Re: svn commit: r682270 - in /maven/site/branches/maven-2.1-doco: ./ maven-2.1-architectural-goals.apt

2008-08-04 Thread Ralph Goers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: jvanzyl Date: Sun Aug 3 23:39:35 2008 New Revision: 682270 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=682270view=rev Log: o starting collecting the wiki, apt, and oo3 doco that has been floating around and align it all and present a workable plan Added:

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Filtering 1.0-beta-1

2008-08-04 Thread Stephane Nicoll
Yes! +1 On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This release is to prepare for the release of Maven WAR Plugin. This is a new shared component, based on code from Maven Resources Plugin, so there are no issues fixed or left in JIRA. The goal of this

RE: [POLL] Default Value for Reports Output Encoding

2008-08-04 Thread Jörg Schaible
a) Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: Hi, While working on Report Encoding Configuration proposal [0], 2 options were discussed lately for default value [1]: a) use fixed UTF-8 encoding b) use same encoding as source files Both options seem viable: choosing between them will be a question of

Re: svn commit: r682249 - /maven/site/trunk/src/site/site.xml

2008-08-04 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Jason van Zyl ha scritto: On 3-Aug-08, at 9:05 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 04/08/2008, at 1:46 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Look at the analytics, zero traffic. I didn't expect them to be high on traffic, but you should put them somewhere else before dumping them outright. They are not low,

Re: bouncycastle in central was: Mojo for validating PGP signature

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Hobson
2008/8/4 Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like this is not going to get resolved any time soon. In the meantime, I'll submit an upload request with the above changes if I hear no objections. I decided not to rock the boat, so kept the group id as 'bouncycastle' and the incorrect

Re: [NOTICE] Releasing our parent POMs

2008-08-04 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
I'll upgrade parents in the trunk to see if we don't have issues with those new versions. The major part of our plugins are always using maven-plugins 11 cheers Arnaud On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi It's time to start releasing our parent POMs:

Re: bouncycastle in central was: Mojo for validating PGP signature

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Hobson
2008/7/31 Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Was any consensus reached regarding uploading bouncycastle 140 to central? I was about to submit an upload request and then recalled this discussion. Whilst we're doing this, shall we fix the following?: - use org.bouncycastle group id rather than

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Deploy Plugin v2.4

2008-08-04 Thread Marat Radchenko
+1 2008/8/3 Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's time to release the Deploy plugin. We solved 3 issues and added 1 new feature: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=13110styleName=TextprojectId=11131Create=Create * [MDEPLOY-45] - Classifier not supported by

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Deploy Plugin v2.4

2008-08-04 Thread Emmanuel Venisse
+1 Emmanuel On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time to release the Deploy plugin. We solved 3 issues and added 1 new feature: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=13110styleName=TextprojectId=11131Create=Create * [MDEPLOY-45]

RE: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi, John Casey wrote: Hi, Here's your daily dose of Maven 2.0.10! I've fixed the regressions pointed out in RC4, and added integration tests to guard against their reintroduction. The new release candidate can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~jdcasey/stage/apache-maven/2.0.10-RC

Re: [POLL] Default Value for Reports Output Encoding

2008-08-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
This is my objection to basing it on the source encoding. My preference is to pick output encoding as UTF-8 with a simple means to change it. Source encoding is a different matter. Some source files should never be UTF-8 encoded and yet the output should not be encoded in the same encoding...

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
This may have to do with some very inefficient code I had to put in to solve MNG-3530. It's doing interpolation of the build section of the POM per-plugin now, and restoring it to the dynamic state just after each plugin executes. This was necessary to allow modifications to the project

Managing dependency scopes

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Hobson
Hi there, Is there any good reason why dependencyManagement blocks can't consist of just groupId, artifactId and scope? It seems that version is mandatory, even though I just want to manage the scope and don't care about the actual version being used. Cheers, Mark

RE: Build failed in Hudson: maven-eclipse-plugin-trunk Maven Eclipse Plugin #3

2008-08-04 Thread Brian E. Fox
Is it failing in the maven-plugins tree too? It looks like the plugin isn't inheriting from the proper parent so that I can override the distMgt section to deploy to Nexus. It's currently going against apache.snapshots. -Original Message- From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Build failed in Hudson: maven-eclipse-plugin-trunk Maven Eclipse Plugin #3

2008-08-04 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Brian E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Is it failing in the maven-plugins tree too? It looks like the plugin isn't inheriting from the proper parent so that I can override the distMgt section to deploy to Nexus. It's currently going against apache.snapshots. ok

Re: Managing dependency scopes

2008-08-04 Thread Brett Porter
That's probably historical since I don't know if it originally managed scopes. Cheers, Brett On 04/08/2008, at 11:31 PM, Mark Hobson wrote: Hi there, Is there any good reason why dependencyManagement blocks can't consist of just groupId, artifactId and scope? It seems that version is

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Brett Porter
Hey John, Is it necessary for the project on every execution? I thought this was just for ${reactorProjects} - which could be handled on demand in the PPEE? It might be worth running the profiler over it too to see if there are any particular hotspots that could improved regardless. -

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
Brett, This change was in place long before the javadoc plugin problem of the last RC. The problem happens when forking at times, too, since those forked lifecycles sometimes require alternative target directory, etc. If that information has already been interpolated, changeing target

Re: Managing dependency scopes

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Hobson
2008/8/4 Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's probably historical since I don't know if it originally managed scopes. Thanks, I've raised MNG-3695 to track this: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3695 Mark - To

Re: svn commit: r682249 - /maven/site/trunk/src/site/site.xml

2008-08-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
Where it was, or not there at all yielded the same net result. There's nothing to understand about the links, it's clear what their purpose is which is to promote the ASF. I have no problem with that. I started reclaiming real estate on the site that was yielding no results. I wasn't

Re: Incomplete classpath due to scope resolution for test/provided

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Hobson
2008/7/28 Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You're right that provided is not transitive, although this example relates to scope resolution which occurs when an artifacts has two different scopes. See:

RE: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Brian E. Fox
I agree it should be right, but a 3x hit in build times isn't acceptable. Given the alternative, I would probably boot those issues to 2.1 where they can be handled correctly. The majority of users probably aren't getting hit by these bugs, so forcing the performance hit on them will appear as

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Invoker version 2.0.9

2008-08-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 4-Aug-08, at 5:49 AM, John Casey wrote: +1 Dennis Lundberg wrote: Hi, This release is to prepare for the release of Maven Invoker Plugin, which is needed by many projects. We solved 1 issue: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11761styleName=Htmlversion=14369

Re: svn commit: r682270 - in /maven/site/branches/maven-2.1-doco: ./ maven-2.1-architectural-goals.apt

2008-08-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
In 2.1 practically I think it means supporting multiple versions of the POM. Otherwise or we'll have some serious adoption problems. People need to be able to switch over to 2.1 without changing their POMs or there will be a hue and a cry of such enormous volume we'll get eviscerated.

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
The problem is, this was a regression issue, based on real improvements we made to the interpolation code in 2.0.9. To boot these issues to 2.1, we'd need to find a way to reintroduce buggy handling of build paths into the interpolator. Brian E. Fox wrote: I agree it should be right, but

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
If we had more options WRT parsing POM fragments using the generated modello code, it might be possible to do on-demand interpolation during expression evaluation for plugin instance configuration...though I'm not sure how much that would help. BTW, I don't know for a fact this is the hot

Re: svn commit: r682270 - in /maven/site/branches/maven-2.1-doco: ./ maven-2.1-architectural-goals.apt

2008-08-04 Thread Ralph Goers
Jason van Zyl wrote: In 2.1 practically I think it means supporting multiple versions of the POM. Otherwise or we'll have some serious adoption problems. People need to be able to switch over to 2.1 without changing their POMs or there will be a hue and a cry of such enormous volume we'll

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
I've checked the maven core and plugins builds, and they're both running around 30s longer than with 2.0.9, with slightly less memory consumption. Other builds I've tried are running nearer to +15s over 2.0.9. Granted, these aren't huge builds, but neither are they the 3X time increase over

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Paul Benedict
I agree with John Casey that a predictable fix is more important than a speedy build time. However, I am surprised that the one guy's build went from 45m to 3 hours! That's a huge leap. The only thing I can suggest is to pull something out of the Microsoft Windows development book: the use of

RE: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Brian E. Fox
Ok if it's a modest change then that's ok. I was scared by that 3x change but since we aren't seeing that elsewhere, then lets go forward with the RC and see if anyone else has issues. -Original Message- From: John Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:49 PM

Re: Maven 2.0.10-RC5

2008-08-04 Thread Brett Porter
I think it's something to put in the RC post, focus on testing: - interpolation - deployment and proxies - any reproducible, consistent speed degradation It would probably still be worth inspecting the performance with a tool sucha s yourkit... Jörg is there any chance you could do that on

Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable

2008-08-04 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, As I shift back to looking at 2.1-alpha-1 regressions in JIRA and the changes on trunk so far, I was hoping we could have a once off meeting in IRC to gather up who's working on what, where we are going next, and where we stand for a release. I don't want to waste a bunch of time

Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable

2008-08-04 Thread John Casey
I can be there, I think. Brett Porter wrote: Hi, As I shift back to looking at 2.1-alpha-1 regressions in JIRA and the changes on trunk so far, I was hoping we could have a once off meeting in IRC to gather up who's working on what, where we are going next, and where we stand for a release.