Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-24 Thread Jeromy Evans
jelmer wrote: Second, I always thought of the custom tags and ognl as a core part of the framework and also it's core strength. Seeing people on this list discus removing it makes me ... somewhat nervous. Why would be the reasons to do this. Everything from formatting, typeconversion to

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-23 Thread Adam Hardy
@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: If I had 1000 hours to give... No it doesn't, but then neither does the Struts tags if no OGNL :) On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really??? I don't think jsp:getProperty does conversion and formatting - does it? James Mitchell on 20/03

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-23 Thread jelmer
was a requirement for tags to perform conversion and formatting. -- From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:58 AM To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: If I had 1000 hours to give

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-23 Thread Adam Hardy
Do you mean my email makes you nervous? The dev@struts.apache.org is a public list for the discussion of the development of struts, and this thread is titled If I had a 1000 hours to give... with the implication the subject is future directions. Why do you have a nervous reaction to my desire

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-21 Thread Adam Hardy
: Jeromy Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-21 Thread James Mitchell
@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice through : - SEO-friendly URLs become

If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Jeromy Evans
It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice through : - SEO-friendly URLs become the default and users never have to think about it again; -

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Al Sutton
. - Original Message - From: Jeromy Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Antonio Petrelli
: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice through : - SEO

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would try to: - Completely refactor all tags/components (it's really hard to extend and customize) and extract them to a plugin, making it easier to drop in a different tag library implementation. - Simplify and

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Adam Hardy
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice through : - SEO

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread James Mitchell
@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Pontarelli
- Overhaul message passing so that action errors and action messages could be persisted through redirects with no user configuration or validation issues. Scopes plugin works pretty well from what I've heard. - Overhaul zero configuration to allow results to be defined at method level

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Pontarelli
Here's my list: - Collapse XWork into Struts - Rewrite XWork to be a servlet workflow engine and less abstract (i.e. remove thread locals and contexts) - Fix nasty circular XWork injections and setter injections - Generics - Update all public APIs no matter how infrequently used and then hard

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread James Mitchell
Here's my list: - Create a struts2-jror-plugin that let's me develop/deploy my RoR app as a standard Java Web Application (via JRuby) This would allow me to deploy my apps under the corporate-approved stamp for Struts 2 ... yet still get (almost) all the wonderful benefits of true rapid and

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Philip Luppens
My quick list: - rewrite XWork; simpler, more flexible: annotations, generics, classpath scanning, pluggable expression language and validation. - take a step back, and follow a bunch of new developers to see where the documentation is lacking. - I don't like the ajax theme at all - it's a real

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Bob Tiernay
: If I had 1000 hours to give... It's been quiet lately so I thought I'd throw something out there. If you could give 1000 hours to the Struts 2 project, what would you do? I would like to it become the SOA framework of choice through : - SEO-friendly URLs become the default and users never have