RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
Since we have no full rules, and in fact we actively discourage people from writing/using full rules, I'd like to see the functionality get moved into a plugin which is off by default. Thoughts? -- Randomly Generated Tagline: What about WRITING it first and rationalizing it afterwords? :-)

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread John Myers
Theo Van Dinter wrote: Since we have no full rules, and in fact we actively discourage people from writing/using full rules, I'd like to see the functionality get moved into a plugin which is off by default. Moving the functionality into a plugin is part of bug 4778. The status of that is

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:19:07AM -0800, John Myers wrote: I'm not so big on turning off the functionality. We shouldn't erect barriers against our being able to later publish full rules through sa-update. My POV is that we will never publish full rules again (so far, everything we would

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:19:07AM -0800, John Myers wrote: I'm not so big on turning off the functionality. We shouldn't erect barriers against our being able to later publish full rules through sa-update. My POV is that we will never publish full rules again

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Doc Schneider
Justin Mason wrote: Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:19:07AM -0800, John Myers wrote: I'm not so big on turning off the functionality. We shouldn't erect barriers against our being able to later publish full rules through sa-update. My POV is that we will never publish

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Doc Schneider
Doc Schneider wrote: Justin Mason wrote: Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:19:07AM -0800, John Myers wrote: I'm not so big on turning off the functionality. We shouldn't erect barriers against our being able to later publish full rules through sa-update. My POV is that we

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 08:49:56PM +, Justin Mason wrote: *We* may not have full rules in the core ruleset, but I'm pretty sure SARE and other third parties have a few. SpamAssassin isn't just a bundled set of rules -- it's a platform, too ;) Changing the platform -- in a backwards

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread John Myers
Theo Van Dinter wrote: I have no evidence for this, but if full rules are helping cause problems such as high memory use and large scan times (and it's certainly possible because we all know how inefficient full rules are and have been -- that's why we stopped using them in the first place),

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Doc Schneider writes: D'Oh! I meant Justin not Jason. His jmason always throws me. ::thud:: heh, I've given up noticing that long ago ;) --j.