Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-10 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Anders Rundgren wrote: It is too late introducing TLS-SRP, the market will not use it. Uh? There's not just one single market that will or won't use a particular protocol feature. There are plenty of different areas where TLS is used and some of them will use TLS-SRP,

Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-10 Thread Anders Rundgren
On 2011-03-10 09:32, Daniel Stenberg wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Anders Rundgren wrote: It is too late introducing TLS-SRP, the market will not use it. Uh? There's not just one single market that will or won't use a particular protocol feature. There are plenty of different areas where TLS

Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-10 Thread Brian Smith
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: I don't see it as a substitute for PKI, only as a substitute for user/password. If you want SRP but don't need TLS-SRP then you could implement SRP outside of NSS and then build the UI support around that non-NSS support as a HTTP 1. The user's username is sent

Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-09 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Brian Smith wrote: An augmented PAKE user authentication protocol might be very useful for some things, but TLS-SRP seems very troublesome. IIRC, there are at least four deal-breaking problems with TLS-SRP as a substitute for PKI: I don't see it as a substitute for PKI, only as a substitute

Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-09 Thread Anders Rundgren
It is too late introducing TLS-SRP, the market will not use it. Why not make NSS more useful for certificates instead? Anders On 2011-03-09 09:45, Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: Brian Smith wrote: An augmented PAKE user authentication protocol might be very useful for some things, but TLS-SRP

TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-07 Thread Brian Smith
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: But Curl, that supports secret keys from version 7.21.4, with GnuTLS only at the moment but is pushing hard to get in in Openssl also, apparently has simply given up about having TSP-SRP support when compiled with NSS. I see in an old doc that Johnathan was

Re: TLS-SRP (was Re: J-PAKE in NSS)

2011-03-07 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Brian Smith wrote: But Curl, that supports secret keys from version 7.21.4, with GnuTLS only at the moment but is pushing hard to get in in Openssl also, apparently has simply given up about having TSP-SRP support when compiled with NSS. Can I just add that we (in the