Can't access to people with SSH (was: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up)

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Hriň
you wrote you had uploaded the SSH keys to id.apache.org, that is a
good
first step.Next a couple of questions:
- which terminal program do you use ?
I use putty, and had to generate the keys with puttygen, you also have
to
remember to
configure the terminal program to use SSH (not telnet) and give a path
to
your part of the key.

- What exactly happens ? is your key rejected or do you get some kind
of
key error ?

hrin

I am using graphical terminal emulator xfce-terminal, bash and openssh
6.9p1 ...

so I need to generate keys : ssh-keygen -t rsa
Done.

Now I need to start agent and give to it keys:
ssh-agent
ssh-add

I can check if the agent has keys with:
ssh-add -L
ssh-add -l

Now I am going to id webadmin and copy paste here public ssh-key.

I am awiting that I can connect:
ssh myid@people... or
ssh -2 myid@people... to force v2 protocol.

The output is:
--
Note: logging in to this server with a password has been disabled. 

Please see : 
https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people

Remember to load your ssh key:-

See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add  ;
See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent

Permission denied (publickey).
--

I remembered that, I had setted up keys connection some years ago,
nowadays I do not have old keys. In that time I had to copy my public
key, to .ssh/authorized_keys file on people machine. Now I am not able
to do this. Maybe this is the problem.

Regards,
Michal Hriň   

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Re: Can't access to people with SSH (was: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up)

2015-08-09 Thread jan i
On Sunday, August 9, 2015, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:

 you wrote you had uploaded the SSH keys to id.apache.org, that is a
 good
 first step.Next a couple of questions:
 - which terminal program do you use ?
 I use putty, and had to generate the keys with puttygen, you also have
 to
 remember to
 configure the terminal program to use SSH (not telnet) and give a path
 to
 your part of the key.

 - What exactly happens ? is your key rejected or do you get some kind
 of
 key error ?

 hrin

 I am using graphical terminal emulator xfce-terminal, bash and openssh
 6.9p1 ...

 so I need to generate keys : ssh-keygen -t rsa
 Done.

 Now I need to start agent and give to it keys:
 ssh-agent
 ssh-add

 I can check if the agent has keys with:
 ssh-add -L
 ssh-add -l

 Now I am going to id webadmin and copy paste here public ssh-key.

 I am awiting that I can connect:
 ssh myid@people... or
 ssh -2 myid@people... to force v2 protocol.

 The output is:
 --
 Note: logging in to this server with a password has been disabled.

 Please see :
 https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people

 Remember to load your ssh key:-

 See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add  ;
 See: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent

 Permission denied (publickey).
 --

 I remembered that, I had setted up keys connection some years ago,
 nowadays I do not have old keys. In that time I had to copy my public
 key, to .ssh/authorized_keys file on people machine. Now I am not able
 to do this. Maybe this is the problem.

no now ldap is used (id.apache.org), but I wonder if the problem could be
that you have old keys on people.

This would normally give you a key invalid error. Since you get the note it
seems key is rejected and it therefore falls back to the password, which is
blocked.

Fastest solution for you is to jump on hip chat with infra, they have the
karma to e.g. remove your old keys.

rgds
jan i


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Hriň
BTW:
Do you still have the access problem with your people@a.o account? If 
so, we (maybe together with Infra) should solve this. Then you can save
the binaries there to indicate that the work comes from an AOO
committer 
and not from somewhere else.

hrin

Yes, I have still this problems. Solving this will be great. Thanks !


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-08 Thread jan i
On 8 August 2015 at 20:21, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:

 BTW:
 Do you still have the access problem with your people@a.o account? If
 so, we (maybe together with Infra) should solve this. Then you can save
 the binaries there to indicate that the work comes from an AOO
 committer
 and not from somewhere else.

 hrin

 Yes, I have still this problems. Solving this will be great. Thanks !

you wrote you had uploaded the SSH keys to id.apache.org, that is a good
first step.

Next a couple of questions:
- which terminal program do you use ?
I use putty, and had to generate the keys with puttygen, you also have to
remember to
configure the terminal program to use SSH (not telnet) and give a path to
your part of the key.

- What exactly happens ? is your key rejected or do you get some kind of
key error ?

rgds
jan i.




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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:
 Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
 is
 made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
 a
 release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.
 
 Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?
 
 Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
 done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
 a
 pre-view.
 
 hrin
 
 OK. Binary is deleted.
 
 This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
 candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
 buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.
 
 Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.

no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jan i wrote:

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?


No. It doesn't need to be. Maybe some confusion arose because Michal 
wrote 4.1.2 Early Preview here and somebody may find the name 
confusing, but this is clearly Michal's build of the current state of 
4.1.2 and it is OK (and actually great, Michal!) to have it.


It is like the buildbots output (or anything on people.apache.org): a 
public, totally unofficial, development version. I didn't download it.


I'm collecting information for answering the important part of this 
discussion (digital signing and access to the system), but this requires 
digging into the archives more than I had anticipated so it will take a 
while.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Michal Hriň
Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 10:20 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

jan i wrote:

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?


No. It doesn't need to be. Maybe some confusion arose because Michal
wrote 4.1.2 Early Preview here and somebody may find the name
confusing, but this is clearly Michal's build of the current state of
4.1.2 and it is OK (and actually great, Michal!) to have it.


+1

@Michael:
When you make sure that the file name like now always contain Early 
Preview or Early Access or anything far away from a Beta or Release 
version, then it cannot be mixed-up.


So, keep up the good work. :-)

Marcus

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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread jan i
On Friday, August 7, 2015, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbo...@rcbowen.com'); wrote:



 On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

 Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
 is
 made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
 a
 release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

 Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

 Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
 done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
 a
 pre-view.

 hrin

 OK. Binary is deleted.

 This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
 candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
 buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

 Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


 no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
 publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
 preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
 used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
 informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.


 I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some
 back-story.

 Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to try
 out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?

 Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official
 releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.

 Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be
 encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it, and
 encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.

 What am I missing?

Since I was the cause, let me explain what I tried to write,

I think the work done is very good, and wrote so, and I do not think
anybody asked for it to be deleted.

My concern was the naming 4.1.2 early preview. Thats sounds official (not
as an apache release, but you know that for AOO the binary is downloaded
factors more than the release source tar ball) and I do not want a
confusion to arise between what the release manager does and what
individual committers does.

I think Michael is doing a very important job with preparing builds for the
upcomming release, his work is known here, so much more reason to be
carefull when naming intermidiate builds. Andrea wrote it more direct, this
is a michael build based on the 4.1.0 branch, this is totally correct and
something a lot of people should test.

So I do not think you missed a lot, but as always it is real difficult to
write something without
getting misinterpreted or misunderstood.

rgds
jan i.


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 09:50 AM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.

/hrin


please don't put too much negative interpretion into some answers. Of 
course, it's great that you create builds from the new branch. It's also 
OK to publish this as download offer.


Unfortunately, I haven't seen the file name structure you have used. But 
please make sure that you always add a term like Early Preview, Early 
Access, Dev-Snapshot or something else that cannot be mixed-up with a 
Beta or Release version.


BTW:
Do you still have the access problem with your people@a.o account? If 
so, we (maybe together with Infra) should solve this. Then you can save 
the binaries there to indicate that the work comes from an AOO committer 
and not from somewhere else.


As said before, please keep up the good work. :-)

Marcus

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Rich Bowen



On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.



I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some 
back-story.


Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to 
try out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?


Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official 
releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.


Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be 
encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it, 
and encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.


What am I missing?

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Rich Bowen
On Aug 7, 2015 12:04 PM, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:



 Maybe Jan was afraid that a new version could come into the public too
early, others can see it as new release - and then the problem is just
starting: we have to deny this, discussions here and there, and nobody
wants to have this mess.


I would think we would welcome the publicity.

 However, all the problems can be easily solved with coordination and
communication (e.g., offering binaries only from Apache infra systems like
people@a.o, agreeing on file nameing to differentiate clearly from release
builds, etc.).

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 05:22 PM, schrieb Rich Bowen:



On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.



I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some
back-story.

Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to
try out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?


absolutely


Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official
releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.


Of course, the official truth is in the source code - this applies also 
for AOO. But please try to imagine that the AOO users think different. 
Just a few percent are interested in the source code. But the very most 
trust in the binaries as nearly no end-user is building from the source code



Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be
encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it,
and encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.

What am I missing?


Maybe Jan was afraid that a new version could come into the public too 
early, others can see it as new release - and then the problem is just 
starting: we have to deny this, discussions here and there, and nobody 
wants to have this mess.


However, all the problems can be easily solved with coordination and 
communication (e.g., offering binaries only from Apache infra systems 
like people@a.o, agreeing on file nameing to differentiate clearly from 
release builds, etc.).


Marcus

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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Hriň
Hi all,

finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US and
sk language.

If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.

The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection is
still refused.

I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
can't be used for massive downloading).


Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example with
self generated certificate)


Thanks everybody!

Regards wih wishing good day,
Michal Hriň





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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-06 Thread jan i
On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','h...@apache.org'); wrote:

 V Štvrtok,  6. august 2015 o 10:22 +0200, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
  Hi all,
 
  finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
  I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US
  and
  sk language.
 
  If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
 
  The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
  generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection
  is
  still refused.
 
  I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
  limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
  can't be used for massive downloading).

 If somebody would like to try en-US 4.1.2 Early Preview

 https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293authkey=!AP86Q
 1h_P__6LjIithint=file%2cexe
 https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293authkey=!AP86Q1h_P__6LjIithint=file%2cexe


Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as a
pre-view.

rgds
jan i


 
 
  Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
  about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example
  with
  self generated certificate)
 
 
  Thanks everybody!
 
  Regards wih wishing good day,
  Michal Hriň
 
 
 

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-06 Thread jan i
On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
 I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US and
 sk language.

 If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.

 The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
 generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection is
 still refused.

 I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
 limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
 can't be used for massive downloading).


 Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
 about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example with
 self generated certificate)

I wrote it in an earlier email, search for digital signing. You need a
verisign account and only andrea has a AOO account and you need a simple
modification of the build procedure.

Andrea wanted to add me earlier but due to I believe some complications it
never happened.

Anyhow the way I suggested digital signing, was an idea which I tested, but
others might have different ideas about how to do it. First step would be
to agree on what should be signed (only the setup exe, the runtime exe, the
runtime dll and jars). A good digital signing (like my proposal) contain it
all.

rgds
jan i




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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Hriň
V Štvrtok,  6. august 2015 o 10:22 +0200, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
 Hi all,
 
 finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
 I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US 
 and
 sk language.
 
 If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
 
 The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
 generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection 
 is
 still refused.
 
 I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
 limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
 can't be used for massive downloading).

If somebody would like to try en-US 4.1.2 Early Preview

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293authkey=!AP86Q
1h_P__6LjIithint=file%2cexe

 
 
 Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
 about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example 
 with
 self generated certificate)
 
 
 Thanks everybody!
 
 Regards wih wishing good day,
 Michal Hriň
 
 
 

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