Re: [OSM-dev] Minute Diffs and 0.6 Breakages

2009-04-22 Thread Brett Henderson
The minute diffs are lagging by over half an hour at the moment. The system clock on the dev server appears to be incorrect. Perhaps I should query the database server for the current system time ... Brett Henderson wrote: Hi All, I'm cross-posting to dev and talk. Please reply to dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset Revert Tool

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ian Dees wrote: Can we start a thread discussing what is required/wanted in a changeset tool? What should such a tool do besides revert changes from changeset x? I think it would be best to first concentrate on some kind of OpenAuth support (or something homebuilt) that would allow a

Re: [OSM-dev] contribution and usage of maps

2009-04-22 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Mohamad Ali mohamad@intellitrac.com.au wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong : What you mean is this:  we can use openlayer.js for our own server We include openlayer.js on our website and We just need to point the openlayer.js to our server url? look at

Re: [OSM-dev] asking for open layers

2009-04-22 Thread Steven te Brinke
Hello, OpenLayers can easily be used off-line, just change the URL where it should retrieve the tiles from to a local URL. Steven ahmed soua schreef: Hi all, my question is : is it possible to work with Open layers and obtain slippy map of my country without an internet connection . ( I

Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Automatic Street-Sign Detection and Reading - was: [GSoC] A GPX photo stamper.

2009-04-22 Thread Tijs Zwinkels
Just a quick note to let everyone know this project (among others) has been accepted into the google Summer of Code http://tinyurl.com/gsocosm! Thank you as the OpenStreetMap community for your trust, and, ehm, hurray! :) Stefan will be mentoring. There has already been contact, and shortly I'll

Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset Revert Tool

2009-04-22 Thread Lars Francke
Can we start a thread discussing what is required/wanted in a changeset tool? What should such a tool do besides revert changes from changeset x? I think it would be best to first concentrate on some kind of OpenAuth support (or something homebuilt) that would allow a third-party application

[OSM-dev] Tiles and Postgis

2009-04-22 Thread ahmed soua
Hi all, I have downloaded tiles from the tiles open steet map server using JTiledownloader. My question* is it possible to put these tiles into a postgis Database to use them to have slippy map of my country.* Thanks. Ahmed -- Le bonheur est comme l'écho : il vous répond : mais il ne vient pas.

Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset Revert Tool

2009-04-22 Thread Lars Francke
Can we start a thread discussing what is required/wanted in a changeset tool? What should such a tool do besides revert changes from changeset x? After re-reading your mail I see that I too missed your point, sorry. I'd like to have a tool which can revert a single changeset by id and it

Re: [OSM-dev] Tiles and Postgis

2009-04-22 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 22 de Abril de 2009, ahmed soua escribió: Hi all, I have downloaded tiles from the tiles open steet map server using JTiledownloader. My question* is it possible to put these tiles into a postgis Database to use them to have slippy map of my country.* It'd be much better to

Re: [OSM-dev] [josm-dev] Garbled relation tag values

2009-04-22 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
2009/4/22 Gregory Williams gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk: Well I was totally wrong with my theory below -- I've still got much Ruby to learn. Thanks to zere for fixing the issue in trac changeset 14662. And which relations where else garbled due to this bug in those one and a

Re: [OSM-dev] contribution and usage of maps

2009-04-22 Thread Colin Marquardt
2009/4/22 Mohamad Ali mohamad@intellitrac.com.au: Thanks Simone, actually you are right, good article we will test doing that, But we have more questions: If we build our own tiling server,, we need api like openlayers api, how do we use openlayers api on our server? This might be

Re: [OSM-dev] Tiles and Postgis

2009-04-22 Thread Chris Jones
ahmed soua wrote: Hi all, I have downloaded tiles from the tiles open steet map server using JTiledownloader. My question* is it possible to put these tiles into a postgis Database to use them to have slippy map of my country.* Thanks. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik --

Re: [OSM-dev] Tiles and Postgis

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM, ahmed soua ahmed.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have downloaded tiles from the tiles open steet map server using JTiledownloader. My question is it possible to put these tiles into a postgis Database to use them  to have slippy map of my country. Thanks.

Re: [OSM-dev] implemented API for J2SE and J2ME

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: There were, I think, a number of people who made announcements of one kind or another (almost completed implementation of new namefinder etc) on talk-de, but nothing final has ever come out, I'll inquire about the status and report. The status is, basically, that

[OSM-dev] Namefinder replacements (was: Re: implemented API for J2SE and J2ME)

2009-04-22 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 07:41:56PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: The status is, basically, that everything is vapourware except the Geocoder in OpenRouteService which is closed-source due to ongoing academic activity. Well, vapourware is a bit hard, but at least my own implementation (see the

[OSM-dev] .NET components

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Vitt
Hello Dev-List, Are there any .NET components for OpenStreetMap e.g. API-Wrapper, BaseClassLibraries, or TileViewer? I recently started to work on a routing app for Windows Mobile phones and I want to share my work on the one hand but also use already existing components on the other.

Re: [OSM-dev] speedup of the API migration?

2009-04-22 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2009, 18:29 +0200 schrieb Jonas Krückel (John07): The downtime seemed quite long for me I myself was actually impressed by the speed. Congratulations :) Sincerely, Joachim ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] .NET components

2009-04-22 Thread Etric Celine
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 21:40:25 schrieb Peter Vitt: Are there any .NET components for OpenStreetMap e.g. API-Wrapper, BaseClassLibraries, or TileViewer? The only available libs are for ruby, perl and java and qt4 so far Even any developer interested in such .NET components are welcome.

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: My fear is that especially newbies are prevented from uploading stuff: what do I have to add here?!? - please remember: not everyone has several years of subversion or wikipedia experience. We'll add a help button to explain. But, what puzzles me most (if I

Re: [OSM-dev] .NET components

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Vitt
Etric Celine schrieb: Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 21:40:25 schrieb Peter Vitt: Even any developer interested in such .NET components are welcome. This way we can consolidate ideas and designs. You could talk to the Kosmos [1] dev. according to his last blog posts he is redesigning

[OSM-dev] Full History Files

2009-04-22 Thread Brett Henderson
If anybody is interested I've put some sample full history changesets on the planet server to give people an idea of what is possible. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/history This may not be the best way of providing full history, but it is something I could produce on a daily/hourly/minute

[OSM-dev] Expect error 417 is back

2009-04-22 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, osm2go stopped working with error 417 in all transactions. This likely means that curl is having the problem with http expect again. Did you switch back from apache to that old broken server? Till ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [josm-dev] josm-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5

2009-04-22 Thread Женя Деревянкин
I was also annoyed by the need to describe the changesets. Especially yesterday, when I had to do 5 attempts to upload a changeset - and every time I had to type in a description. So remembering the last description would make things easier. And about the interface - I think it would be more

Re: [josm-dev] Localize new strings in my plugin

2009-04-22 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Henrik Niehaus wrote: I have a question concerning my openstreetbugs plugin. I have added new strings and want to translate them. What do I have to do? The gettext support for my plugin has been added by Dirk, I think, and I don't have a clue how this works. This is done

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Lars Francke
But honestly, what would you say from a user interface perspective; should we try and keep changesets open? What JOSM currently does is open changeset - upload - close, for each upoad action. Some people have a habit of uploading once every five minutes and they are perhaps annoyed to have to

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: But honestly, what would you say from a user interface perspective; should we try and keep changesets open? What JOSM currently does is open changeset What I would like to see is that JOSM works like a wiki : when I click

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: JOSM will not allow you to omit the comment, much as SVN doesn't allow you to commit without a message. Meaningful comments are vital to the usability of the whole changeset thing and while I can't (yet) force people to

Re: [josm-dev] Localize new strings in my plugin

2009-04-22 Thread Henrik Niehaus
Dirk Stöcker schrieb: On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Henrik Niehaus wrote: I have a question concerning my openstreetbugs plugin. I have added new strings and want to translate them. What do I have to do? The gettext support for my plugin has been added by Dirk, I think, and I don't have a clue how

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Greg Troxel
I can see why some people would find the comment requirement annoying, but coming from using svn for source code it seems very natural to me. I added a bunch of nodes for shops in my town last night and had no trouble typing add some stores in Lower Village, and move some or something like that.

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: JOSM will not allow you to omit the comment, much as SVN doesn't allow you to commit without a message. Meaningful comments are vital to the usability of the whole changeset thing and

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Maarten Deen
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Even if it's only fuck you? Because that's the sort of crap we'll get in the database because JOSM is forcing commit messages on people. Yes, if the user so dislikes being communicative then let him put fuck you there and be

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Maarten Deen wrote: If a user gets his changes reverted more often because of the message he writes, than I think the system is wrong, not the message. Edits should be judged on the edit, not on the message that accompanies it. I could very well imagine having edits which are questionable

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Pieren wrote: If I have to choose, I prefere contributors making good quality editions with no comments than contributors making bad quality stuff with nice comments. Yes but why would you have to choose. Someone who values OSM high enough to devote time and quality work to it can be

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread David Earl
On 22/04/2009 14:44, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I am surprised that it requires explanation. Can you imagine the usefulness of http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets without descriptions? Nobody is arguing

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Russ Nelson
Pieren writes: like to describe my changes but not always. But when I see that I have to do it, it makes me so angry that I write anything excepted what I could kindly write otherwise. Does it make you angry that you have to click in the Upload button to commit your changes? OSM has been

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Yes but why would you have to choose. Someone who values OSM high enough to devote time and quality work to it can be expected to describe in a few words what he is uploading. Why would he say no? The value of the contribution is so much higher if others can, in an

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: But, what puzzles me most (if I understand it correct) is that only JOSM has this policy. If it's such a vital interest to the probject, why doesn't the API forces the comments? It's really strange if you add

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: But, what puzzles me most (if I understand it correct) is that only JOSM has this policy. If it's such a vital interest to the probject, why doesn't the API forces the comments?

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: My fear is that especially newbies are prevented from uploading stuff: what do I have to add here?!? - please remember: not everyone has several years of subversion or wikipedia experience. We'll add a help button to explain. Making the

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: My fear is that especially newbies are prevented from uploading stuff: what do I have to add here?!? - please remember: not everyone has several years of subversion or wikipedia experience. We'll add a help button to explain. Making the GUI complicated and adding

Re: [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Hi, Uncommented changes are worth less than those with comments. Let's combine our efforts to make it as easy and comfortable for everyone to add meaningful comments, and we all gain from it. Here's a possible patch: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/2442 It still enforces a commit comment