Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Don Brown
Has any work been done to support existing zero config applications with this new plugin? If not, I'd kinda consider that a blocker (-1) because a sufficiently flexible configuration system should be able to support multiple conventions. Also, someone will have to sign up to convert the REST

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Ian Roughley
I've spoken to quiet a few people that are already using zero-config in production. I understand that it was always experimental, but it was also solid and now used. I'd have to agree with Don (even though my vote is now non-binding) and vote +0 if the existing zero-config features are

How to get elements from a list without using logic:iterate

2008-05-14 Thread whitesox12
Hi, I have a List that holds only 5 JavaBean Objects. Now I need to show the data on the JSP but don't want to use the logic:iterate Is there a way to manually get the List element by index and show data on the page in specific area and then get the next element i.e. List.get(0) then show

Re: How to get elements from a list without using logic:iterate

2008-05-14 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/5/14 whitesox12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have a List that holds only 5 JavaBean Objects. Now I need to show the data on the JSP but don't want to use the logic:iterate Is there a way to manually get the List element by index and show data on the page in specific area and then

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread James Holmes
+0 Personally, I'd like to see the the CodeBehind, Zero-Config, Convention and Rest plugins better integrated and the overlap reduced. Right now there are multiple ways to skin the same cat and that can be confusing to new and experienced users alike. The question they will likely have is: Which

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Jeromy Evans
I haven't tested the latest Convention plugin yet so I can't vote yet, but I'd probably give a [-1] because I don't like the options provided. I support moving Convention plugin from the sandbox to become the recommended convention for new users, replacing ZeroConfig and CodeBehind. However, I

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Benedict
I reaffirm my -1. Since there is overlap between the three plugins, I suggest either a new plugin is created that merges all their respective features, or one of the existing plugins should absorb the others. Paul On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Jeromy Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Musachy Barroso
I will take a look at the migration of the REST plugin. But I don't see the point of supporting codebehind from convention, as they are separate plugins, users can choose any one they like, we are just saying that convention is the recommended one, and there won't be more development on

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Struts - Struts - Build Def:

2008-05-14 Thread Wendy Smoak
FYI, I turned off 'error' notifications (which you usually can't do anything about-- svn outage, etc.,) for the Struts 1.x builds. You'll only get notified on 'failure' now. -Wendy On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Online report :

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Benedict
FWIW, I am also against the name convention plugin. Conventions change over time, and I don't think any one plugin should be the convention. I'd like to have a name that explains the intent behind the convention. That's why names like Zero Config or REST are much more affable. Paul On Wed, May

Struts 2 GUI tools

2008-05-14 Thread James Holmes
Anyone have any ideas for what they'd like to see in a Struts 2 Eclipse plugin? I'm thinking of developing a follow up to Struts Console that is specifically targeted at Struts 2 and Eclipse. With the move to convention over configuration it seems that a GUI interface to the struts.xml config

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Musachy Barroso
It turns out that making codebehind work from convention is quite easy (DI FTW!), but again, I think this would be a bad choice. musachy On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Musachy Barroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will take a look at the migration of the REST plugin. But I don't see the point

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Brian Pontarelli
+1 Here are the goals of this plugin. Any movement to integrate plugins and make all things compatible (which I gracefully disagree with) MUST satisfy these goals: - Simple API that is fixed and will not change anytime soon - Usable with absolutely no configuration or annotations -

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Musachy Barroso
We all agree on updating the REST plugin, but we can't do that until Convention lands on trunk. If we are divided on the topic of Convention supporting Codebehind vs keeping them as stand alone plugins, should we then vote on that? musachy On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Brian Pontarelli

RE: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Bob Tiernay
+1 I think that this plugin is of great worth to every day development. I would like to echo some other people's sentiments that a unified plugin would be a significant value add to new struts developers. I know that there is much overlap and confusion between: 1. Zero-config 2. Code

Re: How to get elements from a list without using logic:iterate

2008-05-14 Thread whitesox12
Is there any other way other than using JSTL. As I am trying to use struts tags only. Thanks Antonio Petrelli-3 wrote: 2008/5/14 whitesox12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have a List that holds only 5 JavaBean Objects. Now I need to show the data on the JSP but don't want to use the

Re: How to get elements from a list without using logic:iterate

2008-05-14 Thread Chase
EL is not the JSTL. EL can be used outside of the JSTL (assuming you are on a recent version of the spec). You might have better luck asking in the correct mailing list. This list is for the development of Struts, not usage. -Chase whitesox12 wrote: Is there any other way other than using

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Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Al Sutton
Has anyone made a web page comparing the plugins?, if it took a while to get to grips with it's probably worth offering users a page with something like a checkbox grid feature comparison. It could also help some of us understand what each one does ;). Al. - Original Message - From: