Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Ted Husted
After six years of maintaining the Struts 1 User Guide, for what its worth, here's some personal feedback. * Separating the content into model, view, and controller sections is often problematic since most workflows cross that boundary. It's hard to discuss a routine task beginning to end. *

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Musachy Barroso
It's also not clear whether the intention is to create new content or link to the old. I think the idea is just to organize the info in a way that a user new to struts 2 can understand. From my personal experience, when I started with S2, I couldn't make sense out of the wiki, I had to read

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/12/07, Musachy Barroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea is just to organize the info in a way that a user new to struts 2 can understand. From my personal experience, when I started with S2, I couldn't make sense out of the wiki, I had to read WW in Action, and after that, the wiki

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Philip Luppens
On 2/12/07, Musachy Barroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also not clear whether the intention is to create new content or link to the old. I think the idea is just to organize the info in a way that a user new to struts 2 can understand. From my personal experience, when I started with S2, I

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Tom Schneider
Just to add my 2 cents... I agree with Ted that the wiki is a bad place to do long cohesive documents. Would a PDF format be a better choice? With webwork, what most users had was Jason's/Pat's 'Webwork in Action' in combination with the online documentation. This was a really good

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Musachy Barroso
Could we merge the users guide with the bootstrap tutorial? Adding an introduction/overview and explaining the concepts along the tutorials? musachy Philip Luppens wrote: On 2/12/07, Tom Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to add my 2 cents... I agree with Ted that the wiki is a bad

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Benedict
Copy what is successful: The Spring Framework Reference Guide. That kind of thing is awesome and is basically a book in itself: http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/reference/index.html I don't know what format they write it in, but they export identical texts to both HTML and

Problems with apache website?

2007-02-12 Thread Michael Jouravlev
About an hour ago I could not access http://struts.apache.org/1.3.5, now I cannot access http://wiki.apache.org/struts/, returns 500 Internal Server Error. Is this a know issue, someone is working on this? Michael. - To

Re: Users guide

2007-02-12 Thread Ted Husted
Based on this thread, and some others, I've rearranged the pages in the Core Developers Guide to follow the natural flow of the framework. * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/guides.html For now, I've also added markers for some missing pages that would help fill in the gaps. For example, we

Re: Problems with apache website?

2007-02-12 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 2/12/07, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About an hour ago I could not access http://struts.apache.org/1.3.5, now I cannot access http://wiki.apache.org/struts/, returns 500 Internal Server Error. Is this a know issue, someone is working on this? It seems to be okay now. If