Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-03-01 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
Hello everybody, maybe I overlooked the answer to the question in the *subject* in the mail thread. I am all fine with Christian Schultes definitions, but would be really be interested in pulling alphas from repo1/central. What is the current agreement here? So +1 for publishing to central from

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 02/26/17 um 13:03 schrieb Stephen Connolly: > Even if we had a -1 as long as I have the binding votes *as release > manager* it would be my call whether to release or not. > > Now *personally* I much rather release with consensus, but any committer > can step up to be release manager for any

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
Even if we had a -1 as long as I have the binding votes *as release manager* it would be my call whether to release or not. Now *personally* I much rather release with consensus, but any committer can step up to be release manager for any of our components, so I would prefer if we can agree our

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, On 26/02/17 12:22, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: now I see your reasoning 3.3.n were expected to be final quality: they were not, they were dropped (vote result was -1, result sent to trash) That is the difference here. The alpha-1 at the moment does not have any -1 yet...(not that I seen one,

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
now I see your reasoning 3.3.n were expected to be final quality: they were not, they were dropped (vote result was -1, result sent to trash) 3.5.0-alpha-n is expected to be alpha quality: from tests, we have the alpha quality (IMHO even more quality, but not final quality), then the vote will

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Robert Scholte
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 04:58:24 +0100, Manfred Moser wrote: Imho it should go to Central just like any other release. All components and everything. The version clearly tells thats its alpha and this allows for clean testing, embedding and so on. We have done it

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1 to release to central there are general questions on what goes into central (and how central contains probably many unused versions of artifacts), but our Maven core release is not the right moment to try to work on every question we ignored until now Regards, Hervé Le samedi 25 février

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Tibor Digana
>From my PoV Alpha versions, compared to betas, are those which can be used only with user's risk unlike betas which are stable however need feedback to make them yet official release version. What makes sense among these two versions to deploy alpha to Central? On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:59 AM,

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Let's deploy. I don't see any risk to do it. The version name is clear enough to warn people to use it for tests only. (And I am so motivated to update the Jenkins evil plugin ;) ) Le dim. 26 févr. 2017 à 11:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit : > Hi, > > my opinion is cleary to

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-26 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, my opinion is cleary to deploy to central as we did before...to give others a chance to test. I can often see that many people are automatically downloading Maven from Central (download from Apache dist etc. is not a good idea apart from that blocked) for example with travis, ship-it,

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 02/25/17 um 22:55 schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise: > Hi, > > based on the started discussion about either to bring 3.5.0-alpha-1 to > Central or not I would suggest to discuss in a separate thread and > prevent using the VOTE's threads for that (as Stephen already mentioned). > > Using Central:

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Manfred Moser
Imho it should go to Central just like any other release. All components and everything. The version clearly tells thats its alpha and this allows for clean testing, embedding and so on. We have done it in the past and I dont see any reason for changing this. Manfred Stephen Connolly wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
So if I am embedding Maven, how do I embed Maven 3.5.0-alpha-1? (I know it should not be a big issue as we should have the release soon anyway, but more from the principal POV) Consider the Jenkins "evil" job type plugin that has dependencies on some of the artifacts that are in the staging

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Scholte
It depends on what the task of Central is. If it for *dependencies*, there's no need to publish pre-final versions; don't think we should motive plugins to depend on alphas. AFAIK the common way to get a new version of Maven is via http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and not via Central.

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Guillaume Boué
I don't see a reason not to push 3.5.0-alpha-1 to Central. It has been done this way for previous versions, and makes it more broadly applicable for all users. Guillaume Le 25/02/2017 à 22:55, Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit : Hi, based on the started discussion about either to bring

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
My view is we should release to central. I am not so strongly held of this view that I would object to alternatives... but I do think just dropping the staging repo and pushing the src to dist would be a bad plan On Sat 25 Feb 2017 at 21:56, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: > Hi,

[DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central

2017-02-25 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, based on the started discussion about either to bring 3.5.0-alpha-1 to Central or not I would suggest to discuss in a separate thread and prevent using the VOTE's threads for that (as Stephen already mentioned). Using Central: o Everybody can use it and make tests on it. Using an other