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2003-07-03 Thread Rich Wild
not that useful for the majority of sites. thats exactly why I think we need a big old air clearing about them. Rich -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 13:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so

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2003-07-03 Thread Simon Horwith
Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 13:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so CFC's... Hmmm, maybe they aren't discussed, because there aren't that many people who are able to use their full capabilities... What I mean by that, is how many

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2003-07-03 Thread Rich Wild
it comes time to implement Flash Remoting. In fact, my experience with component architecture and OOP in general is the reason I was pursued by a British Company in the first place. fantastic! there we go then. In the scripting (not programming) world of coldfusion, there's a lot of

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2003-07-03 Thread Justin MacCarthy
In the scripting (not programming) world of coldfusion, there's a lot of fear about OO. I find myself frustrated by the cfc are OO - but not OO, because I know OOP. Sometimes is easier not to know what your missing. I find a lot of times it quicker to write a EJB ! CFCs are great for tabular

RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so....

2003-07-03 Thread Rich Wild
=5 ) Rich -Original Message- From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 13:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so CFC's... Hmmm, maybe they aren't discussed, because there aren't that many people who are able

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2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnston
I am not sure if it's whether we use their full power or whether they are actually not that useful for the majority of sites. Its interesting. Many developers aren't sure whether their old apps should now be using CFCs, or any new ones should be, or whether they should be using them

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2003-07-03 Thread Simon Horwith
Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 14:32 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I am not sure if it's whether we use their full power or whether they are actually

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2003-07-03 Thread duncan . cumming
] tions.com cc: Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so 03/07/2003 14:39

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2003-07-03 Thread Ian Westbrook
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so this is a good debate. i think there's still a big market for ye olde CF 5. the beauty of CF used to be that a complete newbie could probably install the server and get their first CF page

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2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnston
to use Flash as a front end (which imho is actually far less useful to most of the CF Developers I know!). Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so

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2003-07-03 Thread rafe . fitzpatrick
I think Macromedia should speed their site up, I presume they're trying to show what can be done with CFMX, Flash etc. but it's so slow and the navigation's terrible. As for the product I was really excited about it, but I'm disappointed about the constant probelms i.e JSessions and cookies,

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2003-07-03 Thread Damian Watson
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2003-07-03 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Talking about Books.what are peoples recommendations for MX Books? other then the Walking Beard Editions? N -Original Message- From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I

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2003-07-03 Thread Paul Johnston
I totally agree Paul. As someone said a while back, not all CF developers have a programming background, without real world examples easliy available and well documented one ends up programming to what one knows. I assume most of us don't have time to be bogged down in learning from

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2003-07-03 Thread Justin MacCarthy
15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I totally agree Paul. As someone said a while back, not all CF developers have a programming background, without real world examples easliy available and well documented one ends up programming to what one knows

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2003-07-03 Thread Ashley . WHITING
: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I totally agree Paul. As someone said a while back, not all CF developers have a programming background, without real world examples easliy available and well documented one ends up programming to what one knows. I assume most of us don't have time

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2003-07-03 Thread Ashley . WHITING
to download components, it will take you weeks to find what you are looking for.. I reckon it's rubbish meself.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf

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2003-07-03 Thread Ashley . WHITING
Started with 5, moved on to MX recently. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so which version of CF are you using? Duncan Cumming

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2003-07-03 Thread Kola Oyedeji
: 03 July 2003 16:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so Started with 5, moved on to MX recently. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE

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2003-07-03 Thread Simon Horwith
] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I totally agree Paul. As someone said a while back, not all CF developers have a programming background, without real world examples easliy available and well documented one ends up programming to what one knows. I assume most of us don't have time to be bogged down

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2003-07-03 Thread Spike
] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFC's was RE: [ cf-dev ] so I totally agree Paul. As someone said a while back, not all CF developers have a programming background, without real world examples easliy available and well documented one ends up programming to what one knows. I assume most of us don't have time