Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-19 Thread jean-frederic clere
Costin Manolache wrote: Will we have installers for it ? for the moment a tarball or zip file should be ok, shouldn't it? Will the installer/release include the associated libapr ? Yes. What about openssl? I assume both native and java code will be included ? I am not sure of that... A

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-18 Thread Remy Maucherat
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:19 +0100, jean-frederic clere wrote: [X] Make tcnative release independent from tomcat release and add the corresponding pages in http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ [ ] Remove existing tcnative releases. (others are using them). Rémy

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-18 Thread Costin Manolache
Will we have installers for it ? Will the installer/release include the associated libapr ? I assume both native and java code will be included ? What additional docs will be needed ? Will tomcat releases bundle it, or just require to download it separately ? It would be great to have it as

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Rossbach
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:19 +0100, jean-frederic clere wrote: [X] Make tcnative release independent from tomcat release and add the corresponding pages in http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ [ ] Remove existing tcnative releases. (others are using them). Peter

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-18 Thread Henri Gomez
[X] Make tcnative release independent from tomcat release and add the corresponding pages in http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ I'd like this idea. jk or tcnative are part of the 'tomcat' chain and could (should) be packaged independently. Their life cycle is not the same. A +1

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Jan 15, 2008 10:19 AM, jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ X ] Make tcnative release independent from tomcat release and add the corresponding pages in http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ I like modularity. Yoav

[VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread jean-frederic clere
Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be independent from tomcat. There are several reasons: - The native code is in /tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native and it checked out via links in tc trunk/6.0.x/5.5.x. - The logic to have tcnative independent is already in the code of trunk and

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Mladen Turk
jean-frederic clere wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be independent from tomcat. There are several reasons: - The native code is in /tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native and it checked out via links in tc trunk/6.0.x/5.5.x. -

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Yoav Shapira
I'd vote the same given the new choice. I'm also willing to help with putting docs up, etc. On Jan 15, 2008 10:47 AM, Mladen Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mladen Turk wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be independent from tomcat. There are several reasons: - The native code is in /tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native and it checked out via links in tc trunk/6.0.x/5.5.x. - The logic to have tcnative

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Mladen Turk
jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be independent from tomcat. There are several reasons: - The native code is in /tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native and it checked out via links in tc trunk/6.0.x/5.5.x. - The logic to have tcnative independent is already

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Mladen Turk
Yoav Shapira wrote: I'd vote the same given the new choice. I'm also willing to help with putting docs up, etc. Can we guys discuss this more before putting any vote? Vote means we cannot make any consensus, so we need to make a 'by majority rule' decision. The whole discussion started less

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Remy Maucherat
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:19 +0100, jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases should be independent from tomcat. There are several reasons: - The native code is in /tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native and it checked out via links in tc trunk/6.0.x/5.5.x. - The logic

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Mladen Turk
Remy Maucherat wrote: The native component can be used by many Tomcat releases, and has been tagged and released independently. Of course, it is often done in sync with Tomcat to introduce new APIs, but overall it's quite similar to mod_jk releases. But it's not even close to the mod_jk

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread jean-frederic clere
Yoav Shapira wrote: I'd vote the same given the new choice. I'm also willing to help with putting docs up, etc. On Jan 15, 2008 10:47 AM, Mladen Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Hi, I think that the tcnative releases

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Rainer Jung
Mladen Turk wrote: Remy Maucherat wrote: The native component can be used by many Tomcat releases, and has been tagged and released independently. Of course, it is often done in sync with Tomcat to introduce new APIs, but overall it's quite similar to mod_jk releases. But it's not even

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Remy Maucherat
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 17:54 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: Looking at it's formal qualities, it already has some properties of such a product: - the API between tcnative and the component using it seems stable - When we have a problem in tcnative, we fix it there and allow TC users to update

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Mladen Turk
Remy Maucherat wrote: (for example, existing Tomcat users will be able to take 1.1.12 and use it with older Tomcat releases to fix a bug), so it would need a release vote and separate tagging. Sure, the same can be done with commons-logging.jar from any future version I suppose ;) Anyhow,

Re: [VOTE] tcnative releases independent from tomcat

2008-01-15 Thread Rainer Jung
Remy Maucherat schrieb: I don't think that it needs to be managed as a full project (and it does not have 3 developers). However, it still looks as a release of something separate than a Tomcat release (for example, existing Tomcat users will be able to take 1.1.12 and use it with older Tomcat