Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-25 Thread Eddy Nigg
David E. Ross: Is the problem here caused (or at least compounded) by the implementation of bug #399045? See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399045. No. -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: https://blog.startcom.org

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-24 Thread Eddy Nigg
Nelson B Bolyard: I am confident that removing the email trust flag from the Entrust root that cross certified the Diginotar root key would effectively stop certs issued by Diginotar from being treated as valid email certs. This is the only method in which I am confident, today. We have

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-24 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-06-24 14:56: Another question is, what happens if the cross-signed certificate is revoked AND NSS recognizes the revocation. Would this effectively have the DigiNotar root show up as revoked? It would, UNLESS any of the following were true: 1. A newer Entrust

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-24 Thread Eddy Nigg
Nelson B Bolyard: Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-06-24 14:56: Another question is, what happens if the cross-signed certificate is revoked AND NSS recognizes the revocation. Would this effectively have the DigiNotar root show up as revoked? It would, UNLESS any of the following were true: 1. A

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-23 Thread Robert Relyea
Frank Hecker wrote: 3. Find some other way to get NSS not to recognize DigiNotar certs for email, perhaps in combination with some action by Entrust and/or DigiNotar. For example, one idea is to have end users of DigiNotar certs reconfigure their email clients to have cert chains that

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-22 Thread Frank Hecker
David E. Ross wrote: Has the failure by Entrust to enforce its policies against DigiNotar been brought to the attention of Entrust's auditors? I think it should. For the record, Entrust understands what our concern is and has been cooperative in trying to come up with a way to address it.

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-22 Thread Eddy Nigg
Frank Hecker: For the record, Entrust understands what our concern is and has been cooperative in trying to come up with a way to address it. However the problem is that even if Entrust were to revoke DigiNotar's intermediate CA certificate that would not help resolve the problem, for the

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-22 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg wrote: Perhaps Nelson can provide more information about the road map for CRL fetching, but it will be soon supported by NSS. This would solve the problem once it is. Note that there are other things besides CRL checking per se that I'd like to see in NSS. There seem to be a lot

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-21 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/20/2008 5:44 PM, Eddy Nigg wrote [in part]: This boils down to either of the two other options. If NSS isn't able to choose the DigiNotar root or treat the cross-signed certificate as revoked, than the email bit of Entrust should be set to off until the issue is solved in a different

Re: Update on DigiNotar and Entrust

2008-06-20 Thread Eddy Nigg
Kyle Hamilton: I tend to disagree. I think that Mozilla needs to grow enough balls to boot out anyone who doesn't continue to adhere to the standards for inclusion after approval. The first step is to receive a firm commitment from the CA. Before kicking a CA out of NSS, Mozilla should make