Re: Where might be my rsync credentials be?

2011-01-12 Thread Darxus
On 01/12, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: That address is correct. We will handle your request shortly. Thanks for contributing, and sorry for the lag of a few days. Is there a reason not to automate this? Create a web page to get an rsync account that asks for a username and password, and creates

corpus-nightly script not working

2011-01-18 Thread Darxus
$ ~/nightlymc/trunk/masses/rule-qa/corpus-nightly ... + rsync -Pcvuzb --timeout=120 spam-darxus.log ham-darxus.log dar...@rsync.spamassassin.org::corpus/ ... skipping non-regular file ham-darxus.log skipping non-regular file spam-darxus.log sent 62 bytes received 12 bytes 29.60 bytes/sec

Re: corpus-nightly script not working

2011-01-19 Thread Darxus
On 01/19, Justin Mason wrote: hmm -- works fine for me. what does ls -l spam-darxus.log look like in the masses dir? mine looks like: It was a symbolic link, which is why --copy-links made it work. Warren's script may be worth a try though ;) Yeah, it seems to be working, and I've added

Re: corpus-nightly script not working

2011-01-20 Thread Darxus
-darxus.log spam-darxus.log dar...@rsync.spamassassin.org::corpus/ Run at: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:00:28 -0500 (EST) $ pwd ; wc -l *.log /home/darxus/masscheckwork/nightly_mass_check/masses 1071 ham-darxus.log 6 spam-darxus.log -- Of course there's strength in numbers. But there's strength

Wiki access Re: corpus-nightly script not working

2011-01-20 Thread Darxus
On 01/20, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: I'm not allowed to edit http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/NightlyMassCheck Can somebody else add auto-mass-check to it? Can I have write access to that page? My username is Darxus. -- ...extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice - Barry Morris

Weird ruleqa numbers for dnswl

2011-01-22 Thread Darxus
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?daterev=20110122rule=%2FDNSWL MSECSSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME WHO/AGE 0 0.0111 17.8052 0.0010.880.00 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI 0 0.0294 12.1266 0.0020.810.00 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED 0 0.0235 6.4141

Re: Weird ruleqa numbers for dnswl

2011-01-22 Thread Darxus
On 01/23, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: I believe __RCVD_IN_DNSWL should include the rest of these rules? So assuming HI, MED, LOW, and NONE have the right numbers, __RCVD_IN_DNSWL should be .3936% of spam (not 0.1320%), and 46.6180% of ham (not 20.2586%)? That could be my fault. I'm not

mass-check participant list

2011-02-02 Thread Darxus
Any news on when we will have a mailing list for people submitting mass-check data?

Recommended required_score vs. threshold used in test score generation

2011-02-20 Thread Darxus
Scores for all the tests are based on data from mass checks and a required_score of 5. The default required_score in SA installs is 5. That makes sense. http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.3.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html recommends against using a required_score of 5 for anything but a

RuleQA noise Re: [Bug 6534] Evaluate UCEPROTECT

2011-03-01 Thread Darxus
On 03/01, Jason Bertoch wrote: I haven't spent any time over the years reading ruleqa results, but is it normal for a rule's S/O to bounce all over the place from week to week, or is that an indication of a problem in the testing RuleQA results are incredibly noisy:

Inconsistent mass-check submissions

2011-03-01 Thread Darxus
-trec_enron. Missing spam-net-bb-zmi. Missing spam-net-grenier. 20110129 Missing ham-net-kgolding. Missing spam-net-kgolding. 20110205 Missing ham-net-llanga. Missing ham-net-wt-hamtrap-en. Missing spam-net-llanga. Missing spam-net-wt-hamtrap-en. 20110212 Missing ham-net-darxus. Missing ham-net

Re: Inconsistent mass-check submissions

2011-03-02 Thread Darxus
On 03/02, John Hardin wrote: Is the desire for distributed processing stronger than the desire for consistent results? I'd suggest at least part of the problem could be addressed by uploading the spam corpora and letting the central masscheck chew on it. Automating the collect-expire-upload

mkrules missing from RunningGa?

2011-03-03 Thread Darxus
I noticed 72_active.cf is missing from the rules in trunk. It looks like its creation is missing from http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RunningGa ? Should this be added to that page? trunk$ build/mkrules --src rulesrc --out rules

Re: Inconsistent mass-check submissions

2011-03-06 Thread Darxus
For this week: 20110305 Missing ham-net-danmcdonald. Missing ham-net-nbebout. Missing spam-net-danmcdonald. Missing spam-net-nbebout. The graph of total spam and ham counts in the corpora: http://www.chaosreigns.com/dnswl/tot.svg The data file:

High DNSWL spam hits

2011-03-06 Thread Darxus
% 2.0785 bb-jhardin 0.3802 kgolding 0.1582 bernie-mix 0.1186 grenier 0.0065 - average RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED: SPAM% 20.2532 bernie-mix 2.0408 darxus 1.5012 bb-jhardin 1.0186 jarif 0.4615 wt-en1 0.3802 kgolding 0.3363 bb-guenther_fraud 0.3109 bb-jhardin_fraud

Re: High DNSWL spam hits

2011-03-06 Thread Darxus
On 03/06, John Hardin wrote: My corpora include messages from several different mail paths, and all of my corpora masschecks are done against uploaded corpora on the SA/Apache servers. How are we to provide trusted_networks data in that scenario? (That's something I've been mildly curious

Re: High DNSWL spam hits

2011-03-06 Thread Darxus
On 03/06, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:07 -0500, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED: SPAM% 0.3363 bb-guenther_fraud 0.3109 bb-jhardin_fraud 0.0550 - average I just checked mine -- sure enough, yes, they ARE spam. I'm not

Re: High DNSWL spam hits

2011-03-06 Thread Darxus
On 03/06, John Hardin wrote: If so, that wouldn't apply to just me. The entire upload a corpus for central scanning wouldn't be a valid model at all. That it is being done suggests otherwise and I just don't understand how that part of it works. That is a fascinating and dangerous assumption,

Re: High DNSWL spam hits

2011-03-07 Thread Darxus
On 03/07, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Karsten Bräckelmann, Am 2011-03-07 18:44:07, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: You have a track record of going ballistic on the users list over spam waves every once in a while, which more than once [1] turned out to be a problem with a single,

mass-check has been killing my internet connection - buggy cablemodem

2011-03-12 Thread Darxus
.) This morning it didn't happen. mass-check ran, my logs rsynced up, and I still had a working internet connection. But I noticed a change I made didn't work (adding darxus-trap), so I ran mass-check again. And my internet connection died. Comcast wasn't triggering my internet connection to die. mass

Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-03-12

2011-03-12 Thread Darxus
Date HamSpam Ham change Spam Change 20110226 263567 512001 20110305 203478 354465-28.4% -30.0% 20110312 145085 300673-28.7% -15.2% 45% reduction in ham corpora over two weeks. At this rate, we'll have no ham corpora in 3 weeks :P Everybody who submitted corpora

Re: mass-check + sa-update based reputation system

2011-03-12 Thread Darxus
On 03/13, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: SA does not block mail, and we do not run a blacklist of our own. (Thus, we cannot remove a sender from it, which even is a prominent answer on the wiki.) The fundamental concept of a scoring system, with no rule's score above the threshold, effectively

This list is taking 12 days to send warnings

2011-03-14 Thread Darxus
Error happened on March 12th. Notification sent to me on March 14th. The only reason I noticed this is because I recently stopped blocking the range of messages that trigger this kind of thing. - Forwarded message from dev-h...@spamassassin.apache.org - Date: 14 Mar 2011 06:14:18 -

Re: mass-check participant list

2011-03-19 Thread Darxus
It looks like the list has been created, rul...@spamassassin.apache.org? Do we still need to wait for somebody to subscribe all the participants? -- Whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad. - Euripides (c.480 - 406 BC). http://www.ChaosReigns.com

Re: [Bug 6545] Include DNSWL spam reporting plugin

2011-03-19 Thread Darxus
On 03/19, bugzilla-dae...@issues.apache.org wrote: Thanks, Darxus. However... That was not a request for the ability to report. That was a complaint about DNSWL hits downscoring spam, just below the threshold. He wasn't one of the people I was referring to requesting abuse reporting ability

Re: [Bug 6545] Include DNSWL spam reporting plugin

2011-03-19 Thread Darxus
On 03/20, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: While I really appreciate you trying to keep bugzilla clean (yes, really really :), this probably would have belonged to bugzilla... Okay. Then WHY was that the one and only mentioning and link of requests? In your own words, There were requests for

Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-03-19

2011-03-20 Thread Darxus
Date HamSpam Ham change Spam Change 20110226 263567 512001 20110305 203478 354465-28.4% -30.0% 20110312 159842 297169-21.4% -16.2% 20110319 185312 218995+15.9% -26.3% Woo, positive change in ham. Now its only spam that we won't have any of in three weeks

Re: Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-03-19

2011-03-20 Thread Darxus
On 03/20, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Date HamSpam Ham change Spam Change 20110226 263567 512001 20110305 203478 354465-28.4% -30.0% 20110312 159842 297169-21.4% -16.2% 20110319 185312 218995+15.9% -26.3% Woo, positive change in ham. Now its only

sa-updates not happening (Re: Update Mirror Issues)

2011-03-20 Thread Darxus
--exclude '*~' -vaz dar...@rsync.spamassassin.org::corpus /home/darxus/sa/corp ./log-grep-recent -m 72 `grep -l '^# SVN revision: 1083147$' ~/sa/corp/ham-net-*.log` ~/sa/ham-full.log ./log-grep-recent -m 2 `grep -l '^# SVN revision: 1083147$' ~/sa/corp/spam-net-*.log` ~/sa/spam-full.log wc -l ~/sa

Your SpamAssassin plugin description

2011-03-20 Thread darxus
You are listed as the contact for a SpamAssassin plugin on http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins Please update your description of your SpamAssassin plugin on http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins to change the line Updated: Old to Updated: -MM-DD to represent today's

Re: Your SpamAssassin plugin description

2011-03-20 Thread darxus
On 03/21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 21:06 -0400, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Please update your description of your SpamAssassin plugin on http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins to change the line Updated: Old to Updated: -MM-DD to represent today's

Re: Your SpamAssassin plugin description

2011-03-21 Thread darxus
On 03/21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 22:33 -0400, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Please update your description of your SpamAssassin plugin on http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins to change the line Updated: Old to Updated: -MM-DD to represent

Re: Your SpamAssassin plugin description

2011-03-21 Thread darxus
On 03/21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Now on to the gazillion similar requests and questions stuck in the list's moderation queue. *sigh* Gazillian? I replied to Eric Lubow, Battista Biggio and Cord Beermann, who were the only other people I got similar replies from. -- Whom God wishes to

Re: Your SpamAssassin plugin description

2011-03-21 Thread darxus
On 03/22, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 12:42 -0400, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 03/21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Please update your description of your SpamAssassin plugin on http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins to change the line

ruleqa is broken

2011-03-26 Thread darxus
No updates since 2011-03-21. -- When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries of life disappear and life stands explained. - Mark Twain http://www.ChaosReigns.com

Getting last untrusted relay without scoring

2011-03-28 Thread darxus
What's the best way, taking advantage of existing SA code, to get the last untrusted relay from an email (for use with black lists and white lists), without going through scoring? This is the one option I've gotten to work: http://www.chaosreigns.com/iprep/dl/received.pl It unfolds the Received

Wombat plugin - dumb or intentional?

2011-04-01 Thread darxus
I'm not all that curious about the fact that they put their plugin at the top, out of chronological order, again. What I'm curious about is the change of the Added date, to 8 months earlier. Is it a coincidence that after I put them back in chronological order, if I had used the new date they

Removed remote embedded images from plugins page

2011-04-01 Thread darxus
It just occurred to me that they might have done that to harvest IPs of people looking into spam filtering software. I would have just copied the image up to the wiki and embedded that, but I don't think it's worth asking them for permission. -- Blessed are they who, in the face of death, think

Re: Wombat plugin - dumb or intentional?

2011-04-01 Thread darxus
On 04/01, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: My guess, just as yours, would be the previous date to be correct. But It's not a guess, I added all 49 of those Added: lines based on the wiki edit history. And I checked that one again before changing it. (After all, the date change can be found in the

Re: Wombat plugin - dumb or intentional?

2011-04-02 Thread darxus
On 04/01, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: My only comment on this is rather with the Maintained date. Maintained means little if the plugin hasn't been updated for years but continues to work with modern spamassassin versions. How about Maintained DATE tested with spamassassin-3.3.1? That would, of

Lack of sorting in sought Re: svn commit: r1088313 - /spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jm/20_sought.cf

2011-04-03 Thread darxus
Over half the lines in this are due entirely to a lack of sorting. Number of body rules changes: $ cat sought.txt | grep ^.body __ | wc -l 455 Number of body rules changes that weren't just removing and re-adding the same rule: $ cat sought.txt | grep ^.body __ | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq

Conflict of interest on plugins and rule sets pages

2011-04-03 Thread darxus
Short version, since this got long: Should I clean up the rule sets page ( http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets )? In October, dnswl.org started requiring payment from sites hitting it more than 100,000 times per day. I've been involved in dnswl.org since 2006, I've been an

How do you maintain your mass-check target folders?

2011-04-07 Thread darxus
Do you actually move all your hams from your inbox to a separate confirmed ham folder? Or do you only run mass-check manually, just after verifying everything in your inbox is ham? Or do you just run mass-check from cron with your inbox listed as ham, in hopes that you usually won't get a spam

Re: How do you maintain your mass-check target folders?

2011-04-07 Thread darxus
On 04/07, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: All of my incoming mail is CC'ed to a separate account, and all sorting is done within that account. The masscheck ham folder is entirely separate from my Inbox. So if you get a spam that SA misses, you need to delete it twice, in your inbox and your

Re: ruleqa is broken

2011-04-10 Thread darxus
On 03/31, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: On 03/26/2011 06:09 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: No updates since 2011-03-21. I took a quick look on the spamassassin2 server. /exports/home/ruleqadb/ indeed shows March 21st as the last day logs were copied. freqsd is dead. I am unable to dig

Re: ruleqa is broken

2011-04-10 Thread darxus
On 04/10, John Hardin wrote: I found an old email listing the stuff on spamassassin2, freqsd seems to be restarted. We'll see. Should that go up on the wiki? -- theres a lot more to life than chicks none of it matters but theres a lot of it - LeRoy, #motorcycles, #EFNet, 7/18/06

Re: ruleqa is broken

2011-04-10 Thread darxus
On 04/10, John Hardin wrote: woohoo! It appears to be working! Thank you. -- He who dies with the most toys... still dies. - No Fear http://www.ChaosReigns.com

Why do nightly and weekly masschecks use different tagged builds?

2011-04-11 Thread darxus
Nightly mass-checks use rsync://rsync.spamassassin.org/tagged_builds/nightly_mass_check Weekly mass-checks use rsync://rsync.spamassassin.org/tagged_builds/weekly_mass_check Why are they different? Wouldn't it be better for them to be the same, for consistency? -- Let's just say that if

Re: [SA-dev] Script to collect IP reputation data from SA mass-check targets

2011-04-11 Thread darxus
On 03/30, Adam Katz wrote: Be careful about measuring the usefulness of that data; you'll have to measure samples against each other, and even then you will have imperfect results. If this ever gets added to the mass-check tests, I'll be more than happy to create a separate set of the data

Re: Mailspike Performance

2011-04-12 Thread darxus
On 04/12, Greg Troxel wrote: Do you mean rules like KHOP_DNSBL_BUMP and KHOP_DNSBL_ADJ? I think so. The current score-setting algorithm seems to assume orthogonal rules, or rather a set of rules that test independent properties. DNSBLs (and DNSWLs) are fundamentally different, because they

Applying patches from Debian?

2011-04-13 Thread darxus
The Debian and Ubuntu packages of SpamAssassin apply 7 patches. Should these be applied to upstream? Applied in order: 10_change_config_paths - Changes all instances of /etc/mail/spamassassin to /etc/spamassassin. 20_edit_spamc_pod - Changes the man page for spampd from section 1 of man to

Daily builds of SpamAssassin for Ubuntu

2011-04-14 Thread darxus
I believe I have daily builds properly set up for Ubuntu. To use it: apt-get install python-software-properties # the add-apt-repository command add-apt-repository ppa:darxus/spamassassin-daily apt-get update apt-get install spamassassin spamc It's building for Karmic (9.10), Lucid (10.04),

Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-04-16

2011-04-18 Thread darxus
20110416 Missing ham-net-jm - last seen 20110401. Missing ham-net-wt-hamtrap-en - last seen 20110129. Missing ham-net-llanga - last seen 20110129. Missing ham-net-bb-zmi - last seen 20110115. Missing ham-net-bb-trec_enron - last seen 20110115. Missing ham-net-bb-kmcgrail - last seen 20110115.

Re: Req: Dan, corpus check plz

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
On 04/21, Henrik Krohns wrote: Then again the personal email is easily found in email archives.. Then please find me the personal email for mass-check submitter llanga. This is the person who most recently stopped doing mass-checks, and I'd like to contact them. They haven't posted (with that

Shouldn't ignore_received_spf_header default to 1?

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
By default, it seems SA will honor Received-SPF headers, while I would guess most people aren't inserting it at their MTA, so it's a great opportunity for spammers to forge the header to say their email passed SPF. So, shouldn't it be disabled by default, by setting ignore_received_spf_header to

Re: Shouldn't ignore_received_spf_header default to 1?

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
I meant to link to the relevant docs: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.3.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_SPF On 04/21, Benny Pedersen wrote: this header could be removed in mta, and readded if spf pass in mta, its just not any stable milters that does it so far, but if headers is removed

Re: Shouldn't ignore_received_spf_header default to 1?

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
Yep, I have a bunch of emails where google inserted a Received-SPF: pass header that didn't hit SA's SPF_PASS rule. Then I started inserting that header myself, and it hits SPF_PASS. So it is ignoring Received-SPF headers from non-local relays. Nicely done. (The ignore_received_spf_header

Re: Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-04-16

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
Okay, I've dug up a decent guess for all of these but doc - ham-net-bb-doc. Anybody have an email address for him? On 04/18, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: 20110416 Missing ham-net-jm - last seen 20110401. Missing ham-net-wt-hamtrap-en - last seen 20110129. Missing ham-net-llanga - last seen

Re: Missing mass-check submissions for 2011-04-16

2011-04-21 Thread darxus
On 04/21, Yet Another Ninja wrote: Isn't that MadDoc? from CREDITS: That was my guess, thanks. Missing ham-net-llanga - last seen 20110129. Had forgotten about us. Re-started mass-checking. Missing ham-net-bb-zmi - last seen 20110115. Thought he was still mass-checking. Re-enabled,

New release Re: [Bug 6577] IPv6 encapsulated IPv4 sender not detected correctly

2011-04-28 Thread darxus
to anybody who does. It's open source. You could do an unofficial release. The daily builds have been working fine for me: https://launchpad.net/~darxus/+archive/spamassassin-daily What needs to happen for a release? Tarring up trunk, and testing it? What would the version be? -- You only truly own

Re: New release Re: [Bug 6577] IPv6 encapsulated IPv4 sender not detected correctly

2011-04-28 Thread darxus
On 04/28, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: What needs to happen for a release? Tarring up trunk, and testing it? What would the version be? There is excellent documentation of the SA release process here: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ReleasePolicy Command lines involved, including building

Re: Proposed: 3.3.2-beta1 on May 4th Re: New release Re: [Bug 6577] IPv6 encapsulated IPv4 sender not detected correctly

2011-04-29 Thread darxus
On 04/28, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I therefore propose that folks should get in whatever they can to the 3.3.x svn branch, and whatever is there on May 4th I will cut On 04/29, Justin Mason wrote: +1 (from the sidelines ;) On 04/29, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: +1. Hope you did well on your

Bugs needing voting or closing (2011-05-05)

2011-05-05 Thread darxus
Need voting to commit: [review] Report for IPv6 IP hitting DNS BL/WL is broken https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6573 needs 1 vote for 3.4 [review] Use same age limits in ruleqa as in sa-updates https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6557 needs 2 votes 3.3.2

More bugs needing voting or closing (2011-05-05 B)

2011-05-05 Thread darxus
Need voting: [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!! https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6552 Needs 1 vote for *3.2*. Come on. This patch was created and has been waiting for votes since March. Disable rfc-ignorant.org

Re: More bugs needing voting or closing (2011-05-05 B)

2011-05-05 Thread darxus
On 05/05, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Disable rfc-ignorant.org https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6526 Needs 3 votes. (Summary needs [review] added.) Needs 3 votes for what? Looks like it is already committed and the ticket is resolved because the rules were set to a score

Re: Jenkins build is still unstable: SpamAssassin-trunk #6970

2011-05-05 Thread darxus
3.3 is at least failing on the same test. To run just the failing test: make TEST_FILES=t/originating_ip_hdr.t disttest Looks like this test was just added for this bug: clear_originating_ip_headers seems to be broken https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6500 Somebody want

Re: Jenkins build is still unstable: SpamAssassin-trunk #6970

2011-05-05 Thread darxus
On 05/06, Mark Martinec wrote: Thanks, helpful! Worked around it now in Bug 6500 / t/originating_ip_hdr.t Cool. make test and make disttest are both passing here now. Jenkins is quite a lot less self explanatory than it could be. -- A ship in a port is safe, but that's not what ships are

How were monthly releases done? Re: Proposed: 3.3.2-beta1 on May 4th

2011-05-06 Thread darxus
On 04/30, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Back when Theo and I were hammering out a release a month for about a year, we were giving one week notice that we were going to cut a tarball to vote on. How was that done? No branching, just do a release a month, call it a beta, and if no problems were

Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-08 Thread darxus
On 05/07, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: While we wait, how do people feel about calling this tarball 3.3.2-rc1? Calling it rc1 may have people actually test it who On April 30th, Daryl said There's no need to call it beta if you don't want to. By which I believe he meant that it would be fine to

Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-09 Thread darxus
On 05/09, Henrik K wrote: IMO if there are lots of bugs waiting on few votes or commits, I'm sure it would be much more beneficial to check them in first. Yes, there are a number of bugs just waiting on votes or commits, but that was true four days ago, including a weekend, and I am very

No rule updates since Friday or Saturday due to mass-check corpora starvation

2011-05-09 Thread darxus
No new rule updates are happening for trunk (in addition to Bug 6574 affecting 3.3.2). According to my backups, the last time trunk rules got updated was 2011-05-07 or 2011-05-08 (uncertainty due to a missing backup). Counts of sufficiently recent emails from weekly/net masscheck 1100481 from

Two bugs left just needing 1 vote for 3.3.2 Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-10 Thread darxus
Both of these need 1 vote from somebody other than Mark Martinec and Kevin A. McGrail, for 3.3.2: [review] Cannot Log to stderr without timestamps https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6418 [review] wrong status test on $sth-rows in BayesStore::PgSQL

Thanks for the votes

2011-05-10 Thread darxus
Votes to commit since Warren proposed his 3.3.2 release, 10 days ago: Henrik Krohns 15 Kevin A. McGrail 13 Mark Martinec 7 AXB (Alex Broens?) 1 While things like finding problems, creating the fixes and committing them are in some ways more important, this project seems to be

Re: Thanks for the votes

2011-05-10 Thread darxus
On 05/10, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: That leaves 15 people I didn't find votes from in that period who are Committers: John Hardin I don't yet have sufficient familiarity with the code itself to feel comfortable voting on most bugs. Right now I'm

Re: No rule updates since Friday or Saturday due to mass-check corpora starvation

2011-05-10 Thread darxus
Looks like the mass-check starvation problem went away: spam ham 0 221801 2011460.524 0.000.00 (all messages) Don't know why those numbers on ruleqa are only visible in the source. Ah, there it is, the (source details) link. On 05/09, John Hardin wrote: On

Re: No rule updates since Friday or Saturday due to mass-check corpora starvation

2011-05-10 Thread darxus
On 05/11, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Looks like the mass-check starvation problem went away: Sorry, forgot to mention a trunk rule update also happened: # diff -r panic-2011-05-09/var/lib/spamassassin/3.004000/ panic-2011-05-10/var/lib/spamassassin/3.004000/ | wc -l 210 As far as I know,

Re: Two bugs left just needing 1 vote for 3.3.2 Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-12 Thread darxus
On 05/12, Michael Parker wrote: # Used during the prerelease/release-candidate part of the official release # process. If you hacked up your SA, you should add a version_tag to your .cf # files; this variable should not be modified. @EXTRA_VERSION = qw(); I'm supposed to put

Re: Two bugs left just needing 1 vote for 3.3.2 Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-13 Thread darxus
On 05/13, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: Although I'm not sure what it should say. What was the intent of what is currently written there? I'd change it to: # Used during the prerelease/release-candidate part of the official release # process. If you hacked up your SA, you should add a version_tag

Re: Two bugs left just needing 1 vote for 3.3.2 Re: Proposal: 3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-13 Thread darxus
On 05/13, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: # Used during the prerelease/release-candidate part of the official release # process. If you hacked up your SA, you should add a version_tag to your .cf # files; this variable should not be modified. # Unless you're actually making an official

Re: Votes: spamassassin-3.3.2-rc1

2011-05-15 Thread darxus
On 05/15, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I think this rules tarball is utterly useless. You should use sa-update to grab the 3.3.2 rules, generated from trunk. DOS said something about this a few weeks ago but I can't remember where. Why are rules tarballs still built? -- There never has been an

Updating debian build directory?

2011-05-16 Thread darxus
is currently used by Debian and Ubuntu, to set up daily Ubuntu builds from trunk: https://launchpad.net/~darxus/+archive/spamassassin-daily I'd like to wipe the existing directory in trunk, and copy the current version over from the Debian / Ubuntu package (which is a newer version than the one I used

Re: Updating debian build directory?

2011-05-16 Thread darxus
On 05/16, Mark Martinec wrote: IMO the distribution-specific packaging stuff has no right to be kept in a generic Unix/Linux/Windows package like SpamAssassin and should be wiped out entirely. The package maintainers know their job and their distribution most intimately and should have a full

Re: Updating debian build directory?

2011-05-16 Thread darxus
On 05/16, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Do we want to remove all the files and leave a README instead? In short, should we be trying to maintain these files at all? More immediately relevant, this is how I was going to test 3.3.2 on my server. Installing from tarballs or cpan is too messy. The

Ubuntu daily builds failed today Re: Updating debian build directory?

2011-05-17 Thread darxus
One hunk of a patch failed because it is now already in trunk. Easy to fix. But I'm really not feeling like fixing it if my work isn't going to get into trunk. I think having somebody (me) running daily builds of trunk on a small production server is useful. As well as the increased ease of

28 open bugs just needing votes / commits, 2011-05-23

2011-05-23 Thread darxus
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/buglist.cgi?short_desc=%5Breview;bug_status=NEW;bug_status=ASSIGNED;bug_status=REOPENED;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr 28 bugs just waiting for votes and commits. I've you have commit access, please vote. Thorough understanding of the changes is not

Re: How to interpret the commit-then-review (CTR) mode for trunk?

2011-05-23 Thread darxus
So, taking [Bug 6426] and [Bug 6544] as examples, what is a sentiment about such? Just close after the change has been commited to trunk for some time, or should we follow a voting procedure for each open problem report? Documentation is here:

No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

2011-05-24 Thread darxus
Area we really not even going to do another rule release to provide an already created fix? On 05/24, bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6552 Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com changed: What|Removed

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

2011-05-24 Thread darxus
On 05/24, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I consider 3.2 unmaintained and people should be running 3.3.X. I consider a valid cross-over period to maintain both releases but 3.2.x has long since dropped off my radar. 3.3.x has only been available since 2010-01-27. Dropping support for mission

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

2011-05-24 Thread darxus
On 05/24, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: --On May 24, 2011 5:47:55 PM -0400 dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Dropping support for mission critical software after only providing 4 months to do a major upgrade is bullshit. I'm not sure where you get 4 months from. I see over a year of time myself,

SpamAssassin team on launchpad.net for daily Ubuntu builds

2011-05-25 Thread darxus
https://launchpad.net/~spamassassin This is just so I can grant access to the Ubuntu daily build process to other people. If you're a SpamAssassin committer, please tell me your username on launchpad so I can grant you access (on this list so others have an opportunity to dispute your

Bugs just needing votes / commits (2011-05-26)

2011-05-26 Thread darxus
Ready to commit to 3.3.2 and trunk: [review] 3.3.2rc1 fails t/trusted_path.t tests 69, 72, 75, 78 https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6591 [review] 3.3.2rc1 fails t/spamd_sql_prefs.t tests 14 https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6592 Needs 1 vote for 3.3.2,

What's holding up 3.3.2?

2011-05-27 Thread darxus
I think there are two 3.3.2 blocker bugs with sufficient votes that just need to be committed, and then a 3.3.2 rc2 tarball created with the rules tarball Daryl created? https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6592 https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6591

Re: SpamAssassin team on launchpad.net for daily Ubuntu builds

2011-05-27 Thread darxus
On 05/27, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: The rules as distributed by sa-update, with generated scores, are not available in svn anywhere, right? Right now I have a copy of Theoretically, you could run an SVN repository just for this, Yes, but I don't think it's worth it. correct? Can launchpad

Re: 3.3.2-rc2 Call for Testing

2011-05-30 Thread darxus
Installed on my server (Ubuntu Lucid 10.04), no problems found so far. Installed via: wget http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/3.3.2-rc2/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.2-rc2.tar.bz2 http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/3.3.2-rc2/Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.2-rc2.r1104058.tar.gz

5 bugs only needing votes and commits (2011-06-03)

2011-06-03 Thread darxus
[review] Make sa-learn handle an empty folder list correctly - Debian patch https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6603 Ready to commit for 3.3.2. Or close as already committed to (3.4) target. Really minor. [review] Add DBL spammed redirector to weekly masschecks

Re: 3.3.2 Call for Votes

2011-06-06 Thread darxus
Still no problems on my Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) server in the 7 days I've been running it. On 06/06, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: We need +3 votes from PMC (or the release manager) to declare 3.3.2 an official ASF release. This 3.3.2 release has no changes since 3.3.2-rc2. Please do some testing

Do you care? bugzilla feature?

2011-06-08 Thread darxus
The 691 open SpamAssassin bugs are kind of overwhelming to tackle. I'd like a way to tell bugzilla I've looked at this bug and decided I'm not going to do anything with it until further notice, please never show it to me again. And then have all searches default to not listing anything with that

Re: Sought rules

2011-06-11 Thread darxus
On 06/10, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: The Sought rule-set is re-generated multiple times a day, which is what you get from the dedicated sa-update channel. With 3.3.x the plan is, to frequently perform mass-checks and re-scoring, distributed via the regular channel. This includes a recent

Re: 3.3.2 Call for Votes

2011-06-14 Thread darxus
You should document this somewhere other than this list. Maybe build/README ? On 06/14, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I just asked someone and the easiest, currently proposed method is: - do *nothing* special - just “make dist” etc. to create the spamassassin-3.3.2.tar.gz file - then

Wiki hates me Re: [Bug 6526] Disable rfc-ignorant.org

2011-06-25 Thread darxus
On 06/23, bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote: --- Comment #58 from Darxus dar...@chaosreigns.com 2011-06-23 17:34:56 UTC --- ... The wiki asking me questions I need to google every time I edit it is pissing me off: Who is the current President of the ASF (full name)? ApacheCon

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