Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I'd like to gradually start migrating some of these to java 1.5. Doing so will effectively prevent any java 1.4 clients from upgrading. It's my opinion that this move will effectively be the end of java all 1.4 support. (The surefire fork is the only declared java 1.3/1.4 (!) support left that I

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Olivier Lamy
no objections. Onward ! 2011/6/9 Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com: I'd like to gradually start migrating some of these to java 1.5. Doing so will effectively prevent any java 1.4 clients from upgrading. It's my opinion that this move will effectively be the end of java all 1.4

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
Will this affect toolchains from using the older javac and running tests with older jvms? toolchains is the recommended way to compile with older java versions and run tests with older java versions... I see no reason, as long as toolchains based invoking of older java versions is not affected,

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 for dropping java 1.4 support. Since these projects are technically not ASF ... Actually I'd go further one step: plexus has been developed to 90% by ASF committers. So I'd rather go and move plexus over to maven completely while upgrading to java 1.5 and rewrite/drop parts with uncertain

[VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools Version 2.8

2011-06-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
Hi, We solved 5 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11139styleName=Htmlversion=17146 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=11139status=1 Staging repo:

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Actually I'd go further one step: plexus has been developed to 90% by ASF committers. So I'd rather go and move plexus over to maven completely while upgrading to java 1.5 and rewrite/drop parts with uncertain provenience. I don't really see the point of all this moving stuff around, are we

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Interesting question. I don't know the answer ;) Are there any formalized test benches (IT's or similar) for the toolchains stuff ? Easiest thing in the world to just try ;) Kristian to., 09.06.2011 kl. 10.41 +0100, skrev Stephen Connolly: Will this affect toolchains from using the older

CI job for Maven Indexer unable to deploy

2011-06-09 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Hi there, according to [1], the build of Indexer with latest changes went fine, but the deployment to RAO failed with 401. Could someone take a peek and verify the CI job's settings.xml? I don't have the needed karma it seems... [1]

Re: CI job for Maven Indexer unable to deploy

2011-06-09 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Um, rollback this below, next builds just deployed fine. O_o https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-indexer/9/ Thanks, ~t~ 2011/6/9 Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net Hi there, according to [1], the build of Indexer with latest changes went fine, but the deployment

[VOTE] Release Maven Indexer version 4.1.1

2011-06-09 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Hi, Current 4.1.1 version is mostly bugfix release for latest 4.0.1 improving indexer robustness, lessen unnecessary IO burden and smaller POM fixes regarding site publishing. We solved 5 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12112version=17410 There are still a

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Indexer version 4.1.1

2011-06-09 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Sorry, I meant to say Current 4.1.1 version is mostly bugfix release for latest 4.1.0, NOT 4.0.1. 2011/6/9 Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net: Current 4.1.1 version is mostly bugfix release for latest 4.0.1 improving indexer robustness, lessen unnecessary IO burden and smaller POM fixes

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools Version 2.8

2011-06-09 Thread Arnaud Héritier
+1 Arnaud On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We solved 5 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11139styleName=Htmlversion=17146 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread John Casey
CC'ing dev@: I hope the PMC doesn't mind. We've been spending some time on-and-off talking about how we can open up development in the Maven core, and see if we can attract some fresh minds and ideas. I'd like to copy a list of some things we've been talking about, and open it up to anyone

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread John Casey
Totally agree, onward and upward! On 6/9/11 5:30 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: I'd like to gradually start migrating some of these to java 1.5. Doing so will effectively prevent any java 1.4 clients from upgrading. It's my opinion that this move will effectively be the end of java all 1.4

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread John Casey
On 6/9/11 6:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: It was like that at codehaus, and it still works that way. Sorry to display my ignorance, but I haven't done much with the plexus-* code in awhile... Other than the container, where is the plexus-compiler stuff now, if not codehaus? Are we

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Cobb, Randal
Hello, I've only been lurking on the dev@ list for a couple of months, so, some of these may have already been asked, shot-down, stomped on like a cockroach, etc. but I've used maven for a couple of years now and wondered I caveat my requests/suggestions with: These could already be

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Jörg Schaible
Stephen Connolly wrote: Will this affect toolchains from using the older javac and running tests with older jvms? toolchains is the recommended way to compile with older java versions and run tests with older java versions... I see no reason, as long as toolchains based invoking of older

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Anders Hammar
Why not allow an expanded dialect for the pom files (if it's not already in progress)? By that I mean open-up the format via some sort of plugin mechanism or core support so pom files could be written in other languages aside from XML. Perhaps something like JSON? I'm no JSON expert, but it

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Cobb, Randal
Looks interesting... I didn't want to work any more this afternoon anyway. ;) On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Anders Hammar wrote: Why not allow an expanded dialect for the pom files (if it's not already in progress)? By that I mean open-up the format via some sort of plugin mechanism or core

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Arnaud Héritier
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:32 PM, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote: On 6/9/11 6:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: It was like that at codehaus, and it still works that way. Sorry to display my ignorance, but I haven't done much with the plexus-* code in awhile... Other than the

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread John Casey
Yeah, I thought that's what we were talking about...so, if you clone the git repo, the commit bit you're talking about is for pulling those changes back to the sonatype clone, right? Not to be a pain, but who's saying sonatype's the ultimate authority on plexus? On 6/9/11 2:57 PM, Arnaud

Re: Move plexus dependencies to java 1.5 (Important!)

2011-06-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Pushing to master-git and pushing releases. All the license headers and GAV's are still codehaus. Kristian to., 09.06.2011 kl. 15.15 -0400, skrev John Casey: Yeah, I thought that's what we were talking about...so, if you clone the git repo, the commit bit you're talking about is for

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Olivier Lamy
2011/6/9 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: CC'ing dev@: I hope the PMC doesn't mind. We've been spending some time on-and-off talking about how we can open up development in the Maven core, and see if we can attract some fresh minds and ideas. I'd like to copy a list of some things we've

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools Version 2.8

2011-06-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
+1 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We solved 5 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11139styleName=Htmlversion=17146 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi guys, I just accidentally and quickly had a look at the thread (got interested because saw Olivier in :P) and since I'm interested on contributing - and have been playing with @Inject Guice extensions for a while[1][2][3][4][5] - I could provide my help. My BIG issue is I don't know Maven core

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
FYI Simone, our sandbox is supposed to be open for all _APACHE_ committers, so if you want to work on stuff you can just fork what you are working on into the sandbox to show us your skills of a hacker rather than having to live in patch land On 9 June 2011 22:17, Simone Tripodi

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Simone Tripodi
Thanks a lot Stephen!!! As I previously wrote before, my main issue is that even I'm quiet familiar with maven and basic APIs (I can develop plugins) I don't know how internals work, if you have something to share I can read to get more confident I would really appreciate it, then I'll request of

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Benson Margulies
I'd like to offer a small suggestion. One of the big barriers to maven happiness is the difficulty of understanding, in some cases, why it does what it does. This suggests to me three efforts that might offer an opportunity to learn core code without drowning. 1: take up slf4j, and thus allow

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Indexer version 4.1.1

2011-06-09 Thread Jesse Glick
Non-binding +1; no apparent problems in NetBeans integration during basic interactive tests. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools Version 2.8

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub --- On Thu, 6/9/11, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools Version 2.8 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 9:02 PM

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I don't know how internals work, if you have something to share I can read to get more confident I would really appreciate it I think that's the nub of the problem for a lot of people. We can hack a plugin but we

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
Simone, can you please do one favour for me... Can you please try svn mkdir https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/simone-test -m a test of sandbox access by a non-maven committer and if that works then svn rm https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/simone-test -m

RE: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2011 10:12 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Get thee to the Core... Simone, can you please do one favour for me... Can you please try svn mkdir

[jira] Subscription: Design Best Practices

2011-06-09 Thread jira
Issue Subscription Filter: Design Best Practices (24 issues) Subscriber: mavendevlist Key Summary MNG-2184Possible problem with @aggregator and forked lifecycles http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2184 MNG-612 implement conflict resolution techniques

Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-09 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: I'd like to offer a small suggestion. One of the big barriers to maven happiness is the difficulty of understanding, in some cases, why it does what it does. This suggests to me three efforts that might offer an opportunity to learn