Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Kenney Westerhof
Ok, if you really need both sources and javadoc then that should be possible. I never heard of the shift-f2 but indeed it doesn't work here. I either use the tooltip when I hover over an element and possibly f2 for focus, or open the javadoc view which displays the javadoc as soon as I select

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Brian E. Fox
So I propose: - if -DdownloadSources is specified, download sources and fallback to javadoc, just as it is now - if -DdownloadJavaDoc is specified, download javadoc (possibly fallback to sources) - if both are specified, download both. And: - don't make this a default; the default behaviour

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Kenney Westerhof
Brian E. Fox wrote: So I propose: - if -DdownloadSources is specified, download sources and fallback to javadoc, just as it is now - if -DdownloadJavaDoc is specified, download javadoc (possibly fallback to sources) - if both are specified, download both. And: - don't make this a

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Cabasson Denis
: Kenney Westerhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:05 PM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects Cabasson Denis wrote: About this link, why couldn't we have a consistent

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, I tend to agree with you Kenney. But I have users who love to use Shift+F2 within eclipse (which opens a browser like window with the view of the javadoc in eclipse), and I don't really see why those users should be denied to use

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Cabasson Denis
] Envoyé : Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:42 AM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, I tend to agree with you Kenney. But I have users who love to use

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Cabasson Denis
] Envoyé : Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:42 AM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, I tend to agree with you Kenney. But I have users who love to use

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Mark Hobson
On 05/07/07, Cabasson Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I kinda changed the suject of the discussion. The matter here is whether the eclipse-plugin should be able to download sources AND javadoc or only (as is the cas right now) sources, and only javadoc as a fallback if sources are

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Rahul Thakur
Same here. +1 to Javadoc -1 to download sources Cheers, Rahul - Original Message - From: Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Jörg Schaible
Cabasson Denis wrote on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:57 PM: About this link, why couldn't we have a consistent behaviour for javadoc and sources jar? [snip] Because here it becomes IDE dependent. Eclipse displays Javadoc automatically if the sources are available. No need to download Javadocs

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Hobson
Okay, bit of a mixed bag for this vote: +1 javadoc: Brett, Dennis, Brian, Christian, Rahul -1 javadoc: Jochen, Stephane, Reinhard +1 sources: Mark, Dennis, Brian, Christian -1 sources: Brett, Jochen, Stephane, Reinhard, Rahul It seems there's a few prerequisites to this being widely accepted:

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Brett Porter
On 04/07/2007, at 12:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Downloading sources (or javadocs) is an excellent thing, if the sources (or the javadocs) are available. Unfortunately this isn't the case in a real lot of cases. As a consequence, running the plugins can get darned slow. Apart from that, why

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
I have had second thoughts on the proposal. To me, we are discussing something, that clearly is a user preference. As such, it belongs into either settings.xml or profiles.xml, possibly with activeByDefault=true. It should not enter a projects POM, if it is used by as many people as the Maven

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Edwin Punzalan
+1 Its in my settings.xml too. On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Geoffrey De Smet
Downloading the non-available sources should not be slow: Just cache in the repository (not in target which get cleaned) if the sources of an _available_ jar are available or not. Then lay down an extra repository law: Do not deploy sources on a later date after the pom has been deployed to me

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Kenney Westerhof
: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:08 PM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 03/07/07, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) In the eclipse plugin

[VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow [ ] -1: I like superfluous typing, guessing Javadoc

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Brett Porter
+1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) On 03/07/2007, at 11:48 PM, Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Dennis Lundberg
+1 Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow [ ] -1: I like superfluous

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow [ ]

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
On 03/07/07, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) In the eclipse plugin, the downloadSources flag controls them both: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-eclipse-plugin/faq.html#import-javadoc Mark

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
On 03/07/07, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 for both, although I like to have sources and javadocs attached to Eclipse. (Non-binding) Downloading sources (or javadocs) is an excellent thing, if the sources (or the javadocs) are available. Unfortunately this isn't the case in a real

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Brian E. Fox
it won't or find a way around it. From: Mark Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/3/2007 9:48 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Cabasson Denis
/browse/MECLIPSE-292 Denis. -Message d'origine- De : Mark Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:08 PM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 03/07/07, Brett Porter

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
-1 (vote) in the way it's handled right now When you have lots of dependencies, it takes way much time to generate the project. I would go either into a FAQ explaining how to set this up in the pluginsManagement section of a super pom. Aligning the cache system from the eclipse plugin to the

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0:

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 03/07/07, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) In the eclipse plugin, the downloadSources flag controls them both: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Cabasson Denis
, 2007 4:08 PM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 03/07/07, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) In the eclipse plugin

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
: Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects And make this consistent with the IDEA plugin as well. On 7/3/07, Cabasson Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About this link, why couldn't we have a consistent behaviour

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Christian Gruber
+1 for both (non binding), but the unavailability of either shouldn't spam consoles. Small concise warnings would be sufficient, if at all. Christian. On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread Maven POM plugin config, this is a vote to add