As I see it, these 2/3 people were added before I was assigned
as chair. I also don't see that, at least according to ldap,
that they have commit privs. Nor, as stated, were they
added to committee-info.txt. And in March 2012's report
On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:48 AM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
I'm sincerely sorry to ask this and I have my own answers, but why continue
STDCXX when such negativity from Apache is apparent..
What negativity are you seeing? I'm not seeing any, certainly
nothing that is
On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Martin Sebor mse...@gmail.com wrote:
There's always good traffic when this topic comes up. Thanks
to Jim who's made it his mission to pull the plug on STDCXX.
I think this must be his third or fourth proposal to vote the
project into the attic.
No, it's not
On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:45 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
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The facts as I know it
1) Our fork is maintained (continuous bug fixes - which we won't submit to
Apache now)
Why?
2) Stefan is putting in some work (one man army)
Hardly a healthy community if just 1
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
While STDCXX is at Apache it will never be BSD licensed. Solution - move it
away from Apache foundation and have them transfer some of the additional
rights they received to allow recipient foundation to relicense. I
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have seen two forks on github, one belonging to C. Bergstrom/Pathscale and
the other to Stefan Teleman.
The first one contains a number of genuine code changes outside the Apache
repository, but without canonical and meaningful commit comments, and without
On 08/31/12 07:20 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, C. Bergströmcbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
While STDCXX is at Apache it will never be BSD licensed. Solution - move it
away from Apache foundation and have them transfer some of the additional
rights they received to
On 08/31/12 08:18, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:45 PM, C. Bergströmcbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
[...]
STDCXX isn't some stupid ass java framework or widget - It's a *critical* part
of a C++ stack and the cost of leaving it out of the attic is negligible -
What's the benefit
On 08/31/12 07:40 PM, Liviu Nicoara wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have seen two forks on github, one belonging to C.
Bergstrom/Pathscale and the other to Stefan Teleman.
The first one contains a number of genuine code changes outside the
Apache repository, but without canonical
On 08/31/12 08:58, C. Bergström wrote:
On 08/31/12 07:40 PM, Liviu Nicoara wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have seen two forks on github, one belonging to C. Bergstrom/Pathscale and
the other to Stefan Teleman.
The first one contains a number of genuine code changes outside the
On 08/31/12 08:10 PM, Liviu Nicoara wrote:
NetBSD also has a fork I believe, but not sure if it's public/status
Do you know where that is?
He just posted his bulk patch
http://www.netbsd.org/~joerg/stdcxx.diff
There's a small amount of CVS noise and we already have one part on our
Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com writes:
So how are/were they committers??
Hi!
Chime in - I think we need to clarify what kind of problems we have with
stdcxx being hosted as an Apache project.
The two significant ones (as far as I can understand):
- as I heard from Christopher Bergström that
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
Stefan's seem like a complete git-ification of the whole Apache repository
but with no changes I could detect.
Not quite. :-)
You are - most likely referring to the svn repo at CVSDude here:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM, C. Bergström
cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 08/31/12 07:20 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, C. Bergströmcbergst...@pathscale.com
wrote:
While STDCXX is at Apache it will never be BSD licensed. Solution - move
it away from Apache
2012/8/31 Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Pavel Heimlich, a.k.a. hajma
tropikha...@gmail.com wrote:
well, it's half year since revival of the project was announced and has
there been any progress/improvements? The state of this is a koma at best.
On 08/31/12 13:14, Stefan Teleman wrote:
In June this year I committed r1353821 to trunk which fixes stdcxx-1058.
I have the patches for 1058 ready to commit to branches (4.2.x and 4.3.x).
OK to go?
The patch looks ok to me. What seems to be the problem? +1
L
The branching policy [1] in effect looks very much like the Rogue Wave release
process: branch at the beginning of each release cycle, work on the release
branch, merge changes back into the trunk at release time (and in between as
needed). Did I get that right?
From what I gather 4.2.x has
On Aug 31, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
Stefan's seem like a complete git-ification of the whole Apache repository
but with no changes I could detect.
FWIW, The ASF supports git so if people think it would help,
all we'd need to do is ask #infra to move stdcxx
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
The branching policy [1] in effect looks very much like the Rogue Wave
release process: branch at the beginning of each release cycle, work on the
release branch, merge changes back into the trunk at release time (and in
The idea that ALv2 projects can't be added to FreeBSD ports is complete and
total hogwash. Pure FUD.
On Aug 31, 2012, at 8:43 AM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 08/31/12 07:20 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, C. Bergströmcbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 09/ 1/12 01:13 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 31, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Wojciech Meyerwojciech.me...@arm.com wrote:
Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com writes:
So how are/were they committers??
Hi!
Chime in - I think we need to clarify what kind of problems we have with
stdcxx being hosted as
On 09/ 1/12 01:17 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
The idea that ALv2 projects can't be added to FreeBSD ports is complete and
total hogwash. Pure FUD.
Thanks for the top post and your view... Can you actually address the
issue and question?
On Aug 31, 2012, at 8:43 AM, C.
Are you suggesting that FreeBSD does not allow the inclusion of ANY
ALv2 library under its ports directory?
On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:19 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
Do they come bundled with the compiler and link against every c++ application
by default? I suspect that their
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
On 08/31/12 13:14, Stefan Teleman wrote:
In June this year I committed r1353821 to trunk which fixes stdcxx-1058.
I have the patches for 1058 ready to commit to branches (4.2.x and 4.3.x).
OK to go?
The patch looks
On 09/ 1/12 01:35 AM, Stefan Teleman wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:27 PM, C. Bergström
cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
stdcxx ends up linking against *EVERY* C++ application if it's used in the
default compiler setup. (Which is what I was trying to achieve) That
includes
On 09/ 1/12 01:28 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Your suggestion is that, somehow, one cannot push stdcxx as part
of the FreeBSD ports collection. And that is because it is licensed
under ALv2.
My response is that that suggestion is total hogwash.
That's not an authoritative response - To help
On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:38 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 09/ 1/12 01:35 AM, Stefan Teleman wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:27 PM, C. Bergström
cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
stdcxx ends up linking against *EVERY* C++ application if it's used in the
default compiler
On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:41 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 09/ 1/12 01:28 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Your suggestion is that, somehow, one cannot push stdcxx as part
of the FreeBSD ports collection. And that is because it is licensed
under ALv2.
My response is that that
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, C. Bergström
cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
He has quite a number of patches and forget where those are kept. I'm
guessing a lot of his fixes target KDE/Qt apps and the Perennial C++VS
testsuite.
http://www.peren.com/pages/cppvs_set.htm
Correction: my
On 09/ 1/12 02:01 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:41 PM, C. Bergströmcbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
On 09/ 1/12 01:28 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Your suggestion is that, somehow, one cannot push stdcxx as part
of the FreeBSD ports collection. And that is because it is licensed
My input below.
On 08/31/12 09:42, Wojciech Meyer wrote:
The two significant ones (as far as I can understand):
- as I heard from Christopher Bergström that it's hard to push the
stdcxx to FreeBSD ports repository (I can understand it and that
sounds pretty bad, if that's the case then
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