[dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial

2011-10-10 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi Seth,

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve.

OOo should have PyUno and - if it is a build provided by Oracle - its
own version of Python and both should fit to each other. Admittedly I'm
not completely sure about that, if you have bad luck, even the Oracle
builds didn't contain an own Python. But if you build OOo by yourself,
you should be able to make sure that OOo's own copy of Python is used in
the build (and thus put into the installation set) and not the version
of the system. See what configure offers you with regard to Python.

Regards,
Mathias
Am 10.10.2011 05:41, schrieb Seth Shich:

 HI Mathias,
 
 Thanks for the information. Perhaps, I should tell you why I want to
 build OOo, and, then, maybe you could suggest what course I should take. 
 
 I am trying to get PyUno working so that I can read and interface with
 .doc and .docx files (e.g. highlight certain words in documents, such as
 proper names) while they are being viewed by users in MsWord. The
 problem is that PyUno links against Python2.3 and, therefore, I cannot
 run it on Mac OS X 10.7.1: 10.7.1 does not have Python2.3 in its
 complete form, and, at any rate, I wouldn't want to use that Python
 version because it would prevent imports of other modules requiring
 later Python versions. PyUno, then, must be made to link against either
 Python 2.6.7 or Python 2.7, the Python versions I have on my system.
 But, how to do this?
 
 I read here, at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/mac@porting.openoffice.org/msg03582.html, that: 
 
 Those who build OOo by themselves will be able to just use
 --with[out]-system-python, but only very, very few Mac users will
 build their own copy of OOo. Thus it is important to decide on the
 default, what the installsets offered from www.openoffice.org will
 include (or not include)
 
 At this stage, I have downloaded the entire repository for OOo. Is there
 a way to selectively build just the PyUno Module? Also, do you have any
 suggestions as to where I can begin? I am a newbie and am becoming
 somewhat overwhelmed at what has become quite a daunting task.
 
 Thanks, in advance, for any help you can provide.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Seth
 
 
 BTW: building OOo on Mac OS X 10.7 is not easy. It doesn't work out of
 the box. You have at least to back to the 10.4 SDK and XCode 3.2.6.

 Please see the discussion here:


 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201109.mbox/%3ce0296709-0cf0-4494-a518-e11f32e74...@herrmannsdorfer.de%3e

 Regards,
 Mathias
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[dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial

2011-10-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
What I can't figure out from the use case is why isn't Seth 
developing a plug-in for Microsoft Word if it is about Word documents and
Microsoft Word is being used to view the document already?

So, what else is there to the use case that would make it clear why
code from OO.o is needed?


 - Dennis E. Hamilton
   tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid



-Original Message-
From: Mathias Bauer [mailto:nospamfor...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 14:27
To: dev@openoffice.org
Subject: [dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial

Hi Seth,

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve.

OOo should have PyUno and - if it is a build provided by Oracle - its
own version of Python and both should fit to each other. Admittedly I'm
not completely sure about that, if you have bad luck, even the Oracle
builds didn't contain an own Python. But if you build OOo by yourself,
you should be able to make sure that OOo's own copy of Python is used in
the build (and thus put into the installation set) and not the version
of the system. See what configure offers you with regard to Python.

Regards,
Mathias
Am 10.10.2011 05:41, schrieb Seth Shich:

 HI Mathias,
 
 Thanks for the information. Perhaps, I should tell you why I want to
 build OOo, and, then, maybe you could suggest what course I should take. 
 
 I am trying to get PyUno working so that I can read and interface with
 .doc and .docx files (e.g. highlight certain words in documents, such as
 proper names) while they are being viewed by users in MsWord. The
 problem is that PyUno links against Python2.3 and, therefore, I cannot
 run it on Mac OS X 10.7.1: 10.7.1 does not have Python2.3 in its
 complete form, and, at any rate, I wouldn't want to use that Python
 version because it would prevent imports of other modules requiring
 later Python versions. PyUno, then, must be made to link against either
 Python 2.6.7 or Python 2.7, the Python versions I have on my system.
 But, how to do this?
 
 I read here, at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/mac@porting.openoffice.org/msg03582.html, that: 
 
 Those who build OOo by themselves will be able to just use
 --with[out]-system-python, but only very, very few Mac users will
 build their own copy of OOo. Thus it is important to decide on the
 default, what the installsets offered from www.openoffice.org will
 include (or not include)
 
 At this stage, I have downloaded the entire repository for OOo. Is there
 a way to selectively build just the PyUno Module? Also, do you have any
 suggestions as to where I can begin? I am a newbie and am becoming
 somewhat overwhelmed at what has become quite a daunting task.
 
 Thanks, in advance, for any help you can provide.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Seth
 
 
 BTW: building OOo on Mac OS X 10.7 is not easy. It doesn't work out of
 the box. You have at least to back to the 10.4 SDK and XCode 3.2.6.

 Please see the discussion here:


 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201109.mbox/%3ce0296709-0cf0-4494-a518-e11f32e74...@herrmannsdorfer.de%3e

 Regards,
 Mathias
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[dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial

2011-10-10 Thread Seth Shich

I was under the impression that I could use OOo's PyUno to read and manipulate 
.doc and .docx files from Python and even to interact with those files while 
they are opened. Is this not correct? If it is, I would prefer to use Python 
because of its natural language processing capabilities (e.g. NLTK). Also, if I 
can avoid having to spend between $600 and $1,000 to read .doc and .docx 
through Microsoft Visual Studio, I would certainly prefer to do so.

 From: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 To: dev@openoffice.org
 CC: sethsh...@hotmail.com
 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:08:18 -0700
 Subject: [dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial
 
 What I can't figure out from the use case is why isn't Seth 
 developing a plug-in for Microsoft Word if it is about Word documents and
 Microsoft Word is being used to view the document already?
 
 So, what else is there to the use case that would make it clear why
 code from OO.o is needed?
 
 
  - Dennis E. Hamilton
tools for document interoperability,  http://nfoWorks.org/
dennis.hamil...@acm.org  gsm: +1-206-779-9430  @orcmid
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mathias Bauer [mailto:nospamfor...@gmx.de] 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 14:27
 To: dev@openoffice.org
 Subject: [dev] Re: Problems downloading source through Mercurial
 
 Hi Seth,
 
 I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve.
 
 OOo should have PyUno and - if it is a build provided by Oracle - its
 own version of Python and both should fit to each other. Admittedly I'm
 not completely sure about that, if you have bad luck, even the Oracle
 builds didn't contain an own Python. But if you build OOo by yourself,
 you should be able to make sure that OOo's own copy of Python is used in
 the build (and thus put into the installation set) and not the version
 of the system. See what configure offers you with regard to Python.
 
 Regards,
 Mathias
 Am 10.10.2011 05:41, schrieb Seth Shich:
 
  HI Mathias,
  
  Thanks for the information. Perhaps, I should tell you why I want to
  build OOo, and, then, maybe you could suggest what course I should take. 
  
  I am trying to get PyUno working so that I can read and interface with
  .doc and .docx files (e.g. highlight certain words in documents, such as
  proper names) while they are being viewed by users in MsWord. The
  problem is that PyUno links against Python2.3 and, therefore, I cannot
  run it on Mac OS X 10.7.1: 10.7.1 does not have Python2.3 in its
  complete form, and, at any rate, I wouldn't want to use that Python
  version because it would prevent imports of other modules requiring
  later Python versions. PyUno, then, must be made to link against either
  Python 2.6.7 or Python 2.7, the Python versions I have on my system.
  But, how to do this?
  
  I read here, at
  http://www.mail-archive.com/mac@porting.openoffice.org/msg03582.html, that: 
  
  Those who build OOo by themselves will be able to just use
  --with[out]-system-python, but only very, very few Mac users will
  build their own copy of OOo. Thus it is important to decide on the
  default, what the installsets offered from www.openoffice.org will
  include (or not include)
  
  At this stage, I have downloaded the entire repository for OOo. Is there
  a way to selectively build just the PyUno Module? Also, do you have any
  suggestions as to where I can begin? I am a newbie and am becoming
  somewhat overwhelmed at what has become quite a daunting task.
  
  Thanks, in advance, for any help you can provide.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Seth
  
  
  BTW: building OOo on Mac OS X 10.7 is not easy. It doesn't work out of
  the box. You have at least to back to the 10.4 SDK and XCode 3.2.6.
 
  Please see the discussion here:
 
 
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201109.mbox/%3ce0296709-0cf0-4494-a518-e11f32e74...@herrmannsdorfer.de%3e
 
  Regards,
  Mathias
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