[OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Radomír Černoch
Dear Openstreetmap community, My name is Radomir Cernoch and as a long-time OSM user, I have recently started creating maps. I must say I was quite surprised, how difficult it is to start producing maps in a proper way and good quality -- the possibilities and complexness of OSM is quite high.

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Allan
2009/3/25 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Miércoles, 25 de Marzo de 2009, José Ricardo escribió: My interests are converging into the area of ubiquitous computing in which localization plays a significant role (navigation, context awareness, ...) as well as mobile development,

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:36, Radomír Černoch wrote: Since I am a student (doing AI, knowledge engineering specialism) I thought about the currently running GSoC 2009, in which OSM takes part. My idea, which I am proposing, is to build a taxonomy of map elements formalised in an ontology, which

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Allan
2009/3/25 Radomír Černoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com: Firstly create the initial ontology to support at least all official map elements. Hi Radomír, There's no such thing. In fact, the lack of a fixed/official ontology is held as one of the key defining attributes of the success, flexibility

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/25 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Miércoles, 25 de Marzo de 2009, José Ricardo escribió: My interests are converging into the area of ubiquitous computing in which localization plays a significant

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Marc Schütz
2009/3/25 Radomír Černoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com: Firstly create the initial ontology to support at least all official map elements. Hi Radomír, There's no such thing. In fact, the lack of a fixed/official ontology is held as one of the key defining attributes of the success,

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: or even better - improve editing support in andnav for ways/relations* :-) /me FAIL. andnav isn't open-source, although parts of it might be re-used. cheers, matt ___ dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matthias Brandt
Matt Amos wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: or even better - improve editing support in andnav for ways/relations* :-) /me FAIL. andnav isn't open-source In opposition to Vespucci. My interests are converging into the area of ubiquitous computing

Re: [josm-dev] Better History

2009-03-25 Thread Igor Shubovych
2009/3/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, Igor Shubovych wrote: This demands completely changing of the OSM API. I only think if it is good idea to change the whole protocol just to make history more clear. No, I wasn't suggesting any API change. I said: Ideally of course, the

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Matthias Brandt mattelacchiato.l...@googlemail.com wrote: Matt Amos wrote: /me FAIL. andnav isn't open-source In opposition to Vespucci. i'd been looking for that editing screenshot you have of the large edit areas - i couldn't find it and assumed it must

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matthias Brandt
Matt Amos wrote: i'd been looking for that editing screenshot you have of the large edit areas - i couldn't find it and assumed it must have been an andnav screenshot. i've put a page on the OSM wiki linking to your google code project so i don't forget again! Oh, thanks! looks like an

[josm-dev] [PATCH] Allow line drawing for local GPX files only

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
The attached patch modifies the options for GPX line drawing to allow lines to be drawn only for files loaded from a local drive, and not for layers downloaded from the OSM server. Per-layer/file preferences still override this behaviour. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) # This patch file was

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Matthias Brandt mattelacchiato.l...@googlemail.com wrote: Matt Amos wrote: looks like an excellent candidate for some help with the 0.6 API change? Yes, Vespucci has to be updated for API 0.6! Are you interested? yes, i'll definitely take a look at it.

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
The amount of 'potlatch' in the attached document is in my opinion again a bit too high. This ran on the planet export of yesterday. So I'll check it in today. I'll also run the 'hey, go away, empty way'-script but those are still to be detected. Stefan

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: The amount of 'potlatch' in the attached document As has been explained to you, you mean the amount of API ;) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-January/013768.html cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: The amount of 'potlatch' in the attached document As has been explained to you, you mean the amount of API ;) Yeah yeah... I knew this would trigger you to a response; My next mail includes the b0rk3d ways and relations. I can already tell

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Stefan de Konink wrote: I'll also run the 'hey, go away, empty way'-script but those are still to be detected. http://kinkrsoftware.nl/contrib/osm/brokenways.txt.gz The 'hey borked relation'-script output: http://kinkrsoftware.nl/contrib/osm/brokenrelations.txt.gz I'll download the ways

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/3/25 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: The amount of 'potlatch' in the attached document As has been explained to you, you mean the amount of API ;) Yeah yeah... I knew this would trigger you to a response; My next mail includes the

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Dave Stubbs wrote: 2009/3/25 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: The amount of 'potlatch' in the attached document As has been explained to you, you mean the amount of API ;) Yeah yeah... I knew this would trigger you to a response; My next

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: It's a known problem with a fix on the way with 0.6. Is this already checked that it will be fixed using 0.6? Since currently the API doesn't seem to be the problem, the lacking referential constraints inside the

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Hi Radomír four months ago we saw a similar discussion on this list. It lead to a proposal for a machine-readable map-feature list [1] and to a proposal for managing map features using Semantic MediaWiki, see the wiki prototype[2]. There is also an article on the OSM wiki which tries to explain

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: formalising knowledge in OSM

2009-03-25 Thread Etric Celine
Unfortunatelly, we didn't make any progress in the last two months. I'd still be interested in a well-managed machine-readable map feature list and I encourage you to pursue your ideas. The progress stopped because the current Wiki Server can't handle the Semantic MediaWiki extension in a

[josm-dev] style TIGER

2009-03-25 Thread Russ Nelson
I've made a slight change to my style file so that ways which have tiger:reviewed are rendered specially. It's important that people review the TIGER data because it's not so reliable. I'd like to get this into JOSM. Should I just submit a patch? -- --my blog is at

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: It's a known problem with a fix on the way with 0.6. Is this already checked that it will be fixed using 0.6? Since currently the API doesn't seem to be the problem, the lacking referential

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: It's a known problem with a fix on the way with 0.6. Is this already checked that it will be fixed using 0.6? Since currently

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Matt Amos wrote: yeah, the wiki page could probably do with some updating. but you remember this thread last month, right? http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-February/014024.html the issue with things referencing deleted items should go away because the transactions wrap the

Re: [josm-dev] [PATCH] Allow line drawing for local GPX files only

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan Breunig
Why isn't the current method suitable? All downloaded layers have the same name and therefore are normally customizable without additional effort. Greetings xeen 2009/3/25 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk: The attached patch modifies the options for GPX line drawing to allow

Re: [josm-dev] [PATCH] Allow line drawing for local GPX files only

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett wrote: The method used in this patch is based on the origin of the data, not what it happens to be named at the time. It's far more robust. ...plus it's better usability. With my patch, the user can see that this functionality is possible, explicitly. The other method requires

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/3/25 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Matt Amos wrote: yeah, the wiki page could probably do with some updating. but you remember this thread last month, right? http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-February/014024.html the issue with things referencing deleted items

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Stefan de Konink wrote: So I collected all the 'problematic' things. I think by what you mention, it can be trivially fixed just by fetching all nodes and reinserting them again? s/nodes/ways ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-dev] GSoC Ideas

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wicks
Hello all, My name is Paul Wicks and I am a Computer Science major at the University of Puget Sound and I am interested in taking part in the Google of Summer of Code for the OSM project. The idea in the list that seemed to appeal to me most was the creation of a Static Map API. I'd be very

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC Ideas

2009-03-25 Thread Milo van der Linden
Paul Wicks wrote: Hello all, My name is Paul Wicks and I am a Computer Science major at the University of Puget Sound and I am interested in taking part in the Google of Summer of Code for the OSM project. The idea in the list that seemed to appeal to me most was the creation of a

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC Ideas

2009-03-25 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 25 de Marzo de 2009, Milo van der Linden escribió: Mapnik could act as a wms server, but this would not be good for performance since all rendering would be done straight from the openstreetmap db on the fly. You're wrong - mapnik depends on a local PostgreSQL database, not on

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [Sequal]

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Matt Amos wrote: the issue with things referencing deleted items should go away because the transactions wrap the used-by checks. True; But isn't Rails doing that now too? [I am talking about the main database] no.