Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-23 Thread Sean Schofield
I agree that its time for Shale to find a new home. I actually think that living here in the Struts project is holding Shale back more then its helping at this point. I also feel that Shale is still a little ahead of its time. JSF is still gaining acceptance and Shale builds on JSF. Imagine

Re: Continnum Is Up

2006-06-23 Thread Sean Schofield
@Sean or anyone who knows, Can we do nightlies with Continuum? I didn't think that was possible, but I seem to remember some discussion about it somewhere. Yes its definitely possible. See the myfaces continuum[1] for details. The nightly part was a group effort so I can't speak to all of

Re: [Shale][PROPOSAL] Cut over to Maven2 based source tree

2006-06-19 Thread Sean Schofield
Clean checkout and build works like a charm. I will try to take a look and see what else needs doing. Sean On 6/18/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see I am too late to add my +1. Thanks for the work Craig. I will try and test this on Monday. Sean ps. The continuum server

Re: [Shale][PROPOSAL] Cut over to Maven2 based source tree

2006-06-18 Thread Sean Schofield
I see I am too late to add my +1. Thanks for the work Craig. I will try and test this on Monday. Sean ps. The continuum server is just sitting idly. We could start adding projects to it now if we wanted. On 6/16/06, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 -- Everything looks great. --

Re: svn commit: r414249 - /struts/action2/trunk/core/src/main/java/org/apache/struts/action2/components/GenericUIBean.java

2006-06-14 Thread Sean Schofield
Do we need to create a jira issue even if its just changing some javadoc, like typo or snippet id is wrongly assigned etc.? IMO that's overkill. Sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [Shale] Nightly Builds Resumed

2006-06-12 Thread Sean Schofield
Craig, James and I are going to attempt to setup the Shale continuum server on Wednesday. Should we try to setup the publishing of Shale nightlies as well? Sean On 6/12/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you following Shale, you've probably noticed that there have not

Re: [Shale] Nightly Builds Resumed

2006-06-12 Thread Sean Schofield
That would be awesome! But I wouldn't bother setting up the Ant based builds, though; the focus should be on getting the Maven based things to work. A wrinkle is you might have to be a bit adaptable on the assembly stuff, as we're not quite done creating that. And, that actually raises a

Re: Continuous integration for Struts

2006-06-07 Thread Sean Schofield
it on my calendar. -- James Mitchell On Jun 5, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Sean Schofield wrote: I'd say set up our own continuum instance in the struts zone. It wasn't too difficult to do for MyFaces. This way we have complete control and reliability. Eventually we may want to auto deploy examples

[shale] Best practice for unit testing Tag class?

2006-06-06 Thread Sean Schofield
Is there a recommended practice for testing out my JSP Tag classes? Is this even desirable? I'm thinking that its nice to verify that values and value bindings are being set properly. Maybe we could add something to shale-test that could combine the mock stuff with a real tag? I'm still

Re: Continuous integration for Struts

2006-06-05 Thread Sean Schofield
I'd say set up our own continuum instance in the struts zone. It wasn't too difficult to do for MyFaces. This way we have complete control and reliability. Eventually we may want to auto deploy examples to the zone as well. There is much more flexability this way. My plate is fairly full but

Re: svn commit: r410977 - in /struts/shale/branches/mvn_reorg: core-library/src/conf/ core-library/src/designtime/ core-library/src/java/ core-library/src/main/ core-library/src/main/java/ core-librar

2006-06-02 Thread Sean Schofield
Everything (including bug fixes) should be going in the mvn_reorg branch. Ignore the test repo from now on. Sean On 6/1/06, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were a couple of commits to shale between when mvn_reorg was copied and this commit. Without looking over this file by

Re: Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-02 Thread Sean Schofield
Suggestion: We should rename core-library to shale-core. It saves a lot on maven/continuum headaches if the name of the dir matches the name of the artifact. We did not do this in MyFaces (for some valid reasons) but its a definite inconvenience. I haven't checked the other artifacts but that

Re: Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-02 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 for shale-core, shale-test, shale-clay, etc., as directory names matching the artifactIds. Done For the apps, I see a really long artifactId for the sql browser app, and would rather have it match the name of the war file: shale-sql-browser. Are you suggesting changing the artifact id

Re: Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-02 Thread Sean Schofield
* I presume we don't have to list the individual applications themseves in the shale-parent-pom file, because things get processed hierarchically? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean shale/pom.xml and including: modules moduleshale-clay/module

Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-01 Thread Sean Schofield
I set up a new branch[1] for performing the maven reorg for shale as we discussed in the other thread. For now lets reorg everything as if we are using a single trunk for all of the shale modules. It will be easier to reorg this way for now and if we decide to break them out we can do that

Re: Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-01 Thread Sean Schofield
don't. Sean On 6/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/1/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next step is to replicate all of the changes Wendy made using her script. I need to leave the office for a few hours but if nobody does this while I'm gone I will see what I

Re: Maven Reorg (Was -- Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted)

2006-06-01 Thread Sean Schofield
resource. @Craig: Any ideas? Try running mvn -Pmyfaces test and then examine the output in target. All of the necessary resource files shoudl be in the classes or test-classes dirs. If not, then we missed something. Sean On 6/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/1/06, Sean Schofield

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
You once explained how you worked around something similar in MyFaces, any advice for this one? Change the dependency in core-library to be a *released* version of shale-test. Wendy Sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
@Craig: Is there any special reason for a designtime dir? Can these be compiled with the source in src/main/java? If not, we can deviate from m2 defaults and specify this additional source directory but maven is happier if you stick with its standard layout. Sean On 5/30/06, Sean Schofield

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
I guess things depend on how often you envision the two modules changing in the future. If test is more likely to change, you can make the core ref in test be the On 5/31/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/31/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You once explained how you

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any special reason for a designtime dir? Can these be compiled with the source in src/main/java? It's a separate artifact in the Ant build (shale-designtime.jar) so it's a separate module in the Maven project structure. Is that what you were

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
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Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
Why a sub-project of core? It's a separate, optional jar, like shale-tiger. I think it belongs in shale/designtime as its own module. I agree ... and, if I understood you correctly, switching to a Maven build will require not only this, but also splitting up core into separate modules for

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
I can see a reason to have Clay and Test Framework on separate trunks, but I'm not so sure that spring and tiles really need a separate release cycle from core. Well if we don't split out tiles and spring, whenever you release a new core, you are going to release a new spring and tiles jar

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
? I wasn't sure if you needed to make a new copy in light of Craig's dependency solution. Sean On 5/31/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see a reason to have Clay and Test Framework on separate trunks, but I'm not so sure that spring and tiles really need a separate release cycle

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
I'm lost, though, with what you did in designtime. First you suggested separate trunks for everything, and now you want designtime (but not spring or tiles) underneath core? Well design time is inherently linked to core. It makes no sense to release one without the other. With shale-test,

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
Using main works for me if we want to go this way. I would stay away from main b/c we have src/main/java when following the maven convention. I would suggest core (again if we go this way.) But, does apps really belong underneath main (I can see the logic on the rest of them)? And, do we

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-31 Thread Sean Schofield
Sean, why don't you go ahead and check in what you've got, and don't worry too much about recording the commands it took to get there exactly. With the test repo as a reference, we'll be able to figure it out. I don't want to lose momentum, and it's easier to discuss the project structure when

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-30 Thread Sean Schofield
I basically do not have internet access while onsite at my newest client. Are they Amish? James Mitchell Sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build -- Help Wanted

2006-05-30 Thread Sean Schofield
I checked in some minor fixes to the core POM. I added a dependency (test scope) to shale-test. There are still missing source files in the core library. I think src/designtime also needs to be moved to src/main in the m2 reorg. Sean On 5/27/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made

Re: Continuous integration for Struts

2006-05-30 Thread Sean Schofield
MyFaces has a continuum server setup in our zone. The newest version of continuum seems to work quite nice and email notification can be limited to failure only if you don't want the high traffic. Sean On 5/30/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/26/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Release the struts-parent pom v2

2006-05-04 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to release version 2 of the struts-parent pom: * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/pom/pom.xml This is the parent pom from which struts-action-parent inherits, and it needs to be released prior to the Struts Action

[jira] Commented: (SHALE-48) [shale] Serious issue with dialog state

2006-04-26 Thread sean schofield (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-48?page=comments#action_37197 ] sean schofield commented on SHALE-48: - This issue hasn't really been fixed. Its was resolved as Later in bugzilla. Its still a pretty bug. I think we should reopen

Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP

2006-04-21 Thread Sean Schofield
So you are suggesting Tiles be decoupled from Struts Action and Shale so that it can be compiled independent of these modules? Definite +1 and this was my impression all along as well. As for top level project, I agree that Tiles probably belongs here but I'm not opposed. For me the main thing

Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP

2006-04-21 Thread Sean Schofield
Should we just make the bare minimum changes to get Tiles out of the sandbox or is it worth it to do major surgery? +1 Tiles is pretty mature and I don't sense a lot of interest in perfecting it. It would be nice to have it stand on its own (dependency wise) but I'm not volunteering. Tiles

Re: Bugzilla to JIRA migration

2006-04-20 Thread Sean Schofield
Don, I've been off the list for a while now but can you explain why this is a completely separate JIRA instance from the other ASF projects? Why not use the existing one at http://issues.apache.org/jira? +1 (as always) for migrating to JIRA. I find Bugzilla to be unbearable compared to JIRA.

Re: Bugzilla to JIRA migration

2006-04-20 Thread Sean Schofield
to have their own JIRA project, and helps isolate problems so that one instance won't bring all projects down. It also made the migration of existing WebWork tickets much easier, if not even possible. Don Sean Schofield wrote: Don, I've been off the list for a while now but can you

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build (was Re: [action1] Which webapp dtds to include in struts-core.jar?)

2006-04-20 Thread Sean Schofield
Ideally not. It's already going to be painful to split up the core-library package (which now produces several JAR files) into separate modules solely because Maven likes one artifact per module. Shale publishes information on API stability (

Re: [shale] Maven 2 build (was Re: [action1] Which webapp dtds to include in struts-core.jar?)

2006-04-19 Thread Sean Schofield
I'd love to see Shale move to M2. I'll try to help with the limited Maven knowledge that I have gleaned from the MyFaces experience. I'd recommend starting out with a proposed hierarchy and set of artifiacts as a starting point. See if we can get the basics squared away first before sweating

Fwd: Action/Shale/JSF Overlap? (Was -- RESTful JSF)

2006-04-09 Thread Sean Schofield
[Moving this aspect of the discussion from myfaces to struts list ...] On 4/7/06, Jacob Hookom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Covered here a bit: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/jhook/archive/2006/03/the_new_servlet_1.html @Jacob: Great blog entry! @ Struts Dev: I recommend you check this out.

Re: [Proposal] Remove Tiles dependency in Action 1

2006-04-09 Thread Sean Schofield
Agreed. I handled this in scripting by adding an element to each dependency declaration marking it as optional or not. I used this new element to create the release notes (combined with changes.xml) as well as create website docs. Perhaps we could do something similar in Maven 2. Maven2

Re: [Proposal] Remove Tiles dependency in Action 1

2006-04-09 Thread Sean Schofield
But does MyFaces depend on Tomahawk components at compile time? This is the circular link that has me concerned. No, that part is different. Its a one-way dependency. I guess there is nothing that Maven2 can do for you then. Don Sean

Re: [VOTE] Release the struts-parent pom v1

2006-04-09 Thread Sean Schofield
Meanwhile, it was also deployed to cvs.apache.org/maven-snapshot-repository, so the repository element in the struts-action-parent pom will allow Maven to pick it up from there. Once it shows up on ibiblio, I'll remove it from the snapshot repo. Does that actually work? I figured Maven

Re: Maven 2 build working, more to come

2006-04-08 Thread Sean Schofield
On MyFaces we took a vote on version 1.0 of our master pom. For version 1.0.1 I put it in the apache maven repo directory and planned to take a vote before publishing to ibiblio. Apparently it got published anyways so we ended up releasing without voting. I think for something as trivial as a

Re: [action2] Maven 2 migration

2006-04-08 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 for master poms for the committers, etc. It works well on MyFaces. Sean On 4/8/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/06, Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been a semi-working build for maven 2 included with WebWork for a few months, but I'd like to make

Re: [VOTE] Struts Shale v1.0.2 Quality

2006-03-29 Thread Sean Schofield
Alpha and beta releases on ibiblio (for maven purposes) works for me. Final releases on the ASF mirror network. Sean On 3/28/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/26/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was

Re: Struts Shale v1.0.2 Quality

2006-03-25 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 (non binding) for Alpha On 3/23/06, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Alpha as well. Outside of the one known issue with the sql-browser application, it looks good. Nice work Wendy. Gary -- Original message -- From: Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-19 Thread Sean Schofield
On 2/18/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/18/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the problem I was not running the entire test suite of myfaces tests in my IDE. When I ran them in Maven, I believe an earlier test was calling the get method

Re: Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-18 Thread Sean Schofield
of the MyFaces tests to use it! On 2/17/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I was thinking that maven is relying on the jars and since there is a config file in there the myfaces render kit is getting loaded instead. I will check into it. Thanks. Sean On 2/17/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL

[shale][mock] Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Schofield
I am trying to use the mock stuff in my app. The test works fine in my IDE (1.4.2_04-b05) but does not run in maven (1.4.2_08-b03.) Specifically, the class cast exception is on line 131: renderKit = (MockRenderKit) renderKitFactory.getRenderKit(null,

Re: [shale][mock] Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Schofield
I'm attaching my test case. Its a test for the latest MyFaces trunk code. /* * Copyright 2006 The Apache Software Foundation. * * Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the License); * you may not use this file except in compliance with the License. * You may obtain a copy of the

Re: [shale][mock] Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Schofield
:118) at junit.framework.TestSuite.runTest(TestSuite.java:208) at junit.framework.TestSuite.run(TestSuite.java:203) On 2/17/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/17/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching my test case. Its a test for the latest

Re: [shale][patch] Fix incorrect EL expression syntax in sql-browser sample

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Schofield
That is weird. On 2/16/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ryan. Interesting that the mis-typed version actually worked in both 1.1 implementations :-). Craig On 2/16/06, Ryan Lubke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Index: sql-browser/src/web/query.jsp

Re: Weird ClassCastException

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Schofield
Yeah I was thinking that maven is relying on the jars and since there is a config file in there the myfaces render kit is getting loaded instead. I will check into it. Thanks. Sean On 2/17/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/17/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: svn commit: r372715 - /struts/shale/trunk/build/test-framework/project.xml

2006-01-27 Thread Sean Schofield
Wendy, With m2 wouldn't you just give this a scope of test? Sean On 1/26/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/26/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see why these two have to be declared, since the Shale code directly depends on them. But HtmlUnit itself ships

Re: svn commit: r372389 - /struts/scripting/trunk/project.xml

2006-01-26 Thread Sean Schofield
I know it seems weird but once you get used to it its not that bad ;-) On 1/25/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: mrdon Date: Wed Jan 25 17:25:11 2006 New Revision: 372389 URL:

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-23 Thread Sean Schofield
Trust me, you didn't miss anything. The things discussed offlist, as I do with yourself, Martin and others are almost always unrelated to decision making. I'm glad I was able to help Wendy and others get up to speed with what I had done so far with Maven, and since then she has far surpassed

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-19 Thread Sean Schofield
The problem with chat is that not everyone is available to participate at the designated time that people decide to have a chat. As I mentioned earlier, there are timezone differences and day job commitments that make it difficult for everyone to participate in a discussion simultaneously. So by

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-19 Thread Sean Schofield
Once the chat transcript is posted, people can reply to it asynchronously, like anything else. Back when we were setting up Maven, James and Wendy mentioned that had a few chats while getting everything configured. If they were chatting in a place that was automatically transcripted, some of

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-17 Thread Sean Schofield
I agree with Ted about the importance of mailing lists. Mailing lists are the Apache Way. The only time I have used off-llist communication is during an infrastructure move where we needed to rapidly complete several steps in a short period of time. Even then the basic outline of work was

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-17 Thread Sean Schofield
IMHO, it sounds like Jive is not up to the task of managing an ASF-style dev list. Any decent mailreader can filter mails into whatever folders we find convenient, creating the personal equivalent of five or six separate lists, if that's what someone wants. GMail also has *excellent* search

Re: Rép : [shale] Dialogs and Convention over Configuration

2006-01-01 Thread Sean Schofield
Time to catch up with my Struts emails ... I haven't looked at Shale Tiger yet so I can't comment on that part. As for the dialogs, I prefer XML configuration similar to what we already have. Our dialogs are pretty complicated and its hard to imagine the more sophisticated aspects of Shale

Re: [shale] Overall requirements for remoting feature

2006-01-01 Thread Sean Schofield
* (Optional) alternative dynamic execution mapping to execute a Commons Chain command (essentially equivalent to the current functionality, and/or a tie-in to Struts Action Framework 1.3.x type processing logic). David has some good points about Chain being a bit of overkill. I didn't

Re: [VOTE] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Quality

2005-12-23 Thread Sean Schofield
[X ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) Non binding ... On 12/23/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/5/05, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you have had a chance to assess to quality of this build, please respond with a vote on the quality: [X] Alpha

Re: [VOTE] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Quality

2005-12-20 Thread Sean Schofield
Logon Dialog * After clicking into the logon dialog accidentally and pressing back to return to the menu without logging in, an HTTP Status 500 error is exposed, compelling a restart of the application. -- javax.servlet.ServletException: Position[dialogName=Log On,stateName=Logon

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Struts committer: Rich Feit

2005-12-19 Thread Sean Schofield
Rich, It was nice meeting you at Apache Con. Welcome to the team. sean On 12/19/05, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Rich, good news on that! ;) Greetings, Matthias -Original Message- From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 18,

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Struts offers Shale for JSF

2005-12-16 Thread Sean Schofield
FYI Dakota Jack is a troll. Please don't encourage him, even if you agree with his position. sean On 12/16/05, Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds familiar :) I definitely would recommend changing the slides and title of the presentation. Just yesterday I ran in to this:

Re: [OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-10 Thread Sean Schofield
I think my favorites are just managing the import statements, identifying unused members, and precompiling the code as I work. It's now very rare for me to run a make and have it fail. Yes I forgot to mention precompiling. That is a HUGE benefit. That will save you several hours over the

Re: [OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-10 Thread Sean Schofield
What is a classpath? Are you going to be at Apache Con? If so we can get together over dinner and I can explain it to you ;-) Niall sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

[OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-09 Thread Sean Schofield
Please keep in mind that there are still a good number of people who do not use an IDE at all. Why on earth would you someone do such a thing? Seriously. I'd like to know :-) Frank W. Zammetti sean - To unsubscribe,

Re: [OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-09 Thread Sean Schofield
targeted usages, I can't imagine being in any of them all day. Frank Greg Reddin wrote: On Dec 9, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: Please keep in mind that there are still a good number of people who do not use an IDE at all. Why on earth would you someone do such a thing

Re: [OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-09 Thread Sean Schofield
There are plenty of way to debug. But what if you need to test Java 6 features BEFORE it's set in stone? (Like I tried it, reported a bug w/ JDIC and Sun fixed it). Does Java 6 work in your IDE? That's a pretty specialized case. I haven't tried it but I don't see why not. Most IDE's allow

Re: [shale] jsf-commons??

2005-12-08 Thread Sean Schofield
I think a jsf-commons project would be nice. Craig's suggestions certainly make for good candidates. There are a few in MyFaces that would definitely be appropriate as well. For MyFaces the plan is to rename the share subproject to commons and to start releasing it as its own jar. In the

Re: [VOTE] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Quality

2005-12-07 Thread Sean Schofield
I haven't forgotten this. I probably won't get to testing until after ApacheCon. Its going to be a mad dash to get my work done before then. sean On 12/5/05, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After completing the required steps in the Struts Shale 1.0.0 release plan:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Target tickets to milestones and use as roadmap

2005-12-01 Thread Sean Schofield
We also create an artificial milestone called Future that we assign things that are of the wish-list variety. We always schedule it after all of the other versions so that it doesn't bog down the roadmap displays. Same here. We use TBD. -Paul sean

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-01 Thread Sean Schofield
I can't believe how much you like to punish yourself! Is anyone else helping you with this massive effort? I'd offer to help but my workload is at about 250% capacity right now. When things stablize I'll take things for a spin in Shale. sean On 12/1/05, Greg Reddin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [VOTE] Confirm Shale 1.0.0 Test Build Release Plan

2005-12-01 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 On 12/1/05, Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 (non-binding) L. Craig McClanahan wrote: All of the outstanding issues have been accounted for -- it's time to release the initial test build of Shale! Given the amount of time since the 1.0.0 release plan was first proposed,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Target tickets to milestones and use as roadmap

2005-11-30 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 for JIRA. I was going to suggest it right off the bat when the WebWorks merger was proposed but I decided to hold back since nobody seemed to like the suggestion the last time I made it ;-) Martin is right about the SVN integration. You get some nice linkage between issues and SVN revisions

Re: Tough Questions on Struts and Webwork Integration

2005-11-29 Thread Sean Schofield
I have a few thoughts on this and I will try to avoid the Which framework is better? discussion. Change is inevitable. Struts (as you know and use it today) will eventually become obsolete. Nobody can say when the last meaningful Struts 1.x application will be written but that day will

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT][shale] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Release Candidate 1 Available

2005-11-28 Thread Sean Schofield
? sean On 11/28/05, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that release candidates can be helpful with checking packaging errors (and testing against TCK which is not an issue in this case.) That's true, Sean, but what you may

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT][shale] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Release Candidate 1 Available

2005-11-28 Thread Sean Schofield
Tags, not branches. We don't create a branch until we know we need it. Yes but branches allow you to work out the kinks of your upcoming release without introducing new bugs with the nightly fixes and new features. I was suggesting that as a way to speed up the release process. Martin Cooper

Re: [shale] component level render permissions

2005-11-28 Thread Sean Schofield
I guess here is where I'm wondering why we need a framework to accomplish this at all, given what JSF already provides? Consider something like this, using JSP syntax: h:panelGrid ... rendered=#{ securityChecks.managerOfAppropriateDepartment} ... components to conditionally

Re: [shale?] mimicking wildcard action mapping paths

2005-11-28 Thread Sean Schofield
Yould can probably implement your own NavigationHandler. Check out the DialogNavigationHandler in Shale. It implements custom navigation handling on top of the JSF standard. You could try something similar. sean On 11/28/05, Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McClanahan wrote: On

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT][shale] Struts Shale 1.0.0 Release Candidate 1 Available

2005-11-27 Thread Sean Schofield
The purpose for a release candidate in this case is it's the first time ... and we've already caught some packaging errors that need to be cleaned up. Shale will follow the (overlapping and not always consistent) guidelines posted on the Struts and Jakarta Commons web sites about x.y.z

[shale] Value binding expressions and immediate = true

2005-11-21 Thread Sean Schofield
In my Shale dialog I a single required field called foo. There is also a command link with an action listner (no action method binding.) The command link has the immediate attribute set to true (its only purpose is to empty the foo component. When I click the link the action listener resets the

Re: [shale] Value binding expressions and immediate = true

2005-11-21 Thread Sean Schofield
[snip] * When an immediate action (not actionListener) is used, the JSF runtime calls FacesContext.responseComplete() to bypass validations and model updates. That doesn't happen with an action listener unless you do it for yourself. I was not aware of the distinction. That explains why it

Re: SVN Question

2005-11-17 Thread Sean Schofield
If a file was moved by someone else while you were working on it, I think the best thing to do is a clean checkout in a separate dir. Then copy the file change to the new dir and revert the change in the old dir. Then remove the new dir and resume in the original dir after you update. Make

Re: [shale] Using RemoteCommand with Dialogs

2005-11-15 Thread Sean Schofield
Gary, I agree that EJB can be overkill in some instances. I wanted to use transactions in my COR solution so I did some cool stuff with commons-chain. I used the Filter object (extends Command) which guarantees that its postprocess method will be called if its execute method is called. I

[shale] Using RemoteCommand with Dialogs

2005-11-14 Thread Sean Schofield
I was hoping for some feedback on this design approach .. I have a dialog with several different screens. One of the screens is using inputSuggestAjax (a MyFaces - Tomahawk component.) The list of choices that backs this input component is quite large (approx 8,000 choices.) I was hoping to

Re: [shale] Using RemoteCommand with Dialogs

2005-11-14 Thread Sean Schofield
[snip] I take it this is to avoid keeping the list around when you don't need it ( i.e. you're not on the view containing the Ajax component)? I presumeit must be relatively cheap to populate the overall list in the first place? Yes that is the point. Its cheap enugh to create it for each

Re: Live DTDs

2005-11-14 Thread Sean Schofield
Those are cool. You might also want to consider the tlddoc that we are using in MyFaces [0]. Its pretty sweet. Also, when did everyone star using the [n] footnote notation in their emails. Seems like a few months ago this convention started becoming really popular. Its growing on me ;-) sean

Re: [shale] Using RemoteCommand with Dialogs

2005-11-14 Thread Sean Schofield
You mentioned the action method in your previous email, I presume you were refering to the DialogNavigationHandler's action method? That would potentially tie behavior specific to this dialog (clearing some backing bean) to the generic dialog processing, which would make that approach far

Re: Live DTDs

2005-11-14 Thread Sean Schofield
Ah yes that is it. Maven does this for you? Interesting ... sean On 11/14/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/14/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are cool. You might also want to consider the tlddoc that we are using in MyFaces [0]. Its pretty sweet. You

Re: svn commit: r331859 - /struts/site/trunk/xdocs/volunteers.xml

2005-11-10 Thread Sean Schofield
Yeah Martin mentioned the same thing. sean On 11/10/05, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + + h4 id=gvanmatreSean Schofield -- Committer/h4 + You might want to consider adjusting the id value, lest you fall prey to

Re: [shale] Another dialog idea

2005-11-10 Thread Sean Schofield
I know this conversation was over a week ago but I finally had some time to get back to my mailing list backlog... (see inline comments below) How is this different from just encapsulating your setup logic into an action method, and then calling it as the first state of the dialog explicitly?

Re: [shale] Robust dialogs

2005-11-10 Thread Sean Schofield
Rahul, These are interesting use cases. I'm not sure that there is an easy solution to these problems though. The back button and browser cacheing are handy for the end user but certainly a PITA for developers! One option would be to use the Token Pattern (See Core J2EE Patterns). Shale has

Need help building site

2005-11-08 Thread Sean Schofield
I am trying to get up to speed with the new Maven2 builds. I can't build the site right now b/c I get an erroror about missing mojo resources. I am running 'mvn install' from the site's build dir. TIA, sean - To unsubscribe,

Re: Need help building site

2005-11-08 Thread Sean Schofield
building ok. (Thank goodness I have not lost mojo after all.) sean On 11/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/8/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get up to speed with the new Maven2 builds. I can't build the site right now b/c I get an erroror about

Re: Need help building site

2005-11-08 Thread Sean Schofield
Actually I still need a little more help. 'maven site' generates new xdocs but does not transform to HTML. Is there another maven command to build the HTML? Are you guys using forrest or some other form of xdocs? TIA, sean On 11/8/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maven 1.0.2

Re: Need help building site

2005-11-08 Thread Sean Schofield
Ok its working now. I am trying to follow the golden rule of building the site before checking in. You never know when you have accidentally messed up an xdoc somewhere. sean On 11/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/8/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I

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