Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Rory O'Farrell schreef op 02-10-2016 15:59: Top posting: This thread is going off at half cock! Hagar's implied point was that any change in editor is almost certain to cause some alteration (greater or lesser) in formatting. Why this should be and whether the precise file format is

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 02/10/2016 à 19:29, Xen a écrit : Jörg was only mentioning that the ODF format was also designed without compatibility in mind, and that it is an equal situation. I think that ODF was designed to be a fully open standard to give the users back the property of their own data. This was to

Re: [Noob] Code question

2016-10-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Awesome!!! Thanks a lot Patricia. For the link and the definition. :-D On 02.10.2016 21:58, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Here's an answer to part of your question. On 10/2/2016 9:49 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: ... What does SAL NO VTABLE mean? Is it macro code? ... It's time to start using the

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Hagar Delest
Top posting. I was of course talking about Office Open XML, also known as OpenXML or OOXML developed by Microsoft and adopted by ECMA International as ECMA-376 in 2006. I've mostly seen ODF for the OpenOffice.org XML file

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 02-10-2016 21:56: Le 02/10/2016 à 19:29, Xen a écrit : Jörg was only mentioning that the ODF format was also designed without compatibility in mind, and that it is an equal situation. I think that ODF was designed to be a fully open standard to give the users back the

[Noob] Code question

2016-10-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello all. I am reviewing code whenever I find time. I find the code sometimes hard to read, due lack of experience with c++. So I would like to ask if someone can confirm / explain the following definition to me: File: basicmanagerrepository.hxx Class BasicManager; Namespace basic { class

RE: Which source files in release?

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I lost the thread somewhere, and I want to comment on a remark about who signs packages in the release candidates. I think there is a "requirement", or probably just an assumption, that the source package be signed by the Release Manager, so if you want to check the package and then

RE: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the observation was that ODF was not designed with interoperability with Microsoft in mind. In fact, that case was officially excluded, although the work on OpenFormula in ODF 1.2 was designed to accommodate Excel and had participation of Microsoft experts. The folklore about all of

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Dennis E. Hamilton schreef op 02-10-2016 23:01: It is a misunderstanding to assume that there is some "strict" ODF conformance requirement. That is factually not the case, nor does anything in the specification require some clear conformance for interoperability. Exactly the same issue as

Bugzilla and User generated content

2016-10-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello all, there is a Issue Report about adding more templates to Open Office 2.XX. Again something thats lingering from ancient times. I wonder how the Process is for such a thing. It is a voluntary act, and in the report the OP offers to help. Is such a template packaging something we

Re: [Noob] Code question

2016-10-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Here's an answer to part of your question. On 10/2/2016 9:49 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: ... What does SAL NO VTABLE mean? Is it macro code? ... It's time to start using the OpenOffice OpenGrok at http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/ (Or use find and grep in combination, but that takes

RE: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Rory's point is all that matters. The user wants to know how things will work *now* in choosing between different products. Hypotheticals and speculations about format standards are not useful. (I've worked on both OOXML and ODF specifications and I know from direct knowledge how

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Can this get to e.g. the Wiki? It is excellent advice for users deciding whether to use AOO. On 10/2/2016 9:17 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: +1 Rory's point is all that matters. The user wants to know how things will work *now* in choosing between different products. Hypotheticals and

Re: Bugzilla and User generated content

2016-10-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Kovacs wrote: there is a Issue Report about adding more templates to Open Office 2.XX. Again something thats lingering from ancient times. I wonder how the Process is for such a thing. There is a technical trade-off between making more templates available in the download and not making

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi Bill, According to the german Linux Magazin 09/16 which has tested the import capabilities of Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice, softmaker office and WPS, it depends on your documents. For Apache OpenOffice I found the following: If you consider the operating system, too. You should make sure

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Hagar Delest
Top posting. In fact, I came to OOo in 2006 because I used to use MS Word to compile data and one day a file got corrupted for an unknown reason. I discovered that there was no way to recover the file because it was proprietary. I think that at that time the .doc format was not disclosed yet

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
You guys now lost me. A file should have a consistent state independent of the implementation of the writing software. And we should take care that our implementation leads to the same positioning on the paper. The tool that is able to read what is on the market or the next big thing wins the

Re: Which source files in release?

2016-10-02 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 06:24:50PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >The idea is to start from a clean check-out, not configured, move the > >LICENSE, NOTICE, and README files, and delete what is not needed. "what > >is not needed" should be a relatively short list,

Updates

2016-10-02 Thread David Batchelor
I am using open office 4.1.2 and I love this product very much. How do I automatically or manually update any and all new versions that may come in the future? Will I be notified by open office? What steps do I need to take to do any updates, as I want to insure I am using the latest version at

In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Bill Pate
I couldn't find any other email other than this for contact, but I did have and may still go back to office 365, but my question is, I have collections of my writings saved at this point after using their set up. Can Apache open their Open Office XLM, and do formatting, spell check, page

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Hagar Delest
Yes it can. Beware that OOXML was not designed to be compatible with anything else than MS Office. So once you switch to Apache OpenOffice, save in native format (.odt for text). MS Office can read that (even if it does not always to a very good job at it). AOO can't save in OOXML but AOO can

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net] > Beware that OOXML was not designed to be compatible with > anything else than MS Office. And what is ODF? ODF 1.0 corresponded to 99% of the original OpenOffice-XML Formal (sxw, sxc, etc.) written only for OOo. And the truth is this

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread RA Stehmann
Am 02.10.2016 um 14:05 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > And the truth is this there are two ISO standards, and neither of the two is > an > ISO standard second class. > I disagree with the second half sentence for a variety of reasons. But that is no topic for this mailing list. Kind regards Michael

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Jörg Schmidt schreef op 02-10-2016 14:05: And let me say it absolutely clear: I've heard how MS has denigrated many years Linux, but I have also noticed that MS reality of ODF recognized. Only with better software, we can beat MS, not with stupid sayings. It is easier than ever today, I must

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Top posting: This thread is going off at half cock! Hagar's implied point was that any change in editor is almost certain to cause some alteration (greater or lesser) in formatting. Why this should be and whether the precise file format is responsible is hardly relevant. Rory On Sun, 02