Re: Updates applied to Contents/MacOS instead of application directory (.app), causing all updates to either fail or break the app XULRunner 17.0

2012-12-04 Thread Robert Strong
The associated code for figuring this out is at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/toolkit/xre/nsUpdateDriver.cpp#621 Does your app bundle contain the xulrunner bundle or the xulrunner bundle contain your app bundle? Robert On 12/3/2012 6:57 AM, Fredrik Motin wrote: This is what

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-05 Thread Robert Strong
On 12/5/2012 8:07 AM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: On 12/3/2012 5:39 PM, Norbert Lindenberg wrote: OK, just as an introduction, why we're doing this: The ECMAScript Internationalization API (which has been approved by Ecma TC 39 and is on track to become an Ecma standard next week) provides web

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Robert Strong
On 7/12/2013 1:12 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham g...@mozilla.org wrote: We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter in expended effort than shipping a security

Re: Can we teach the updater to download and install multiple partial updates?

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Strong
While that might makes sense to implement for nightly, aurora, and possibly beta builds it doesn't makes sense to implement for release builds where the vast majority of users are and there are many higher priority bugs to work on that affect nightly, aurora, beta, and release. On 11/20/2013

Re: Can we teach the updater to download and install multiple partial updates?

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Strong
I filed bug 941949 for what I think is a better solution https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941949 - Support partial updates for more than the last update for nightly and aurora Robert On 11/20/2013 11:37 PM, Robert Strong wrote: While that might makes sense to implement for nightly

RE: Application MAR-file auto Update not working from 29.0 to 29.0.1

2014-05-15 Thread Robert Strong
That error is due to not having an update manifest in the mar and implies that the update mar wasn't generated with a manifest. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/updat er/updater.cpp#3700 Robert -Original Message- From: dev-platform

RE: Application MAR-file auto Update not working from 29.0 to 29.0.1

2014-05-19 Thread Robert Strong
MAR-file auto Update not working from 29.0 to 29.0.1 Hi Robert. Yes update.manifest file seems to be missing. Any solution for this. On Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:43:43 UTC+5:30, Robert Strong wrote: That error is due to not having an update manifest in the mar and implies that the update mar

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird and GRE/XRE/XULRunner

2014-07-08 Thread Robert Strong
Regarding the other files there would need to be a versioning scheme implemented so applications would be able to figure out which one is compatible. Since any of these applications can be installed stand alone each one would need to be available during install and update unless we expended

RE: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Strong
Yes, this is very much on our radar. Cheers, Robert -Original Message- From: dev-platform [mailto:dev-platform-bounces+rstrong=mozilla@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Ehsan Akhgari Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:33 PM To: Ben Hearsum Cc: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re:

Re: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing

2014-08-27 Thread Robert Strong
- Original Message - From: Philipp Kewisch mozi...@kewis.ch To: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing On 8/13/14 2:59 PM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: On 8/13/2014 3:34 AM, Philipp

RE: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing

2014-08-27 Thread Robert Strong
Extension manager docs on install locations shows that Mac has a system install location https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Installing_extensions Robert -Original Message- From: dev-platform [mailto:dev-platform-bounces+rstrong=mozilla@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Robert

RE: Support for 32bit on OS X and testing infrastructure

2014-09-19 Thread Robert Strong
Regarding dropping support, Silverlight on Mac does not support 64 bit and we run it using 32 bit. So at the very least we will need html5 for sites like Netflix before we can drop 32 bit support on OS X. Robert -Original Message- From: dev-platform [mailto:dev-platform-

RE: Support for 32bit on OS X and testing infrastructure

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Strong
Robert Strong wrote on 09/19/2014 06:59 PM: Regarding dropping support, Silverlight on Mac does not support 64 bit and we run it using 32 bit. So at the very least we will need html5 for sites like Netflix before we can drop 32 bit support on OS X. I see. So I will investigate what's

RE: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Strong
Quick status update on the progress for Mac v2 signing. All of the major changes for Mac v2 signing have landed on the Oak branch. This will allow us to test installing and updating before landing on mozilla-central. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046906

RE: Upcoming changes to Mac package layout, signing

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Strong
then on. If you find any bugs that you believe are due to these changes please file a new bug under toolkit - application update and we'll take it from there. Thanks go out to everyone involved in making this happen on such short notice! Cheers, Robert -Original Message- From: Robert Strong

Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer

2014-10-14 Thread Robert Strong
- From: Justin Dolske dol...@mozilla.com To: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:34:53 PM Subject: Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer On 10/14/14 2:20 AM, Robert Strong wrote: * (Countries' average) Internet speed dramatically affected conversion

Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer

2014-10-14 Thread Robert Strong
Another example, if the omni.jar is not compressed the installer can compress it about as well as if they were individual files and the minimal compression currently used by omni.jar makes it so the installer is not able to compress the omni.jar nearly as well which increases the installer

Breakdown of Firefox full installer

2014-10-14 Thread Robert Strong
- Original Message - From: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org To: Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com Cc: Chris More cm...@mozilla.com, dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org, Daniel Veditz dved...@mozilla.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:09:30 PM Subject: Re: Breakdown of Firefox full

Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer

2014-10-15 Thread Robert Strong
- Original Message - From: Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc To: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org Cc: Chris More cm...@mozilla.com, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com, dev-platform dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org, Daniel Veditz dved...@mozilla.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014

RE: Breakdown of Firefox full installer

2014-11-03 Thread Robert Strong
-Original Message- From: dev-platform [mailto:dev-platform- bounces+rstrong=mozilla@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Robert Kaiser Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:47 PM To: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer Mike Hommey schrieb:

RE: Building Firefox install

2014-11-10 Thread Robert Strong
Since you are using Nightly it defaults to Nightly. I'm not positive this covers everything but to make Nightly use a different name you will need to set MOZ_APP_NAME and MOZ_APP_DISPLAYNAME to the names you want and set --with-branding=%RELATIVE_PATH_TO_THAT_DIR% and point it to the branding

Is MOZ_SHARK still used?

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Strong
I filed Bug 1150312 to remove it if it is no longer used so please speak up if it is. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150312 Thanks, Robert ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client, attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread Robert Strong
I've only seen those when anything tries to print to the console after a test has called do_test_finish and in that case I suspect it is due to xpcshell shutting down, etc. Robert On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:35 PM, ishikawa ishik...@yk.rim.or.jp wrote: Hi, I am not sure where to ask and so

Re: Can we make a plan to retire Universal Mac builds?

2015-08-07 Thread Robert Strong
I believe the blocklist ping also has it and I know metrics used the blocklist ping instead of the update ping in the past. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Ben Hearsum bhear...@mozilla.com wrote: On 2015-08-06 10:10 AM, Eric Shepherd wrote: Hubert Figuière wrote: But Only 10.7 and later can

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Strong
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Chris Peterson wrote: > On 1/4/16 10:45 AM, Daniel Holbert wrote: > >> On 01/04/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Matthews wrote: >> >>> >Wouldn't the SSL cert failures also prevent submitting the telemetry >>> >payload to Mozilla's servers? >>> >>

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Strong
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Robert Strong <rstr...@mozilla.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Chris Peterson <cpeter...@mozilla.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/4/16 10:45 AM, Daniel Holbert wrote: >> >>> On 01/04/2016 10:33 AM, Josh

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Strong
> > https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/StaticHPKPins.h#739 > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Robert Strong <rstr...@mozilla.com> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Jesper Kristensen < > > moznewsgro...@something.to.remove.jesperkri

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Strong
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Jesper Kristensen < moznewsgro...@something.to.remove.jesperkristensen.dk> wrote: > Den 04-01-2016 kl. 19:45 skrev Daniel Holbert: > >> On 01/04/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Matthews wrote: >> >>> Wouldn't the SSL cert failures also prevent submitting the telemetry >>>

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Strong
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Robert Strong <rstr...@mozilla.com> wrote: > I was under the impression (perhaps falsely) that the params for those > entries made it so that aus4 and aus5 don't enforce pinning. > and the pinning hack I added years ago was removed. > > &g

Re: All about crashes

2016-06-03 Thread Robert Strong
I think that the ADI data comes from the blocklist ping which includes OS version (possibly Windows service pack as well). Robert On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016, at 04:58 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > "Improve ranking of crash

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-26 Thread Robert Strong
Users won't get updated to an unsupported version and they will be notified that their system is no longer supported. The notification includes an url to a page for additional information. I'm not familiar with the Mac installer but since it is just a dmg I don't know if there is much that can be

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-26 Thread Robert Strong
d Apple would show a 'not supported on this > version' dialog. We could including a warning background graphic, but > that's a poor experience for unaffected users. > > -r > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Robert Strong <rstr...@mozilla.com> > wrote: > >

Re: Update of "removed-files"?

2016-03-24 Thread Robert Strong
The removed-files file is only used for files within the application directory during an application update. This mitigates security issues of having an elevated process manipulating files outside of the application directory which can lead to exploits. There are cases where this process won't

Re: Updating 32-bit Windows users to 64-bit Windows builds?

2016-05-19 Thread Robert Strong
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Tobias B. Besemer < tobias.bese...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2016 22:41:01 UTC+2 schrieb Benjamin Smedberg: > > We have considered this, but in the grand rollout plans for 64-bit > Firefox > > it's low on the list. We're still dealing with Flash

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Robert Strong
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin Smedberg > wrote: > > > I agree that we should drop support for non-SSE2. It mattered 7 years ago > > (see

Re: Updating 32-bit Windows users to 64-bit Windows builds?

2016-05-12 Thread Robert Strong
We would have to since other users on the system can have shortcuts pointing to the original location. We've also performed some minimal testing that this is fine when we looked into this a couple of years ago. Robert On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote:

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-03 Thread Robert Strong
App update has the ability to show the user a message that the system is no longer supported based on the update.xml served by release engineering. Robert On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: > On 5/3/16 12:21 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > * The update server

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-03 Thread Robert Strong
It can be done with a one-off update mar file that includes the files that aren't included in an update. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > On 5/3/16 4:59 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: > >> On 5/3/16 12:21 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: >> >> * The update server has been

Re: Windows XP and Vista Long Term Support Plan

2016-10-31 Thread Robert Strong
Aaron, thank you for explaining the reasons for this decision so thoroughly! On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: > Disclaimer: I am not a decision maker on this, these are my personal > opinions, etc, etc > > On 10/31/2016 3:54 PM, juar...@gmail.com wrote: >

Re: Heads Up: /storage upgraded from version 1.0 to 2.0

2017-03-07 Thread Robert Strong
Are there any problems experienced by clients that downgrade to an older version after their profile has been upgraded? Thanks, Robert On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Jan Varga wrote: > Since the integration of bug 1339081 [1] ​in Nightly, the storage has > been upgraded

Re: Figuring out and controlling what tasks run before first paint

2017-08-08 Thread Robert Strong
One thing that comes to mind is how some code registers app specific observers so the code runs after the UI is displayed. https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsUpdateService.js#180 https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/devtools/shared/system.js#24