Re: [OSM-dev] RAM requirement for osm2pgsql without slim?

2009-12-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/9 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi,    what is the current RAM requirement for running osm2pgsql on the whole planet in non-slim mode? Is 16 MB still sufficient for that, or does it require more in the mean time? I think its more like 16GB. ie more memory that any 32bit OS can

Re: [OSM-dev] RAM requirement for osm2pgsql without slim?

2009-12-09 Thread John Smith
2009/12/9 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: 2009/12/9 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi,    what is the current RAM requirement for running osm2pgsql on the whole planet in non-slim mode? Is 16 MB still sufficient for that, or does it require more in the mean time? I think its more like

Re: [OSM-dev] RAM requirement for osm2pgsql without slim?

2009-12-09 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 9 de Diciembre de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: what is the current RAM requirement for running osm2pgsql on the whole planet in non-slim mode? Is 16 MB still sufficient for that, or does it require more in the mean time? What are you trying to do with that 80386? :-P --

[OSM-dev] full history planet (experimental)

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
hi devs, i've just finished running Lars' full history planet dumper and the results are here: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/full-experimental/full-planet-091207.osm.bz2 (13Gb) although a skim through the file shows nothing obviously wrong, this should be considered experimental. please report

Re: [OSM-dev] RAM requirement for osm2pgsql without slim?

2009-12-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 9 de Diciembre de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: what is the current RAM requirement for running osm2pgsql on the whole planet in non-slim mode? Is 16 MB still sufficient for that, or does it require more in the mean time? What are you trying

Re: [OSM-dev] full history planet (experimental)

2009-12-09 Thread 80n
Matt Thanks for doing this (and Lars for writing it). I assume it doesn't include the history that was deleted when segments were converted to ways? I recall that it was archived somewhere. Would it be possible to make that available in some form? 80n On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Matt

Re: [OSM-dev] full history planet (experimental)

2009-12-09 Thread Lars Francke
I assume it doesn't include the history that was deleted when segments were converted to ways? No, it doesn't. I recall that it was archived somewhere.  Would it be possible to make that available in some form? Personal data etc. needs to be stripped from that data first. Tom tried to load

Re: [OSM-dev] full history planet (experimental)

2009-12-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/12/09 17:26, Lars Francke wrote: Personal data etc. needs to be stripped from that data first. Tom tried to load the old database dump into a MySQL instance but the horntail server crashed twice during that attempt. Correct. I don't know what the current status is. I haven't

Re: [OSM-dev] [Maps-l] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread 80n
Something like this is well within the capabilities of XAPI and I had already downloaded a copy of the full history and was just starting to think about what should be done with it. 80n On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.dewrote: Hi Now that we have a full

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/12/09 20:27, Peter Körner wrote: Such an api could create heavy load on the underlying database, what is AFAIR the main reason why such calls aren't implemented in the current api. But unlike on the main api, queries to an such a history api don't need to be answered in miliseconds.

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: You may not mind that it takes 15 minutes to answer your query but the problem is that long query times like that probably won't scale because if an average query takes 15 minutes then the server (assuming that we're talking an I/O bound process) can only handle four

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Frederik Ramm schreef: Tom Hughes wrote: You may not mind that it takes 15 minutes to answer your query but the problem is that long query times like that probably won't scale because if an average query takes 15 minutes then the server

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, 80n wrote: Something like this is well within the capabilities of XAPI and I had already downloaded a copy of the full history and was just starting to think about what should be done with it. Stefan de Konink wrote: Already forwarded this e-mail to the head of our department to get

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Frederik Ramm schreef: I wonder if there is already an Internet law that says something like: Those with the most energy to solve a problem will likely also be those employing the most exotic tools to do it. Oh, yeah I could ofcourse

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Map Browser Application

2009-12-09 Thread Stefan Ziegler
Hello, Original-Nachricht From: Bruce Skingle bruce.skin...@immutify.com Subject: [OSM-dev] OSM Map Browser Application I've been working on a map browser project, and I have some code I'm ready to think about releasing (free, with source, under the Eclipse Public

Re: [OSM-dev] History API Server

2009-12-09 Thread Lars Francke
Hi Peter, as far as I can see all that you've described will be available in the new OSMdoc version (including 'minor' versions when a node for a way is updated). This is if everything goes according to plan and I don't have to delete a whole bunch of data because of the license change. But the

Re: [OSM-dev] RAM requirement for osm2pgsql without slim?

2009-12-09 Thread Jon Burgess
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 12:48 +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/12/9 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: I think its more like 16GB. I don't think that's still enough, Germany alone reaches the max of about 4.5GB RAM usage in non-slim mode and filesizes indicate it's only about 1/10th of the

Re: [josm-dev] Geometric calculations and projections

2009-12-09 Thread Matthew W. S. Bell
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 23:22 -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: IMHO, all those calculations should ideally be done using great circles. For most practical purposes using linear approximation with latlon directly is probably good enough for most practical purposes. Using Mercator for this might give