Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-05 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi, Sorry if this would be better suited for talk (or another) mailing list. Just following a thread that was started here, for good reason. Sincerely, I am surprised to see that there could be tension around that proposal. It is not about adding objects to the map, but actually about removing

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, Sorry if this would be better suited for talk (or another) mailing list. Just following a thread that was started here, for good reason. Sincerely, I am surprised to see that there could be tension around that

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 June 2011 03:22, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Why must the problem of rendering surface tags be solved on a specific rendered layer or service? The answer is obvious, it's easier to push a small change onto the main mapnik layer than running their own system. I'm not sure how

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-05 Thread Jaak Laineste
2011/6/5 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 6 June 2011 03:22, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Why must the problem of rendering surface tags be solved on a specific rendered layer or service? The answer is obvious, it's easier to push a small change onto the main mapnik layer

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 June 2011 04:32, Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: relevant for officials and no much more. So also in our cartographic tradition we still use primary dimension (colors) for surface, and secondary (width, style) for other road parameters. Australia has a large amount of dirt

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/3 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com: An argument to support rendering the surface tag in Mapnik (for example as proposed in the trac ticket, at the scales where it would be visible) is that it would make mapping easier in countries where unpaved roads or streets are common, by

Re: [OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Besides the show everything you can vs clean approaches, I think there is a topo map vs web map difference in approach. I'm not sure if it's a coincidence or due to cooperation, but Ordnance Survey topos and USGS topos look fairly similar. I've long looked at the USGS topos as really nice maps

[OSM-dev] Rendering of surface

2011-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, there's a guy on help.openstreetmap.org named Ursus who seems to be in real pain to have some kind of rendering of the surface key on the Mapnik map, or at least an answer to his question whether this will ever be done. I've closed two of his questions as I believe that help.osm is