Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I am using the defauls, which turn out to be min-spares=1 and max-spares=2. I think that I will change that. In any case, at least here, the only change seems to be that the message is more verbose and scarier. I'm also OK with the release BUT I would like to know WHY the messages are more

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-25 Thread Mark Martinec
On Monday 25 January 2010 15:40:06 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I'm also OK with the release BUT I would like to know WHY the messages are more verbose and scarier. There is some underlying cause for these messages. The message now includes the exit status of a finished child process. Previously

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-24 Thread Thomas Schulz
Jan 22 13:10:01 talonjr spamd[8959]: spamd: handled cleanup of child pid [8972] due to SIGCHLD: INTERRUPTED, signal 2 (0002) Are these just more informative? Since a quick look of 3.2.5 shows the same info() line, I'm worried that this isn't good. I had 0 of these before with 3.2.5 and

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-24 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 24/01/2010 1:23 PM, Thomas Schulz wrote: Jan 22 13:10:01 talonjr spamd[8959]: spamd: handled cleanup of child pid [8972] due to SIGCHLD: INTERRUPTED, signal 2 (0002) Are these just more informative? Since a quick look of 3.2.5 shows the same info() line, I'm worried that this isn't

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-24 Thread Thomas Schulz
I think in both Tom and Kevin's cases this is caused by their min-spares and max-spares settings. Tom didn't show his settings, but Kevin's got min-spares=5 and max-spares=6. That means that if two children finish their work while another is being spawned, that new child is going to be

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
+1 to this cut. Running it in production, it survived a DDoS mail flood earlier today and it passes all tests. I'm happy to report that two test servers passed make test without issue. And one was using long_tests and net_tests set to y. A third is in progress now I also installed this

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday 22 January 2010 19:28:28 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Since moving the server to 3.3.0, I'm seeing these in the logs that were not there before: Jan 22 13:10:01 talonjr spamd[8959]: spamd: handled cleanup of child pid [8972] due to SIGCHLD: INTERRUPTED, signal 2 (0002) Are these just

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/22/2010 01:28 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Jan 22 13:10:01 talonjr spamd[8959]: spamd: handled cleanup of child pid [8972] due to SIGCHLD: INTERRUPTED, signal 2 (0002) Are these just more informative? Since a quick look of 3.2.5 shows the same info() line, I'm worried that this isn't good.

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Martinec
This is different between 3.2 and 3.3, maybe it explains the symptoms: $$Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::LOG_SA{INHIBIT_LOGGING_IN_SIGCHLD_HANDLER}) { Don't know why this changed and which is right. Probably unrelated and false lead. The new one seems to be correct. So ... no idea. Mark

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
FWIW I've had these for months seemingly without any ill effect. 3.3.0 changed: unless ($Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::LOG_SA{INHIBIT_LOGGING_IN_SIGCHLD_HANDLER}) { from unless ($$Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::LOG_SA{INHIBIT_LOGGING_IN_SIGCHLD_HANDLER}) { That doesn't seem to be the cause.

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday January 22 2010 20:38:38 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: /usr/local/bin/spamd -d --min-spare=5 --min-children=5 --max-conn-per-child=1000 --max-children=40 -q -x -u spamd --allowed-ips=127.0.0.1,removed -i removed -r /var/run/spamd.pid Are these just more informative? Since a quick look

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-21 Thread João Gouveia
Hi Kevin, - Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: I was speaking solely on JM's comment that this could affect anubis' network. I'd rather not release a DDoS if the intent was to only test those rules and somehow it sneaks into a new release that might get wide support from

PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Justin Mason
-3.3.0.zip 6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote! -- --j.

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-21 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/21/2010 06:36 AM, João Gouveia wrote: Currently the impact would most likely be like a shot in the foot. We simply do not yet have the necessary infrastructure in place to handle the expected traffic. This will change (hopefully soon), but for now it would be best not to publish the

PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread jm
8e425d21593140ee3a6ae0cb7a30d515b6227c95 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.zip 6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote! -- --j.

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Martinec
On Thursday 21 January 2010 13:30:58 Justin Mason wrote: here's the new recut. http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/ : Good! please vote! +1 announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt A small mistake in release notes regarding sa-update: r901724 Minor tweaks

Wrong checksums? Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/21/2010 07:30 AM, Justin Mason wrote: sha1sum of archive files: 5e639ccf5773e3a1781285ea104f05394b5ea1b0 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 209a97102e2c0568f6ae8151e5a55cd949317b69 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 Did

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Justin Mason
-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.zip  6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote! -- --j. -- --j.

Re: Wrong checksums? Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Martinec
http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r901671.tgz Is this the new rules? Yes. sha1 http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 209a97102e2c0568f6ae8151e5a55cd949317b69 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 Yes. Wrong checksums in the posting

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Warren Togami
6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote! For the announcement mind if I send it out? I can avoid wrapping of the long line. Warren

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Justin Mason
 8e425d21593140ee3a6ae0cb7a30d515b6227c95  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.zip  6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote! For the announcement mind if I send it out?  I can

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Yet Another Ninja
598eebc4791dc7c7b958d87f9a33ecaef12edd09 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.gz 8e425d21593140ee3a6ae0cb7a30d515b6227c95 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.zip 6f642382d7870c2cb542f50b22a0adb250165c6f Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0.r900610.tgz announcement mail: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0.txt please vote

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0

2010-01-21 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/21/2010 11:16 AM, Justin Mason wrote: argh! sorry, sent out the wrong sums, as Warren spotted. The correct sums are: md5sum of archive files: 15af629a95108bf245ab600d78ae754b Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 38078b07396c0ab92b46386bc70ef086 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.gz

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Martinec
proposed release announcement mail is there, too. We need 3 +1 votes and no -1's over the next 72 hours to bless this as an official release. Here is my +1 for both the code and the rules. One caveat with the rules is Bug 6295, which should be fixed with the next sa-update. Whether this is

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:29, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: proposed release announcement mail is there, too.   We need 3 +1 votes and no -1's over the next 72 hours to bless this as an official release. Here is my +1 for both the code and the rules. One caveat with the

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
##{ FH_BAD_OEV1441 @@ -3219,2 +3214,6 @@ header __RATWARE_BOUND_B ALL =~ /boundary==_NextPart_000__([0-9a-f]{8})\..{10,400}^Message-Id: \1\$[0-9a-f]{8}\$/msi # +header __RCVD_IN_ANBREP eval:check_rbl('anubisrep-lastexternal', 'c.anubisnetworks.com.') +tflags

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Martinec
it should be pretty harmless in terms of effects on users, but will increase the anubisnetworks.com query load, which they may not appreciate. I don't think it needs to block 3.3.0, though. Good catch. I never would have caught that already. But I think we should definitely

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
But the __* rules have a score of 0 and are not used unless invoked from some meta rule, which is not the case here (am I right?). There is no big deal, as far as I can tell. I was speaking solely on JM's comment that this could affect anubis' network. I'd rather not release a DDoS if the

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 15:30:31 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: But the __* rules have a score of 0 and are not used unless invoked from some meta rule, which is not the case here (am I right?). There is no big deal, as far as I can tell. I was speaking solely on JM's comment that this

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:27, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: it should be pretty harmless in terms of effects on users, but will increase the anubisnetworks.com query load, which they may not appreciate. I don't think it needs to block 3.3.0, though. Good catch.  I never

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 15:42:10 Justin Mason wrote: I'm not certain, but I believe the __* rules _will_ be run, whether they're called from a meta rule or not, unless explicitly disabled using score __FOO 0. they don't provide a score, but they are still run. You are right, confirmed.

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
So, does recutting the rules tarball stall the publishing by another three days? As the announcement says, rules are no longer part of the distribution. Great Though! Do we have a procedure on the release of new rules? Regards, KAM

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:59, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: On Wednesday 20 January 2010 15:42:10 Justin Mason wrote: I'm not certain, but I believe the __* rules _will_ be run, whether they're called from a meta rule or not, unless explicitly disabled using score __FOO 0.  

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
can someone open a bug about this issue? ignore, just spotted it. ;) -- --j.

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/20/2010 06:29 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Another thing I noticed, comparing the resulting rules from network sa-update to rules installed from a tarball is the inclusion of two 'nopublish' rules in the tarball. As these are both meta rules, this should not be a blocker. How did these

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Mason wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:27, Mark Martinecmark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: it should be pretty harmless in terms of effects on users, but will increase the anubisnetworks.com query load, which they may not appreciate. I don't think it needs to block

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
in the proposed 3.3.0 release rules tarball (and therefore the proposed 3.3.0 channel). Regards, KAM

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Warren Togami
went out to the sa-update channel. It's in the proposed 3.3.0 release rules tarball (and therefore the proposed 3.3.0 channel). Regards, KAM Recut happening today? That should give us a good amount of non-weekend days to validate the new cut and the release will be closer to the Tuesday press

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
should be a blocker for 3.3.0. However, I don't know for sure that it ever went out to the sa-update channel. It's in the proposed 3.3.0 release rules tarball (and therefore the proposed 3.3.0 channel). Regards, KAM Recut happening today?  That should give us a good amount of non-weekend

gpg keys, was Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-19 Thread Justin Mason
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:43, Sidney Markowitz sid...@sidney.com wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote, On 19/01/10 3:41 PM: Skimming... On 18/01/2010 9:10 PM, Sidney Markowitz wrote: There is a new signing key for the 3.3.0 release and which will be used for sa-update rules starting now. We're

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-19 Thread Justin Mason
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:10, Sidney Markowitz sid...@sidney.com wrote: Justin Mason wrote, On 19/01/10 12:55 PM: proposed release announcement mail is there, too.   We need 3 +1 votes and no -1's over the next 72 hours to bless this as an official release. I have an issue with the proposed

PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-18 Thread Justin Mason
Please try out the tarballs at: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/ md5sum of archive files: 58a439f930b49b0a3747c6caa738acc6 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.bz2 a24302ff6a3c410b5c6b84041877c914 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.gz ed99edd70819579bcc722411e1da49a1 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.zip

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-18 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/18/2010 07:33 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: On Tuesday January 19 2010 00:55:40 Justin Mason wrote: Please try out the tarballs at: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/ Looks good at first sight. More testing tomorrow. Mark

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-18 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Justin Mason wrote, On 19/01/10 12:55 PM: proposed release announcement mail is there, too. We need 3 +1 votes and no -1's over the next 72 hours to bless this as an official release. I have an issue with the proposed release announcement. Not enough for a hard -1 vote, but we can change it

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Skimming... On 18/01/2010 9:10 PM, Sidney Markowitz wrote: There is a new signing key for the 3.3.0 release and which will be used for sa-update rules starting now. We're still going to use the old key for updates for 3.2, if we do them, right? Forcing a key change for 3.2 would be bad, IMO.

Re: PROPOSED: 3.3.0 tarballs

2010-01-18 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote, On 19/01/10 3:41 PM: Skimming... On 18/01/2010 9:10 PM, Sidney Markowitz wrote: There is a new signing key for the 3.3.0 release and which will be used for sa-update rules starting now. We're still going to use the old key for updates for 3.2, if we do them,

PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
a10bdad497b9a4d336fc617aa495299f75dc3716 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc3.zip ecdc6bf631586b099f3222117bc2e79789dd9fa8 Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0-rc3.r899655.tgz proposed release announcement is there too: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0-rc3.txt please vote. cheers ;) -- --j.

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday 15 January 2010 16:29:42 Justin Mason wrote: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc Downloads are available from: please vote. cheers ;) If there is an intention to add 'use bytes' into Message.pm, then it would be better to do it in rc3, and not at the time of a final release. Mark

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Michael Parker
On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: On Friday 15 January 2010 16:29:42 Justin Mason wrote: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc Downloads are available from: please vote. cheers ;) If there is an intention to add 'use bytes' into Message.pm, then it would be better to do it in rc3

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc3.tar.gz a10bdad497b9a4d336fc617aa495299f75dc3716 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc3.zip ecdc6bf631586b099f3222117bc2e79789dd9fa8 Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0-rc3.r899655.tgz proposed release announcement is there too: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/PROPOSED-3.3.0-rc3

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/15/2010 11:13 AM, Warren Togami wrote: -1 Even though my rc3 was unofficial, it is entirely uncool from packager perspective to reuse names. Names are meaningless and cheap. This should have been named rc4. Furthermore I am unconvinced that we should change the use bytes thing at this

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/15/2010 11:25 AM, Warren Togami wrote: Could someone provide a sample message that takes an obscene amount of time? Warren Furthermore, what is releasing an official rc3 at this point going to gain us, especially if it will take 3 days to become an official release? Warren To be 100%

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
or reopen a past bug? Regards, KAM - Original Message - From: Justin Mason j...@jmason.org To: SpamAssassin Dev dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 Downloads are available from: http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/ md5sum

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 Downloads are available from:  http://people.apache.org/~jm/devel/ md5sum of archive files:  015d42846c819ce3aa286650bb54b53e  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc3.tar.bz2  be83248ba40ed12a20bc1f8aab8cfa7f  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc3.tar.gz  a35927c52d9554f0305af584097314c2

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/15/2010 12:08 PM, Justin Mason wrote: We've had miscommunication. I was the under the impression you were going to call your tarballs rc3-unofficial to differentiate them from the real rc3; this didn't match what you were thinking, clearly. We should have had a better agreement in

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/15/2010 11:38 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: t/timeout.ok 15/33# Failed test 16 in t/timeout.t at line 99 t/timeout.FAILED test 16 Failed 1/33 tests, 96.97% okay I saw something like this while cutting rc1. The test failed once, but I

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday 15 January 2010 17:38:38 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I tried simply a make test on the rc3 and failed on timeout.t and sa_compile.t with long tests and net tests. sa_compile is: t/sa_compile..ok 1/5Can't exec re2c: No such file or directory at

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
6.36 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:15, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/15/2010 11:38 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: t/timeout.ok 15/33# Failed test 16 in t/timeout.t at line 99 t/timeout.FAILED test 16 Failed 1/33 tests, 96.97% okay

RE: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Randal, Phil
Warren Togami wrote: On 01/15/2010 11:38 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: t/timeout.ok 15/33# Failed test 16 in t/timeout.t at line 99 t/timeout.FAILED test 16 Failed 1/33 tests, 96.97% okay I saw something like this while cutting rc1. The test

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
It can fail on a heavily loaded machine, as it is a real-time test. Before opening a bug, try it again. Sorry, wrong quote, I was referring to the: t/timeout.ok 15/33 # Failed test 16 in t/timeout.t at line 99 Mark

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
Mark, what version of MakeMaker is needed to satisfy those concerns you had about my cuts? Warren On 01/15/2010 12:20 PM, Justin Mason wrote: 6.36 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:15, Warren Togamiwtog...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/15/2010 11:38 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday 15 January 2010 18:20:58 Randal, Phil wrote: I had the same problem on a test CentOS 5.4 VM with with Warren's 3.3.0 rc3 yesterday. Also on the same test #16? Is this a virtual machine? I don't have much confidence in real-time timing on virtual machines. Mark

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
code. :-( regards, KAM - Original Message - From: Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 It can fail on a heavily loaded machine, as it is a real-time test. Before opening a bug, try

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Looks ok, except again for the missing 'license: apache', 'recommends:' and 'resources:' sections in META.yml due to using an older ExtUtils::MakeMaker (6.42 vs. 6.55). Mark, what version of MakeMaker is needed to satisfy those concerns you had about my cuts? Seems the

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Looks ok, except again for the missing 'license: apache', 'recommends:' and 'resources:' sections in META.yml due to using an older ExtUtils::MakeMaker (6.42 vs. 6.55). Mark, what version of MakeMaker is needed to satisfy those concerns you had about my cuts? Seems the

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Michael Parker wrote: If there is an intention to add 'use bytes' into Message.pm, then it would be better to do it in rc3, and not at the time of a final release. We really need a freqdiff with the use bytes change on as many messages as possible before I think its safe to go with the

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
On Friday, January 15, 2010, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Looks ok, except again for the missing 'license: apache', 'recommends:' and 'resources:' sections in META.yml due to using an older ExtUtils::MakeMaker (6.42 vs. 6.55). Mark, what version of MakeMaker is needed to

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
On Friday, January 15, 2010, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/15/2010 11:13 AM, Warren Togami wrote: -1 Even though my rc3 was unofficial, it is entirely uncool from packager perspective to reuse names. Names are meaningless and cheap. This should have been named rc4.

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Michael Parker
On Jan 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: Michael Parker wrote: If there is an intention to add 'use bytes' into Message.pm, then it would be better to do it in rc3, and not at the time of a final release. We really need a freqdiff with the use bytes change on as many messages as

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/15/2010 04:03 PM, Michael Parker wrote: BTW, I've seen this slowdown in some of the stuff I've been working on. I would be very happy if it was resolved for 3.3.0. +1 for getting use bytes changes into 3.3.0. Michael Are we certain this change is safe? Are the results of regex

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
@spamassassin.apache.org Subj:Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 On Friday, January 15, 2010, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/15/2010 11:13 AM, Warren Togami wrote: -1 Even though my rc3 was unofficial, it is entirely uncool from packager perspective to reuse names. Names are meaningless and cheap

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Can we make use bytes a .pre configurable option? --- Original Message --- From:Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com Sent:Fri 1/15/10 4:17 pm To:Michael Parker park...@pobox.com Cc:Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si, dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subj:Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 On 01/15/2010 04:03 PM

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
concensus now might be better done starting sunday or monday. --- Original Message --- From:Justin Mason j...@jmason.org Sent:Fri 1/15/10 3:45 pm To:Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com Cc:Justin Mason j...@jmason.org,SpamAssassin Dev dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subj:Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3

2010-01-15 Thread Michael Parker
. --- Original Message --- From:Justin Mason j...@jmason.org Sent:Fri 1/15/10 3:45 pm To:Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com Cc:Justin Mason j...@jmason.org,SpamAssassin Dev dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subj:Re: PROPOSED 3.3.0-rc3 On Friday, January 15, 2010, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/15

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-09 Thread Justin Mason
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 01:14, Mark Martinecmark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: t/whitelist_from.t fails because there is no 60_whitelist.cf in the rules directory (or subsequently in the log/test_rules_copy/). Same for t/spf.t, it is missing a 25_spf.cf and 60_whitelist_spf.cf files in rules.

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Martinec
On Sunday 09 August 2009 15:33:00 Justin Mason wrote: Updated t/data/01_test_rules.cf in trunk, r802274. does it fix the bug? I believe it does, according to my tests. if so, why? It adds the missing rules: header USER_IN_DEF_WHITELIST eval:check_from_in_default_whitelist() header

Re: sa-update --install first steps (was Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release)

2009-08-09 Thread Warren Togami
On 08/07/2009 03:45 PM, Warren Togami wrote: I might be missing something obvious, but what is the solution to this? I don't see it in INSTALL. Warren I can't run sa-update without --install during the RPM package build. The package builders are firewalled away from the network for security

Re: sa-update --install first steps (was Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release)

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Martinec
channel: updates.spamassassin.org: --install file Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0-alpha2.tgz does not contain a 3-digit version number! It appears that I want to run this after make install. Should I be renaming the tarball for now? What is the official way to use sa-update --install?

[vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Justin Mason
Hi all! here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! -- To: users, dev, announce Subject: ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha2 available Apache SpamAssassin

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Martinec
Justin Mason writes: Hi all! here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha2 is now available for testing. +1 Looks good, runs fine here. Perhaps a note on how to install rules would be in order, it always costs me a couple of minutes to

sa-update --install first steps (was Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release)

2009-08-07 Thread Justin Mason
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:56, Mark Martinecmark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Justin Mason writes: Hi all!  here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha2 is now available for testing. +1 Looks good, runs fine here. Perhaps a note on how

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release Justin Mason writes: Hi all! here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha2 is now available for testing. +1 Looks good

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Martinec
I'm unfortunately not sure on a +1. Still failing on SPF and whitelist tests. The Razor failures, you can ignore. Those are known issues. Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ---

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Good catch. So how to install the rules for the tests but not overwrite the main system installation? Regards, KAM - Original Message - From: Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Justin Mason
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 17:44, Mark Martinecmark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: I'm unfortunately not sure on a +1.  Still failing on SPF and whitelist tests. The Razor failures, you can ignore.  Those are known issues. Failed Test        Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed

Re: sa-update --install first steps (was Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release)

2009-08-07 Thread Warren Togami
On 08/07/2009 11:00 AM, Justin Mason wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:56, Mark Martinecmark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Justin Mason writes: Hi all! here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha2 is now available for testing. +1 Looks

RE: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Randal, Phil
Subject: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release Hi all! here's the announce mail and tarballs for this alpha. please vote! -- To: users, dev, announce Subject: ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0

Re: sa-update --install first steps (was Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release)

2009-08-07 Thread Warren Togami
On 08/07/2009 01:30 PM, Warren Togami wrote: that's in the INSTALL doc, right? but sure, it should probably be a paragraph in the announce mail because it'll catch everyone up. actually, IMO most people should probably just run sa-update without --install if possible... --j. I might be

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Warren Togami
On 08/07/2009 02:55 PM, Randal, Phil wrote: On my test box, Make install Fails to install v330.pre (it's not even mentioned in the config__install section of the Makefile). Cheers, Phil Makefile.PL contains... conf__install: -$(MKPATH) $(B_CONFDIR) $(PERL) -MFile::Copy -e

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha2 release

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Martinec
t/whitelist_from.t fails because there is no 60_whitelist.cf in the rules directory (or subsequently in the log/test_rules_copy/). Same for t/spf.t, it is missing a 25_spf.cf and 60_whitelist_spf.cf files in rules. Justin Mason wrote: those rules are all duplicated (more or less) in

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-03 Thread Mark Martinec
ok, that's 4 +1's -- Mark, go ahead and mention those tarballs if you like! (I'll leave them on /~jm/devel/ ). Thank you guys, and to Justin especially! My presentation on Amavis went well, many people attended, and I spent a couple of minutes on SpamAssassin 3.3, after making an official

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Justin Mason
BTW, don't forget. If you make install this, you need to either run sa-update immediately, or download the rules .tgz and sa-update --install it, as 3.3.0 doesn't come with any rules bundled by default. Anyone planning to give another +1 so Mark can talk about it tomorrow? ;) --j. On Wed, Jul

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 7/2/2009 11:40 AM, Justin Mason wrote: BTW, don't forget. If you make install this, you need to either run sa-update immediately, or download the rules .tgz and sa-update --install it, as 3.3.0 doesn't come with any rules bundled by default. Anyone planning to give another +1 so Mark can

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Martinec
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:13:52 +0200, Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: I'm running long tests and net tests and getting a lot of failures in the DKIM area. I'm running 0.28. Is this a known issue? Should I upgrade DKIM and try again which would like make me suggest a higher

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
, }, Regards, KAM - Original Message - From: Justin Mason j...@jmason.org To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release BTW, don't forget. If you make install this, you need to either run sa-update immediately

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
And/or edit the Mail::SpamAssassin::Util::DependencyInfo as well. - Original Message - From: Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com To: Justin Mason j...@jmason.org; dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release I'll

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
...ok Regards, KAM - Original Message - From: Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:13:52 +0200, Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: I'm

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Justin Mason
AM Subject: Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release BTW, don't forget.  If you make install this, you need to either run sa-update immediately, or download the rules .tgz and sa-update --install it, as 3.3.0 doesn't come with any rules bundled by default. Anyone planning to give another

Re: [vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-02 Thread Justin Mason
ok, that's 4 +1's -- Mark, go ahead and mention those tarballs if you like! (I'll leave them on /~jm/devel/ ). --j. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:49, Yet Another Ninjasa-l...@alexb.ch wrote: On 7/2/2009 11:40 AM, Justin Mason wrote: BTW, don't forget.  If you make install this, you need to either

[vote] proposed 3.3.0-alpha1 release

2009-07-01 Thread Justin Mason
Hi guys -- I've cut tarballs for the alpha. Here goes! Please give me a few votes for a public release of these (my vote: +1 of course). Here's the proposed announcement... To: users, dev, announce Subject: ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha1 available Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-alpha1

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