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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-6205:
Hi Arun, is it related with
+1 for statement of Jacques. And it should also be stated on our 'release
policy' page.
Clear, unambiguous messages ensure that we tell a consistent story. Not
only to potential adopters but they also remind of what we do, for whom and
how. Having those up front helps us to have long, winding
My advise is somewhat similar: 'Once a release branch is created, support
for older releases can decrease - because volunteers tend to focus their
efforts on issues that hold their interest more.'
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing,
Jacques Le Roux created OFBIZ-6206:
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Summary: The always log level in minilang is rendered as FATAL
Key: OFBIZ-6206
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6206
Project: OFBiz
Jacopo, Adrian,
Why do you see a problem with this sentence there? It seems the best place to inform our users, no? There are more chances to be seen than somewhere
in the wiki.
Maybe I did not write it right because I tried to be brief?
I did not meant to ask our users to backport bug fixes
Thank you, Adrian, for sharing your viewpoint.
Op dinsdag 24 maart 2015 heeft Adrian Crum
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com het volgende geschreven:
On 3/24/2015 1:16 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
In the past statements have been made that contributors must have certain
traits shown before they
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I thought about that, it's a moot point. Is removing components from a branch
really not a code change?
I am sorry but I am not following you... aren't we discussing about adding them
instead of removing?
Miscellaneous is just another classification, for sure worse than 'special
purpose'.
Yes, some got more love in the past by the committers at that time (some
left). It is a given that each contributor (and committers are
contributors) has the freedom to work on what he/she desires to work on.
We,
Sounds like a good idea. ;-)
On 24 Mar 2015 2:30 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
Gavin,
As we do cloud based multi-tenancy, almost everything we have in our value
proposition is special purpose (it is just a classifaction). It depends on
use within the domains of the
Agree with most of the ideas expressed.
On 24 Mar 2015 3:17 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
Miscellaneous is just another classification, for sure worse than 'special
purpose'.
Yes, some got more love in the past by the committers at that time (some
left). It is a given that
On 3/24/2015 1:16 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
In the past statements have been made that contributors must have certain
traits shown before they can be considered committer grade by the PMC.
Those statements came down to: the potential must be/have the same as the
existing! The same qualities and
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
* there are components that have issues (that can include license concerns
and/or vulnerabilities): better to leave them out from release branches
They should even not be in trunk then
I agree; but if they
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
If this is a criteria I believe the pos component would be in the same
situation than the ecommerce component... It adds new entities and some
data, but they make sense, it does not redefine anything.
I think
Congratulations and good luck!
Michael
ecomify.de
Am 24.03.15 um 09:32 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
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On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
They should even not be in trunk then. We should address that with Jira
issues ASAP if we want to keep those, else Attic seems the way. Whose are
they?
Mailing list archives have information about some of
On 24 Mar 2015, at 10:33 am, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
Dear infra team,
This is now open for 2 months :/
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9041
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9041
Thank you Jacques, I believe I’ve fixed the issue.
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Adrian Crum updated OFBIZ-6206:
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Summary: The always log level in minilang is logged as FATAL (was: The
always log level in
Le 24/03/2015 10:10, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I tried to begin a discussion on this subject few times, notably at
http://markmail.org/message/lgqhdtotwhfebqmw
But nothing happened, so I think the best is to
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
For R13.07 it's a bit too late, but I'd not want that we go the same way with
R14.12 releases...
Isn't this vote about 13.07? In fact, because of your decision to call this
vote we have stopped the preparation
Gavin,
As we do cloud based multi-tenancy, almost everything we have in our value
proposition is special purpose (it is just a classifaction). It depends on
use within the domains of the customer. And we have movedl from the special
purpose folder to more appropriate places (ldap to framework,
Arun Patidar created OFBIZ-6205:
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Summary: Use EntityUtilProperties to get the WebSiteProperties
Key: OFBIZ-6205
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6205
Project: OFBiz
Issue
-1 for the same reasons as Jacopo.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 3/24/2015 9:10 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I tried to begin a discussion on this subject few times, notably at
1) -1
2) -1
I trust in add-ons management and I think that each special purpose can
be an add-on for the framework.
The big question is how the community can maintain add-ons without a
manager.
It's a pity to not be able to see and install easily special purposes in
the Apache OFBiz
'Helps us to avoid long, winding threads in our mailing lists' was what I
wanted to bring across.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015
Congrat's Nico ;)
Gil
On 24/03/2015 09:32, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
That is why I started a new thread. To stop diluting the original intent of
that thread.
I agree, we should clarify more. We should start with that in web/wiki
pages per component (and per app if there are multiples in a component -
see issue OFBIZ-5838
Hi Pierre
I'm not sure where we're going with this discussion. My original input was
to suggest that OAuth2 might not fit into the special purpose category
and that it should rather be considered a tool/utility. As it transpires,
there seems to be divergent opinions (at least between you and me)
It's now fixed after https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9327
Jacques
Le 21/03/2015 17:54, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
No I wanted to fund my explanation on the good work Ron did at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies
But the infra
I agree. Something like that belongs on the wiki.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 3/24/2015 10:41 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
In the download page we should also strive to have a more formal language:
maybe Sharan, Adrian or others that are fluent with English
R13.07 is a mistake and an embarrassment to this project. It wouldn't have
happened if more attention was paid to my concerns and objections, and
those of others.
Unfortunately, that can't be undone. Only reduced. We should get past it as
fast and as easy possible. Reintroducing the omtted
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-6205:
It would be nice if we stopped using that awful
I usually give my clients this advice:
Once a release branch is created, support for previous releases
decreases - because volunteers tend to focus their efforts on more
recent releases.
Maybe that will help.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 3/24/2015 11:33 AM,
Congrats Nicolas!
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 3/24/2015 8:32 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
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Arun Patidar updated OFBIZ-6205:
Affects Version/s: Release Branch 13.07
Use EntityUtilProperties to get the WebSiteProperties
Done, see http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html
Jacques
Le 23/03/2015 08:31, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
Ha just a small change I wrote that we should state in download page that
*not all bug fixes are backported to all living release branches*
Should be
*despite our best effort, not all bug
Congratulations Nicolas !
Guillaume
Dear infra team,
This is now open for 2 months :/
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9041
Thanks
Jacques
Félicitations Nico
Jean-Luc.
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Hi [~jacques.le.roux]
no, its not related to
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Arun Patidar updated OFBIZ-6205:
Affects Version/s: Release Branch 14.12
Trunk
Use EntityUtilProperties to
+1
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
wrote:
R13.07 is a mistake and an embarrassment to this project. It wouldn't have
happened if more attention was paid to my concerns and objections, and
those of others.
Unfortunately, that can't be undone. Only
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Arun Patidar updated OFBIZ-6205:
Affects Version/s: (was: Release Branch 13.07)
Use EntityUtilProperties to get the
Congrats Nicolas!
Regards
--
Amardeep
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
Thanks all for your message.
At the beginning I have been really surprise by the invitation of the
PMC team (I'm a little man) but if they considerate that I can help the
community here, I have to trust them ;)
And It's pleasure if I can bring something.
So let's work !
Nicolas
Le
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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Attachment: OFBIZ-6207.patch
Fixes issue.
Anyone can view any Request or Quote
Forrest Rae created OFBIZ-6207:
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Summary: Anyone can view any Request or Quote
Key: OFBIZ-6207
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6207
Project: OFBiz
Issue Type: Bug
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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This is a security bug in the ecommerce application. Anyone can view any quote
or
Hello,
1) +0, currently we don't have a beautifully solution to manage
components with dependencies out of OFBiz and also I agree with jacopo
with the component surcharge problem
2) -1 it's now to each interested people to manage the backport on their
local repo.
Nicolas
Le 22/03/2015
Le 24/03/2015 15:23, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I thought about that, it's a moot point. Is removing components from a branch
really not a code change?
I am sorry but I am not following you... aren't we
On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
@Jacopo,
About this framework dependency on ecommerce, I hope it's only about data, is
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6110 enough?
Unfortunately there is more than data; some examples that I am
Ha right, I did not remember that indeed.
Jacques
Le 24/03/2015 15:20, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
If this is a criteria I believe the pos component would be in the same
situation than the ecommerce
Le 24/03/2015 15:24, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
For R13.07 it's a bit too late, but I'd not want that we go the same way with
R14.12 releases...
Isn't this vote about 13.07? In fact, because of your decision
Le 24/03/2015 15:25, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
They should even not be in trunk then. We should address that with Jira issues
ASAP if we want to keep those, else Attic seems the way. Whose are they?
Mailing
Don't we also have dependencies on birt? Regarding reporting in accounting
and order?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:20 PM,
The accounting component has financial reports implemented as screen widgets
(html/pdf/csv) that the Birt component overrides with different ones
implemented with Birt.
This is actually one example about a specialpurpose component that is
overriding/hiding functionality that is already provided
@Ron,
Could you please update the graph at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies to show the framework
dependency on ecommerce?
You see this is what I dread, apart you nobody knows Graphviz, hopefully I
guess it's easy to use?
@Jacopo,
Le 24/03/2015 16:12, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
@Ron,
Could you please update the graph at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies to show the
framework dependency on ecommerce?
You see this is what I dread, apart you nobody knows Graphviz,
Sub-projects?
If anyone is still reading...
The project seems to have reached a size where managing it is getting to
be too contentious.
There was a suggestion about splitting out the framework and releasing
it as a separate deliverable.
This idea seems to have some merit.
- it would force
Le 24/03/2015 16:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
I think Jacopo and I took care of this (mostly Jacopo)
For order you can check that by yourself at
http://demo-stable-ofbiz.apache.org/ordermgr/control/OrderPurchaseReportOptions
For accounting I let you find your way (in other words I let you
Le 24/03/2015 16:20, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
Sub-projects?
If anyone is still reading...
The project seems to have reached a size where managing it is getting to be too
contentious.
There was a suggestion about splitting out the framework and releasing it as a
separate deliverable.
This idea
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-AccountingConfigChange.patch
This patch addresses the filename change.
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-ACCInvoicePerShipmentTests.patch
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-ACCPaymentServices.xml.patch
This patch addresses changed references in
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-ACCInvoiceServices.java.patch
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-ACCInvoiceServices.xml.patch
This patch addresses changed references in
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Forrest Rae commented on OFBIZ-6207:
Honestly, I am a bit lost as to why this isn't
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Pierre Smits reassigned OFBIZ-6208:
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Assignee: Pierre Smits
rename AccountingConfig.properties to accounting.properties
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6207:
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Hi Forrest,
If you are going to have a patch
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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Third attempt at a patch that works in both Trunk and
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6207:
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If you have confirmed that this issue applies
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Forrest Rae commented on OFBIZ-6207:
Although, when applied to the 13.07 branch, it
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Forrest Rae commented on OFBIZ-6207:
So, in 13.07, entity-one in the widget will call
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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Forrest Rae commented on OFBIZ-6207:
Turns out my patch isn't correct. The location
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Forrest Rae updated OFBIZ-6207:
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I just attached OFBIZ-6207-second-attempt.patch. This
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6164:
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The distinctive element of whether a system
Pierre Smits created OFBIZ-6208:
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Summary: rename AccountingConfig.properties to
accounting.properties
Key: OFBIZ-6208
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6208
Project: OFBiz
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-PRODRentalServices.xml.patch
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Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-6208:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6208-ORDROrderServices.patch
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Forrest Rae commented on OFBIZ-6207:
Deepak,
I'll try again tomorrow AM, but I'm
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Deepak Dixit reassigned OFBIZ-6207:
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Deepak Dixit commented on OFBIZ-6207:
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Hi Forrest Rae,
You can use condition tag to
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Deepak Dixit commented on OFBIZ-6207:
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Sure Forrest,
BTW you can refer
Congratulations Nicolas.
Op dinsdag 24 maart 2015 heeft Sharan Foga sharan.f...@gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:
Felicitations Nicolas a bienvenue!
Merci
Sharan
On 24.3.2015 09:32, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz
PMC.
Bienvenue Nicolas :)
Jacques
Le 24/03/2015 09:32, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
+1
Jacopo
PS: a small clarification: the jetty component, rather than being a variation
of the appserver component, is an alternative to the catalina component.
On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
*Rational:*
The special purpose/jetty component has been
On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I tried to begin a discussion on this subject few times, notably at
http://markmail.org/message/lgqhdtotwhfebqmw
But nothing happened, so I think the best is to start a vote. I see 2
questions hence 2
Congratulations Nicolas .
Thanks
--
Divesh Dutta.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
Many Congrats Nicolas!
--
Kind Regards
Ashish Vijaywargiya
HotWax Systems - est. 1997
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
Thanks for the clarification Jacopo. I would say another reason to have
descriptive pages per component as described in issue OFBIZ-5838
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5838.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
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On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I did not meant to ask our users to backport bug fixes themselves, only when
a bug miss in a release and they need it.
If they need it, and they have the ability to create a backport, then they
should be
On Mar 24, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
I don't think it's a good idea to remove *all* specialpurpose components from
a release (but those we can't)
Yes, I know your opinion on this as you have been very vocal about it :-)
This time, it will be good
Hi All, Gavin,
Starting a new thread. For the build up, see
http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/pf7lnzjwow4g4igj?q=passport+oauth2+order:date-forward
Our current homepage states as the value proposition the following:
Apache OFBiz™ is an open source product for the automation of enterprise
I think Jacopo and I took care of this (mostly Jacopo)
For order you can check that by yourself at
http://demo-stable-ofbiz.apache.org/ordermgr/control/OrderPurchaseReportOptions
For accounting I let you find your way (in other words I let you bring the
proof it's not ;) )
Jacques
Le
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
Congrats Nicolas!
Thanks Regards
—
Deepak Dixit
On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
Congrats
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jacopo Cappellato
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com wrote:
I am happy to announce that Nicolas Malin is now a member of the OFBiz PMC.
Welcome, Nicolas!
Jacopo
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