He said there be a tool thats doing it :)
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From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 14:47
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Stopping 'db scrapes'
or hinder that in some manner
That's the madness of it all, it's just a property portal but we get payment
for referral to agencies to the suits are up in arms about it.
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
I'm not installing php.
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ais there's that .. but that ain't wot he said :)
He said there be a tool thatÂ’s doing it :)
annoying_pedant_mode
well, he didn't:
They use an http get or post from an
end users machine so it's impossible to tell the software apart from any
other user.
This could simply be someone sitting
It definitely uses almost live data. Properties added to our database turn
up on theirs a day or so later.
This is us: www.primelocation.com
This is them: www.propertysearch.com
If you can be arsed try the same property search on both
Please excuse the horrendous design, not guilty.
heh - from their site:
The site is designed as a tool for estate agents and valuers, as it
searches the main property portals in the UK, removing the need to repeat
searches on the top sites.
cheeky, they even admit it.
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From: Peter Dray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bear in mind that claiming that a site scrapes another is pretty bad without
evidence, I don't think you should let us know who the culprit is (even
though you already have)...
Apart from that, is the content actually copyrighted by your website, or is
it copyrighted by the agency? Does the
Like that is it :)
quote
What happens is the end user buys this bit of software from the
competitor and this software sends a request to our sites search engine
/quote
While I agree with you the its just a call the whole point is there
could ? be away of telling them apart hence my intrest
and more interesting:
The Software enables the User to make Searches. The User acknowledges that
the Software shall run on the User's own computer equipment and shall in
respect of each Search make a unique and current request of each Property
Portal.
So their users download software that make
heh - from their site:
The site is designed as a tool for estate agents and
valuers, as it searches the main property portals in the UK,
removing the need to repeat searches on the top sites.
cheeky, they even admit it.
And that MAY actually keep them safe from some legal action...
Id go with that one
As a service have the data available for purchase as that will also give
you a legal edge
In regard to a product thats available for purchase
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From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 15:12
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loser
*runaway*
then try MySQLGui
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Mysql gui
I'm not installing php.
if theres a couple of days delay, doesn't it suggest that they are doing the
scrape and then adding it to their own DB (otherwise new properties would
appear immediately if they were using a GET)
If so, you could ban try banning their IP range, either through IIS or CF +
CGI vars
Did that here
or take a look at mysqlCC, even thought it is a beta product ;P
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loser
*runaway*
then try MySQLGui
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Hi Everyone,
Just to let you know Ben Forta will be in London next week and will be
presenting at a user group meeting.
The date of the meeting is Wednesday 24th September.
For more information please visit the NEW website:
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See you all there.
Cheers
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From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Scottish CFUG
There's even a Bournemouth CFUG, but it was done by some
cowboys who have
Looks more like a marketing / sales tool! ;)
Haha!
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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Scottish CFUG
Anyone heard anything about a Scottish CFUG?
or take a look at mysqlCC, even thought it is a beta product ;P
I would agree that this is an excellent product as well... I use it on linux
but still slightly prefer sqlyog... Still, if you want free, then this is
the one you want.
Paul
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Looks more like a marketing / sales tool! ;)
Haha!
I also remember dbtools, that is also quite good.
www.dbtools.com.br
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Sent: 15 September 2003 15:13
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Mysql gui
or take a look at mysqlCC, even thought it is a beta product ;P
I have huge 3-5GB flat data files that need to be imported into a
database.
I know CF5 had no way to read files a line at a time and we had to write
a VB prob to do that.
Does CFMX have a way to read files in a line at a time rather than loa
dthe whole file into a variable ?
Russ Michaels
wouldn't you use the db's import routines (eg DTS) to do that instead? They
can handle large files better, as they're written for it.
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Can u run a DTS from CF ?
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written by our fella Simon Horwith himself:
(watch wrap)
http://www.cfcomet.com/SQL_Server/index.cfm?ArticleID=A51CB8F7-C297-4E80-92C
C7A8907B0A5B2
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Don't think so. You chould knock a java class to do this pretty easily.
Wouldn't it be better to do this outside cf? dts or a batch or whatever?
Justin
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Yes. http://www.teratech.com/ColdCuts/cutdetail.cfm?cutid=299
or cfexecute dtsrun.exe MyPackageName
Justin
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Can u run a
Don't think so. You chould knock a java class to do this pretty easily.
Wouldn't it be better to do this outside cf? dts or a batch or whatever?
Justin
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http://mysqlfront.venturemedia.de/index.php?s=9503bf12672368f1fd43045383a767
13act=STf=2t=328
mysqlfront though unsupported does a good swiss army job, never let me down
Colm
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From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 15:13
To: [EMAIL
I have huge 3-5GB flat data files that need to be imported into a
database.
I know CF5 had no way to read files a line at a time and we had to write
a VB prob to do that.
Does CFMX have a way to read files in a line at a time rather than loa
dthe whole file into a variable ?
-- I'd suggest
I have huge 3-5GB flat data files that need to be imported into a
database.
I know CF5 had no way to read files a line at a time and we had to write
a VB prob to do that.
Does CFMX have a way to read files in a line at a time rather than loa
dthe whole file into a variable ?
-- I'd suggest
Hello
Some of you may be thinking that mail to the dev/chat cfug lists
is being delayed. Whilst our mail server may occasionally take
more than 2 seconds to deliver all the mail, the main reason is
that you're address is not subscribed to the list, and that your
message gets deferred for
CGI.HTTP_REFERER isn't reliable... it's far too easy to spoof requests
coming from anywhere... though it may discourage them.
~Simon
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if you suspect the IP address changes and that the data on their site is
updated as recently as you say, they must be making frequent requests. I'd
stuff some code into Application.cfm that records the number of requests
made from any given IP address. Each hour (or two or three) log the data,
I second that vote!
it is a shame that development has stopped but it still works!
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Shedloads of spam... I am getting loads of those I am the king of siam
and I need your help to transfer 60 million pounds emails every day to
the list.
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