Re: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 15 December 2014 at 01:29, Jason van Zyl ja...@takari.io wrote: Hi, The discussion keeps resurfacing about how we deal with failed releases so I'll summarize how I think it should ultimately be done as a starting point. I'll go over the cases we've encountered thus far: 1) The user

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
This poll is now closed. I will now proceed to count the votes and votes received after this mail is sent will be excluded from the final count On 9 December 2014 at 10:52, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: This is a run-off vote to select the top two options for our

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
After counting the 21 votes cast. I am eliminating C, F, G, and L as there is less than 3 votes between them and redistributing those votes would not affect the position of any of C, F, G or L Round 2 of the count will now proceed On 15 December 2014 at 10:04, Stephen Connolly

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
D has less second preferences that the other elimination candidate: A (based on votes of any preference) so eliminating D and promoting it's preferences accordingly (IOW Michael O's 2nd pref for A now becomes a 1st pref for A in round 3) On 15 December 2014 at 10:16, Stephen Connolly

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
In Round 3, E only has 2nd preference votes (I could have eliminated E earlier, but given the transfers it makes no difference to the result...) I will now eliminate E and promote its preferences (which all go to K by the way) On 15 December 2014 at 10:21, Stephen Connolly

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
A had no transfers to promote On 15 December 2014 at 10:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: At this point we have: A with 2x1st pref, 1x2nd pref (or 3 any pref votes) B with 5x1st pref, 1x2nd pref (or 6 any pref votes) H with 10x1st pref, 2x2nd pref (or 12 any pref

Re: [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
At this point we have: A with 2x1st pref, 1x2nd pref (or 3 any pref votes) B with 5x1st pref, 1x2nd pref (or 6 any pref votes) H with 10x1st pref, 2x2nd pref (or 12 any pref votes) K with 4x1st pref, 5x2nd pref, 1x3rd pref (or 10 any pref votes) The lowest by any measure is A, so I will

[RESULT] [VOTE] Run-off for mascot's name

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
On the basis of any preference expressed: H: has 12 preferences expressed K: has 10 preferences expressed B: has 6 preferences expressed I declare the winners of the run-off to be H and K (i.e. Shotgun and The Maven Owl) I will now start a vote thread to decide the overall winner (And

[VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an extension until I send a message saying that the polls are closed) There will be no discussion in

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
A On 15 December 2014 at 10:39, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Anders Hammar
B /Anders On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential

AW: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Krull, Stephan
B -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2014 11:39 An: Maven Users List; Maven Developers List Betreff: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl After the run-off round, we are left with two names

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Martin Grigorov
B Martin Grigorov Wicket Training and Consulting https://twitter.com/mtgrigorov On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: A On 15 December 2014 at 10:39, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we

Re: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Patrick
Sorry for the noise and maybe I am just being stupid but... This is a constant source of pain for us as Maven users when we do not use snapshots. The real problem is that once you go down his path, Maven seems to really only have two choices when you set your dependency version to 2.5.3: 1.)

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Graham Leggett
On 15 Dec 2014, at 12:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an extension

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
A 2014-12-15 13:34 GMT+01:00 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm: On 15 Dec 2014, at 12:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Tony Chemit
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:39:27 + Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: A thanks, tony. After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Gary Gregory
As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition of cute, I am sick of hearing about any kind of gun... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-school-shootings-sandy-hook-20141211-story.html Gary On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Jeroen Hoek jer...@lable.org wrote: B

Re: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I somehow think we need to decide if we want to change anything :) We certainly don't have to. I'm describing a system that's been implemented and it's working but I'm not expecting as a certainty that it's

Re: Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Michael Osipov
As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition of cute, I am sick of hearing about any kind of gun... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-school-shootings-sandy-hook-20141211-story.html Thank you so much for bringing this up. I am personally disgusted about the

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
B Martijn On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:27 PM, David Hoffer dhoff...@gmail.com wrote: B -Dave On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 6:22 AM, cody.a.fy...@wellsfargo.com wrote: B Cody Fyler Lending Grid Build Team G=Lending Grid Builds (515) – 441 - 0814 -Original Message- From: Stephen

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.5

2014-12-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
At first glance that does not look like a valid OSGi version: http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v43/core/org/osgi/framework/Version.html In Tycho something like: 1.0-SNAPSHOT in the POM and 1.0.qualifier in the MANIFEST.MF would turn into something like:

Re: Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Tim Pizey
I don't imagine this is an open vote, but I lurk and agree: shotgun is very off putting. B On 15 December 2014 at 13:33, Michael Osipov 1983-01...@gmx.net wrote: As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition of cute, I am sick of hearing about any kind of gun...

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
B as in Dont care Kristian shotgun owl for president 2014-12-15 13:42 GMT+01:00 Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com: A 2014-12-15 13:34 GMT+01:00 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm: On 15 Dec 2014, at 12:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the

Re: dev Digest 15 Dec 2014 13:39:16 -0000 Issue 5782

2014-12-15 Thread Dan Rollo
A -Dan On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:39 AM, dev-digest-h...@maven.apache.org wrote: From: Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com Date: December 15, 2014 at 8:34:04 AM EST Subject: Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl To: Maven Users List

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Manfred Moser
A - Shotgun Stephen Connolly wrote on 15.12.2014 02:39: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an extension until I send a message

Re: dev Digest 15 Dec 2014 13:39:16 -0000 Issue 5782

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
Dan, can you please vote on the actual thread and not the digest? On 15 December 2014 at 14:59, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: A -Dan On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:39 AM, dev-digest-h...@maven.apache.org wrote: From: Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com mailto:

Re: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
You're not missing anything. The integration we've written essentially replaces much of the internal resolution mechanism with support on the repository side. We currently do not use SNAPSHOTs and we do use ranges for a team of 1500+ developers. It will all be open source but we're not ready to

RE: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Patrick
If you need outside opinions, I would be happy to participate in that meeting... :-) -- Robert Patrick robert.patr...@oracle.com VP, FMW Platform Engineering, Oracle Corporation 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450

Infrastructure Information

2014-12-15 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi to all, on Wednesday 21:00 UTC Erebus Server will be taken down which results in downtime (estimated for around 45 minutes) for several services... * Confluence Wiki * repository.apache.org and other services as well... So don't be astonished.. Kind regards Karl Heinz Marbaise

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Graham
A Sent from my iPhone On 15/12/2014, at 9:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.5

2014-12-15 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, +1 from me... Kind regards Karl Heinz Marbaise On 12/14/14 7:00 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, Time to release Maven 3.2.5! Here is a link to Jira with 22 issues resolved: https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=20819 Staging repo:

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Dan Rollo
A -Dan On 15/12/2014, at 9:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an

Re: Releases, Continuous Delivery and the Future

2014-12-15 Thread Paul Benedict
Jason, thanks for taking the time to write this up. It is a good read. One extra tidbit I'd like to discussion is this. When I recommended we burn the version when the vote/build fails, I wasn't expecting we would move the fixed issues to the new version. Let's not do that. I find that confusing

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Arnaud Héritier
B Arnaud On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: A -Dan On 15/12/2014, at 9:39 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
You raise a fair point, and for that reason I am changing my vote to B On 15 December 2014 at 13:15, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition of cute, I am sick of hearing about any kind of gun...

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Petar Tahchiev
B 2014-12-16 0:26 GMT+02:00 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com : You raise a fair point, and for that reason I am changing my vote to B On 15 December 2014 at 13:15, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition

[VOTE] Release Apache Maven Ant Plugin version 2.4

2014-12-15 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, We solved 10 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11124version=15977 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MANT%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20key%20DESC%2C%20priority%20DESC Staging

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Gary Gregory
I guess I should VOTE B, but I am not on the PMC so I am not sure which votes count. Gary On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: You raise a fair point, and for that reason I am changing my vote to B On 15 December 2014 at 13:15, Gary

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Olivier Lamy
B On 15 December 2014 at 21:39, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Assembly Plugin version 2.5.3

2014-12-15 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1 Regards, Hervé Le samedi 13 décembre 2014 10:33:24 Kristian Rosenvold a écrit : Hi, We solved 21 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=20790styleName=Htm lprojectId=11126 This release is mostly focused on regressions and minor issues in the 2.5.X range.

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
All votes count. PMC votes are special for binary releases due to legal requirements. This is a community issue, so everyone is welcome On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I should VOTE B, but I am not on the PMC so I am not sure which votes count.

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
B On 12/15/2014 11:39 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (with the potential of an extension until I send a message saying that

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread Stephane Nicoll
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: As cute as Shutgun might seem, for some unspecified definition of cute, I am sick of hearing about any kind of gun... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-school-shootings-sandy-hook-20141211-story.html

Re: [VOTE] Name our mascot: Shotgun vs The Maven Owl

2014-12-15 Thread domi
B On 16.12.2014, at 08:41, Mikolaj Izdebski mizde...@redhat.com wrote: B On 12/15/2014 11:39 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: After the run-off round, we are left with two names standing. This second vote will be a straight and simple majority wins. The vote will be open for at least 72