Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-29 Thread Tal Daniel
Excuse me for intervening the discussion, but I still don't get the difference between these links: http://www.openoffice.org/download/all_beta.html http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds I'm lost, and

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Tal Daniel wrote: Excuse me for intervening the discussion, but I still don't get the difference between these links: [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/all_beta.html [2] http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html [3]

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-29 Thread Tal Daniel
Andrea Pescetti wrote: Tal Daniel wrote: Excuse me for intervening the discussion, but I still don't get the difference between these links: [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/all_beta.html [2] http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html [3]

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/26/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 23/03/2014 Dave Fisher wrote: +1 to proceeding along the careful plan that has been developed. Good! So I'll proceed in about 24 hours to: - Adding a link (right column) from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ to

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/03/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 03/26/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Good! So I'll proceed in about 24 hours to: - Adding a link (right column) from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ to http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html - Removing the Do not link notice from

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 23/03/2014 Dave Fisher wrote: +1 to proceeding along the careful plan that has been developed. Good! So I'll proceed in about 24 hours to: - Adding a link (right column) from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ to http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html - Removing the Do not link

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-23 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Andrea shared with me the conversations that he had regarding the policy and I am convinced that he did in fact have the conversations that I suggested he should have. +1 to proceeding along the careful plan that has been developed. Regards, Dave On Mar 20, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 1:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means, normal users go to: www.openoffice.org/download/ Power users, dev's, qa's, etc. should be pointed to: openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html So, putting text from Andrea's webpage proposal into the webpage Kay has

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: which builds exactly do you want to promote here and with what explanation? - build bots are fine, need no or only little explanation - manually built snapshot/milestones -- please no further page where entries have to be edited manually as well Whatever is useful to our

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: which builds exactly do you want to promote here and with what explanation? - build bots are fine, need no or only little explanation - manually built snapshot/milestones -- please no further page where entries have to be

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can come up here. I don't want to divert the discussion, but wouldn't it make sense to have daily builds both for AOO410 and for trunk? Sure, this

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/20/14 3:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can come up here. I don't want to divert the discussion, but wouldn't it make sense to have daily builds

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 3/20/14 3:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html Development continues on trunk and completely new unrelated problems can come up here. I

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Andrea, I am only commenting on a Foundation policy regarding advertising builds. Infrastructure is shared and while the impact of 1000s of users downloading a nightly build may seem small it has a possible negative influence on the 150 other projects and 50 podlings that share this

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: No links to snapshots from the website. It is ASF policy. It is not ASF policy. It is the way we have interpreted it so

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/19/2014 12:21 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: No links to snapshots from the website. It is ASF policy. It is not ASF policy. It is the way we have interpreted it so far. I'm moving this to an own

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means, normal users go to: www.openoffice.org/download/ Power users, dev's, qa's, etc. should be pointed to: openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html So, putting text from Andrea's webpage proposal into the webpage Kay has found (again ;-) ) could be the golden way.

Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: No links to snapshots from the website. It is ASF policy. It is not ASF policy. It is the way we have interpreted it so far. I'm moving this to an own thread as per Juergen's request (but this IS

Re: Better visibility for dev builds (Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final)

2014-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: No links to snapshots from the website. It is ASF policy. It is not ASF policy. It is the way we have interpreted it so