The ASF was asked to comment on the move of the project to the Attic. The below is what was sent.
Begin forwarded message: > From: Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > Subject: Re: [Contact] Media question > To: Serdar Yegulalp <ser...@genjipress.com> > > No worries. Here it is again. > > One of the core goals of Apache projects is to create a healthy and > viable community around a project; This implies a community dedicated > to the continued growth of the code and a project which values and > abides by the tenets of "the Apache Way." When a project's activity > level decrease so much that commits to the project become almost > non-existant, or it is hard to muster the required 3 +1 votes for > patch acceptance and releases, it becomes obvious that the project > had reached its end-of-life. > > The Apache C++ Standard Library was given numerous opportunities > to "reboot" itself and re-energize the community, but the sad fact > is that it was never able to accomplish it. We understand the ire > of Christian Bergström, but it indicates his unfamiliarity with > Apache and Apache projects and how they are run and managed, as > well as his confusion over what the Chair of an Apache project > actually does. If there was still potential in the project, > then that would have been clearly seen over the last several > months, but as the mailing list and code repo logs show, there > was no activity of merit at all for a long, long time, and > Mr Bergström certainly had plenty of opportunity to provide > some evidence of that potential; even some code commits from > him and others would have been a factor. > > And so, after some discussion at the Apache board level, the following > was sent to the project: > > At this month's board meeting, a resolution was passed to move Apache C++ > Standard Library to the Attic, due to inactivity. > > The Attic home page [1] contains some details about its purpose - it is > the destination for Apache projects that can no longer provide oversight or > muster votes for a release. It isn't a reflection on the contributors or the > codebase, and is intended to be non-impacting to users. > > Please let us know if you have any questions or comments, or if you are > available to work with the Attic to help with the transition of resources. > > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Serdar Yegulalp <ser...@genjipress.com> wrote: > >> I don't believe I did, my apologies if it got lost in the shuffle. >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@apache.org] >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:03 AM >>> To: Serdar Yegulalp >>> Subject: Re: [Contact] Media question >>> >>> Ddi you get my response? >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Serdar Yegulalp <ser...@genjipress.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there - I just wanted to check back in and see if there was any >> progress >>>> on this. I'll need to have an answer by sometime tomorrow. (I can also >> have >>>> an answer in the coming week, but I'd prefer to have it sooner rather >> than >>>> later.) >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Serdar Yegulalp [mailto:ser...@genjipress.com] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:11 AM >>>>> To: 'Jim Jagielski' >>>>> Subject: RE: [Contact] Media question >>>>> >>>>> Sure thing. >>>>> >>>>> Earlier in July, a resolution was passed to move the Apache C++ >> Standard >>>>> Library project to the Attic, as per discussion on the official mailing >>>> list >>>>> >>>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/stdcxx- >>> dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F1B5FEB >>>> - >>>>> 9312-44CA-96CF-B586B8CE6BA4%40apache.org%3E). This raised some ire on >> the >>>>> part of Christian Bergström, who had offered to take over as chair of >> the >>>>> project and claimed he still saw potential in it. I was interested in >>>> getting >>>>> some official word from the Apache side as to the reasons behind these >>>>> decisions. >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@apache.org] >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:55 AM >>>>>> To: Serdar Yegulalp >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Contact] Media question >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Serdar, >>>>>> >>>>>> How would you like to proceed? An Email exchange is likely the easiest >>>>>> way... >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Sally Khudairi <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, Serdar --following up on your request, it's my pleasure to >>>>>>> introduce >>>>>> you to Jim Jagielski, Vice President of the Apache C++ Standard >>>>>> Library Project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm copying Jim here so you can connect directly regarding next >> steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, Jim, for helping Serdar! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> Sally >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct >>>>>>> anomalies] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Reply message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Serdar Yegulalp" <ser...@genjipress.com> >>>>>>> To: "'Sally Khudairi'" <s...@apache.org>, <pr...@apache.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [Contact] Media question >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 12:50 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to secure a comment by the end of this week, or the >>>>>>> beginning of next week. I may also have some follow-up questions, so >>>>>>> by the end of this week would be ideal to give me time to respond. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:s...@apache.org] >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:47 PM >>>>>>>> To: Serdar Yegulalp; pr...@apache.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Contact] Media question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, Serdar --thank you for your message. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will be happy to secure an Apache spokesperson for you. What is >>>>>>>> your deadline? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>> Sally Khudairi >>>>>>>> VP Marketing & Publicity >>>>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> = = = = = >>>>>>>> vox +1 617 921 8656 >>>>>>>> aux +1 917 725 2133 >>>>>>>> skype sallykhudairi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: Serdar Yegulalp <ser...@genjipress.com> >>>>>>>> To: pr...@apache.org >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2013, 9:56 >>>>>>>> Subject: [Contact] Media question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My name is Serdar Yegulalp and I'm interested in seeking comment >>>>>>>> from spokespeople at the Apache Software Foundation about their >>>>>>>> recent >>>>>> decision >>>>>>>> to end the development of the Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx) >>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>> There was apparently some discussion of having the project >>>>>>>> stewarded by a new chair, but the decision was made instead to end >>>>>>>> the project. I'd be interested in speaking with folks at the ASF >>>>>>>> who are qualified to comment >>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * * * * * >>>>>>>> Serdar Yegulalp >>>>>>>> www.genjipress.com >>>>>>>> ser...@genjipress.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My problems have become social rather than musical. >>>>>>>> -- John Cage, composer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >
