[OT] HaD -- solution hot deploy framework for classes

2004-12-03 Thread Dakota Jack
I figured out how to efficiently do the HaD for classes. Not too hard actually. This will allow key framework classes to be hot deployed and will act as a simpler, though how effective remains to be seen, way to solve the problem IoC is presently used to solve through dependency injection. The

Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Vic
Yes Vic, good idea ;-). Resin also has a quick JMX tutorial: http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/jmx/tutorial/basic/index.xtp It look like IoC to me. .V Vic wrote: We have talked CoR, IoC... but not yet JMX/Modeler. Tomcat 5.5 has JMX. If any singleton types are in the registry, and we get them from

Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Germuska
At 5:45 AM -0600 12/3/04, Vic wrote: Yes Vic, good idea ;-). Resin also has a quick JMX tutorial: To save you from talking to yourself ;-), I think JMX instrumentation for Struts is a very cool idea. Then again, I can't describe any specific use cases for it myself at the moment. I'm sure I

Re: [OT] Re: keeping Eclipse files in our repo [was Re: Package removal with new Digester]

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
--- Matt Bathje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Graham wrote: Eclipse classpath variables don't solve the issue because each developer may be using different variable names. Further, the name of the jar file may be different (ie. have version number in it). In my experience, forcing

Re: Struts API Bean (was Spring dreaming)

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that one developer's litter is another developer's treasure :) Right now, a lot of components are already pointing to the components we've scattered about the contexts. If we just move them into our own context, then those references

Re: [OT] Re: keeping Eclipse files in our repo [was Re: Package removal with new Digester]

2004-12-03 Thread Matt Bathje
David Graham wrote: --- Matt Bathje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would a developer use different variable names? If .classpath/.project for eclipse were included, there must be documentation saying you must setup VARIABLEX to point to RESOURCEX and so forth. IMO, dictating the one true way to

Re: Struts API Bean (was Spring dreaming)

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Germuska
At 7:18 AM -0800 12/3/04, David Graham wrote: I like the one api bean approach because then you don't have to remember the names of the objects to lookup in the context. You just remember one name and get the rest from that bean. We don't need a migration path if we do this for 2.0, only for the

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.6 Quality

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:51 PM -0800 12/2/04, Martin Cooper wrote: My own vote... Beta. While a number of issues have been reported, my opinion is that #32490 is enough to preclude GA, since I believe we need to have the tag libraries in sync for a GA release. I agree: Beta. Joe -- Joe Germuska [EMAIL

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32515] New: - missing dependency in maven.xml for struts-el

2004-12-03 Thread bugzilla
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32515] - missing dependency in maven.xml for struts-el

2004-12-03 Thread bugzilla
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ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Germuska
In order to push forward on full deprecation of ActionErrors, I propose adding the following method to ActionForm: public ActionMessages validateForm(ActionMapping mapping, HttpServletRequest request) { return validate(mapping, request);

Fw: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread James Mitchell
Joe, fyi.this was in moderation. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 AM Subject:

[Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsBuildingFromSourceUsingEclipse

2004-12-03 Thread dev
Date: 2004-12-03T09:12:51 Editor: HalDeadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsBuildingFromSourceUsingEclipse URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsBuildingFromSourceUsingEclipse no comment Change Log:

[Apache Struts Wiki] New: StrutsBuildingFromSourceWithEclipseMavenSubversion

2004-12-03 Thread dev
Date: 2004-12-03T09:59:16 Editor: HalDeadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsBuildingFromSourceWithEclipseMavenSubversion URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsBuildingFromSourceWithEclipseMavenSubversion no comment New Page: ##language:en ===

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
We didn't do it earlier because we wanted to use commons-resources for message passing. That hasn't happened so we may as well add the validateForm() method and deprecate validate(). David --- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to push forward on full deprecation of ActionErrors,

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread Martin Cooper
We did just get Commons Resources promoted out of the sandbox, and I'm hopeful that we'll get that puppy released soon. Finally! -- Martin Cooper On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:37:38 -0800 (PST), David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We didn't do it earlier because we wanted to use commons-resources

Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
Vic, Are you thinking this would this be a good idea to manage the Struts API Bean thats being talked about? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.struts.devel/23601 ... or did you have other ideas where it could be put to work? Niall - Original Message - From: Joe Germuska

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
Wouldn't it be better to get rid of this in 1.3 with the move to Chain? Doesn't everything get thrown up in the air and re-defined at that point including Action's being deprecated in favour of objects that just implement the Command interface? Niall - Original Message - From: Martin

Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Vic
Niall Pemberton wrote: Vic, Are you thinking this would this be a good idea to manage the Struts API Bean thats being talked about? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.struts.devel/23601 Exactly! Not sure what version. Just expose it for now. ... or did you have other ideas where it

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Germuska
At 8:41 PM + 12/3/04, Niall Pemberton wrote: Wouldn't it be better to get rid of this in 1.3 with the move to Chain? Doesn't everything get thrown up in the air and re-defined at that point including Action's being deprecated in favour of objects that just implement the Command interface? I

[Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsShale

2004-12-03 Thread dev
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Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
Sounds like a great idea and something that would be fun to do, but for me I don't deploy/change my *live* webapp that often and so theres no real selling point to my users to develop a feature like this - similar to the Hot Deployment stuff Jack/Michaels been talking about. I guess for people in

[Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsShale

2004-12-03 Thread dev
Date: 2004-12-03T13:20:04 Editor: CraigMcClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsShale URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsShale no comment Change Log: -- @@ -3,7 +3,6 @@

Re: Object configuration and ... JMX dreaming

2004-12-03 Thread Vic
Being able to monitor is a big deal! As soon as we know what this RequestProcessBeanThingObject is, anyone can make an mBean. Then it be obvois that you do want to look at it. My use case is that I want to look at DAO cache and Lucene cache for hits/misses and size of SoftHashMap % relative to

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
I wasn't proposing changing the validation model at all - but with the advent of Chain we could deprecate the validate(mapping, request) method in favour of a validate(Context) method in ActionForm. This would provide more flexibility and cause less confusion because the method name has stayed the

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.6 Quality

2004-12-03 Thread Eddie Bush
I was of the impression that committers and up judged quality and PMC members were in charge of deciding whether distribution would happen or not. quot After a new release is built, it must be tested before being released to the public. Majority approval is required before the release can be

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.6 Quality

2004-12-03 Thread Eddie Bush
I don't see a difference, Martin. It's moot to me. I haven't had time to test it, so I hadn't intended to voice any input. I don't see what you're quoting to say that only PMC members have voting rights on the quality of a release though. In fact, I still feel my original view is valid: PMC

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.6 Quality

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
The page Martin pointed out says it needs a vote. The ByeLaws page says this about voting... * Decision Making All Volunteers are encouraged to participate in decisions, but the decision itself is made by the Project Management Committee. The Project is a Minimum Threshod Meritocracy. * Voting

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.6 Quality

2004-12-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 beta For me, I would also like to see Bug #18169 Bug #21760 fixed - resource/bundle attributes for Commons Validator are broken - requires moving Struts to depend on Validator 1.1.4 Niall - Original Message - From: Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL