browser inconsistencies - calling CSS experts

2005-01-13 Thread David Crossley
I am going to paraphrase a conversation that i heard recently on IRC, discussing the usability of the current Forrest website. can't even view it with FireFox ... more-or-less works in FF for me ... perhaps designed for IE ... the search box is all over the place ... fonts are unreadable ... the

entity resolution with POD input

2005-01-23 Thread David Crossley
Ron Blaschke wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ron Blaschke wrote: If not, can anybody recommend a DTD parser that is available under the Apache License? jpod uses it to resolve Eentity formatting codes, which are akin to entity; in XML. Forrest has its internal Catalog Entity Resolver

Re: svn commit: r126215 - /forrest/trunk/main/build.xml

2005-01-23 Thread David Crossley
Why would this suddenly be needed for gump? It was okay without this until recently. I am wondering if it was a symptom of some other recent change in forrest. --David Author: cheche Date: Sun Jan 23 08:00:24 2005 New Revision: 126215 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=126215

Re: [Proposal] forrestbot at apache.org

2005-01-24 Thread David Crossley
I suddenly realised the issue with cocoon-trunk. It needs to run its 'build docs' before running 'forrest'. It generates some extra source documentation before forrest starts. There is a global parameter forrest-exec which can call a shell script to do other things, then call forrest. I have the

Re: [VOTE] Forrest Project Guidelines

2005-01-31 Thread David Crossley
Here is my +1 --David

Re: [Proposal] forrestbot at apache.org

2005-01-31 Thread David Crossley
Dave Brondsema wrote: David Crossley wrote: Dave Brondsema wrote: David Crossley wrote: I suddenly realised the issue with cocoon-trunk. It needs to run its 'build docs' before running 'forrest'. It generates some extra source documentation before forrest starts. There is a global

issues with our use of ant-contrib (Was: [GUMP]: Project forrest-test failed)

2005-02-09 Thread David Crossley
I asked about this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11079957123 and a kind soul provided the solution. No time left for me today. --David Gump wrote: To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information

[heads-up] forrest website updated

2005-02-17 Thread David Crossley
I just re-generated the site and published it. While doing so, i realised that i made a major stuff-up the last time that i did it ... clobbered some of 0.6 docs with the 0.7-dev stuff. I hope that i have fixed it now. Here are some notes: 1) build the forrest_06_branch docs and copy them to

Re: [heads-up] forrest website updated

2005-02-18 Thread David Crossley
Bowe, Bastian wrote: after opening http://forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/ and clicking on the Project tab I get a 404 Ah thanks, i see that the Welcome tab is the same. I will investigate. They need to point up one directory. --David

Re: avoid rebuilding pages?

2005-02-21 Thread David Crossley
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: hey, the lenya site contains a changes.html created out of the SVN changelog [1] forrest takes over 5 minutes to create that page, which makes it a pita to wait for when running forrest site. from what i can tell, forrest spends a lot of time pondering the

planning for 0.7 release

2005-02-21 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Dave Brondsema wrote: Because 0.6 docs are not split, things are pretty confusing. I speculate it might be worth it to get a 0.7 release out the door primarily so our online docs make sense. 0.7-dev has been pretty stable for a while and it has

Re: [Proposal] forrestbot at apache.org

2005-02-23 Thread David Crossley
I solved some of the remaining failures with the forrestbot. Both forrest-site and forrest-docs-dev needed to have a full 'svn checkout' done before the forrestbot starts. Forrestbot only does 'svn co' of part of the source tree and so it misses the conf directory for forrest-site. Dunno what the

Re: 0.7 Plugin Documentation

2005-02-23 Thread David Crossley
Jason End wrote: I was wondering if anyone would object to me rewriting the Plugin documentation. My understanding is that the 0.7 documentation isn't finished and hence I find some of the topics slightly confusing. Please do. Documentation is never finished :-) and there is always room for

trunk broken with recent i18n fixes (Was: svn commit: r154917)

2005-02-23 Thread David Crossley
This changes causes breakages when doing 'forrest' in docs-author. Every document gets errors like the following. Do we need an upgraded Cocoon 2.2? X [0] libre-intro.html BROKEN: org.apache.cocoon.environment.commandline.CommandLineRequest.getLocales() method not yet implemented! --David

Re: trunk broken with recent i18n fixes (Was: svn commit: r154917)

2005-02-24 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David Crossley wrote: This changes causes breakages when doing 'forrest' in docs-author. Every document gets errors like the following. Do we need an upgraded Cocoon 2.2? X [0] libre-intro.html BROKEN

Re: Extending DTD catalog in plugins

2005-03-01 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Since I am not very clued in with catalogs and their use I have no opinion on this thread, but I do need to implement something. So, if someone has the time (and the wine) to design a solution for *exactly* the problem

Re: Embedding forrest in custom software

2005-03-13 Thread David Crossley
Arik Kfir wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Arik Kfir wrote: We are thinking about embedding Forrest as a content generation engine in our software. Apache lenya is trying to do the same thing. :) I changed the response address to the dev list because we discuss such things in the dev

Re: merging separate sets of generated docs, default tabs (Was: svn commit: r157791)

2005-03-16 Thread David Crossley
Reinhard Poetz wrote: David Crossley wrote: This was deliberate. We will eventually need to find a better way to link separate sets of documentation. Apache Cocoon has this same issue. Yes, this is a maintenance nightmare ATM. Any improvment here would be hightly appreciated! So would

Re: planning for 0.7 release

2005-03-16 Thread David Crossley
release plan. --David David Crossley wrote: Dave Brondsema wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Should we aim for a release date of Friday 2005-03-25? SInce it's Nicola's birthday I think that is a must - two excuses for a beer in the evening

Re: svn commit: r157895 - forrest/site/plugins/plugins.xml

2005-03-17 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Author: crossley Date: Wed Mar 16 21:06:16 2005 New Revision: 157895 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=157895 Log: Add the missing entry for pod-output plugin. Sorry - in my rush to do this the other day I forgot to commit to the main SVN server.

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-17 Thread David Crossley
Just a quick note, gotta rush out now. Yes there was stacks of discussion on this topic, but its good to be sure that we all understand, and maybe there is a flaw. The docs that are currently at docs/dev/ are 0.7-dev They will move to /docs/ when the next release happens. Then /docs/dev/ will

[notice] websites and mail and svn not available next days

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
The ASF infrastructure is doing work on the servers over this extended weekend. So you may find that some services are not available. The websites will automatically fail-over to another server. The mail is the priority, and they will try to have it up again ASAP. The SVN and ViewCVS will probably

Re: [ProjectInfo Plugin] Action layout no more taken into account...

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: Ok, Ross, I was wrong once again, I was not looking in the good direction... In fact, my status.xml declared a section before the changes tag. (I use this section to describe - in my history of modification - the rules I apply to choose the next version

Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: We need to be continually cleaning up our Jira issue tracker. There is a lot of clutter and it means that we cannot have a good view of our situation. We recently defined a stack categories. That helps to provide other ways to browse

Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: What i am proposing now is an extra step. Remove the option HEAD version entirely from Jira. I think it is superfluous. Sorry - I'm reading too fast this morning. If a bug is introduced into head (i.e. wasn't in the previous release) where would

Re: status.xml in seed site

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross, during the move of the status/changes/todo processing into the projectInfo plugin, the status.xml file was removed at main/fresh-site/status.xml ... Was that deliberate? http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=156244 Ahhh... hmmm... yes

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Just a quick note, gotta rush out now. Yes there was stacks of discussion on this topic, but its good to be sure that we all understand, and maybe there is a flaw. The docs that are currently at docs/dev/ are 0.7-dev They will move to /docs/ when

Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-18 Thread David Crossley
Done. That clarifies the Roadmap. Do any people out in the Forrest dev community know other things that we can do to improve our use of Jira? Or point to projects that use it well. --David

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-21 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: The missing piece is that we need to clearly denote the version number on all docs. We should be able to do something rough-and-ready to get us by. I have been experimenting with ways to do this. Even if just a quick fix, it needs to be configurable. I am calling

Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-03-22 Thread David Crossley
Dave Brondsema wrote: Quoting Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Brondsema wrote: Quoting David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Done. That clarifies the Roadmap. Do any people out in the Forrest dev community know other things that we can do to improve our use of Jira

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-03-23 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Dave Brondsema wrote: /docs/dev/ nested below /docs/ seems weird. I think it would be better to host the current stable release at a url like: /docs/0.7/. This would also permit us to keep documentation for all old releases (although we would probably want

Re: [JIRA] Commented: (FOR-446) Dokumentation: HowTo Customize HTML Processing

2005-03-24 Thread David Crossley
http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-446 The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Ferdinand Soethe Created: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 1:38 AM Body: Thanks for the feedback. Re splitting The reason I did not split them after some consideration, is that

annotated sitemaps to assist writing docs

2005-03-24 Thread David Crossley
Some discussion from http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-446 Dunno what the answer is yet ... David Crossley wrote: I am concerned about the annotated sitemaps in howto/*.xmap.html as it will be difficult to keep these synchronised as the Forrest core sitemaps change over time. Perhaps we

SVN properties (Was: svn commit: r159468)

2005-03-30 Thread David Crossley
Due to all these fancy filename extensions for text files, committers are going to need to configure their SVN clients accordingly. Someone recently committed an SVN configuration file to an ASF repository - i thought that it was committers but i cannot now find it to add these new ones. Does

Re: SVN properties (Was: svn commit: r159468)

2005-03-30 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Due to all these fancy filename extensions for text files, committers are going to need to configure their SVN clients accordingly. http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-124 Thanks but that is not the one that i meant. I think

Re: [JIRA] Commented: (FOR-446) Dokumentation: HowTo Customize HTML Processing

2005-03-30 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC They are really separate issues: DC 1) understanding the sitemap DC 2) customising the particular pipeline that processes html sources. They could be if the text about the site maps was a general explanation (which it isn't - yet?). Though

Re: svn commit: r158748 - forrest/trunk/docs-author/skinconf.xml

2005-03-31 Thread David Crossley
Dave Brondsema wrote: motd-page-url/docs//motd-page-url doesn't work if these docs are standalone (e.g on my machine). Yeah, sorry. I knew it would make a broken link for local docs, but thought that it was more important to get the website happening at this stage. Would it help to use a

Re: duplicate plugins for view(s)

2005-04-03 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: There are two plugins org.apache.forrest.plugin.view and org.apache.forrest.plugin.views. Argh, sorry, i should read all the day's mail first. Thorsten has fixed that. --David

plugin naming convention

2005-04-03 Thread David Crossley
I see that many of our plugins, even new ones, are not using the naming convention. ... snipped from plugins/pluginInfrastructure.html - org.apache.forrest.plugin.PLUGINNAME net.sf.forrestPlugins.PLUGINNAME In addition the name of the plugin should indicate the type of plugin it is:

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello devs, trying to deploy the view and leather plugin I found a weird thing happening: Doing 'forrest run' brings the site rendered by the plugins, but doing 'forrest' will use the normal skin. How come? How can I fix that? Any ideas? What do i need to

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello devs, trying to deploy the view and leather plugin I found a weird thing happening: Doing 'forrest run' brings the site rendered by the plugins, but doing 'forrest' will use the normal skin

Re: plugin naming convention

2005-04-04 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: I see that many of our plugins, even new ones, are not using the naming convention. ... snipped from plugins/pluginInfrastructure.html - org.apache.forrest.plugin.PLUGINNAME net.sf.forrestPlugins.PLUGINNAME In addition the name

Re: acknowledgement of contributors and author attribution

2005-04-04 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: For various reasons, the ASF Board suggested to all projects to remove authors from sources. Apache Forrest follows that recommendation. Prior to each release we scan the code to detect any license issues and any author tags. Om that case how

Re: 2nd generation skinning - view and leather

2005-04-04 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: If somebody have some spare time and want to help us with the 2nd generation skinning you can: I will certainly be helping out, but not until 0.7 is released. Once that is done this is right at

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-04-05 Thread David Crossley
Dave Brondsema wrote: [snip] Furthering this idea, if we are versioning and storing docs-author and site-author, do we really need to store them seperately? As you said, this method would mean we won't have to restructure the forrest_06_branch docs into two parts. Good point. This

Re: clean up the plugins

2005-04-05 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: I started going through the plugins to fix any major issues before the release. The /plugins/ area of the website has some old *.zip for the plugins that have been renamed ... OpenOffice.org.zip feeder.zip htmlArea.zip text-output.zip Should

Re: svn commit: r160109 - in forrest/site/plugins/docs/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org: ./ skin/ skin/screen.css

2005-04-05 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Author: rgardler Date: Mon Apr 4 15:13:48 2005 New Revision: 160109 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=160109 Log: Deployment of org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org plugin (deployed by 'deploy' target of plugin build script) Added:

Re: 2nd generation skinning - view and leather

2005-04-05 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: If somebody have some spare time and want to help us with the 2nd generation skinning you can: I will certainly be helping out, but not until 0.7 is released. Once that is done this is right at the top of my

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-04-05 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: How do people suggest I integrate the plugin docs with the main website docs? If they went under docs/plugins/$plugin-name/ then they will fit better with the versioning system described above. OK, that's where I'll put them

removing author tags

2005-04-06 Thread David Crossley
I have gone through our sources and removed the few remaining author tags. There are still some in some Cocoon sources that have been imported at: whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.Database/**/*.java etc. ... not worried about those author tags, that is a Cocoon issue. There are

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-08 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: You will see the plugin get rendered by 'forrest' with the pelt skin in build/site. If you now turn to 'forrest run' instance you find a complete different skin. I

suite of helper xsl templates (Was: svn commit: r160775)

2005-04-10 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Author: crossley Date: Sun Apr 10 07:06:29 2005 New Revision: 160775 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=160775 Log: Enable changes.html and todo.html to also be in subdirectories. Use relative location of images directory obtained via dotdots

Re: svn commit: r160651

2005-04-10 Thread David Crossley
Author: thorsten Date: Fri Apr 8 19:24:54 2005 New Revision: 160651 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=160651 Log: Renamed leather to viewHelper. Cleaned the view plugin from not needed code. added documentation to both plugins. Added:

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-04-11 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: How do we link from the main docs-author (or site-author?) part of the site? If we use docs/plugins/ then it will intergrate easily. With the final scheme, we now need to put the generated plugins docs in the forrest/site repository under the /0.7

Re: OT: Forrest site down

2005-04-12 Thread David Crossley
Sorry everyone. That was me again. I was tweaking the .htaccess on the server to experiment, rather than via SVN. Normally i would see my mistakes immediately but due to the rsync delay to ajax, i didn't. Then i forgot to check. Thanks to Joshua. --David

Re: Plugin naming conventions

2005-04-12 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: As has been agreed all plugins are to be renamed so that they conform with our naming convention. However, is the naming convention right? Currently we say: org.apache.forrest.plugin.NAME-input org.apache.forrest.plugin.NAME-output

Re: Wording for open issues

2005-04-12 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Hi, On http://forrest.apache.org/forrest-issues.html. I think that anoter words for describe open issues for upcomming release would make more sence. What about Release issues? Yes, i agree. This document is an anomaly. It is currently at the top-level, yet it

whitespace again (Was: svn commit: r161039)

2005-04-12 Thread David Crossley
Author: rgardler Date: Tue Apr 12 04:07:29 2005 New Revision: 161039 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=161039 Log: create a plugins index page Modified: forrest/trunk/site-author/content/xdocs/docs/plugins/pluginInfrastructure.xml

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-12 Thread David Crossley
Arik Kfir wrote: Should I file a JIRA on this (RFE)? Yes please. --David

Re: Howto V 2.0 transform

2005-04-14 Thread David Crossley
Mark Eggers wrote: After being away from using Forrest for a while, I decided to give it another shot. I am working on creating a large How To site, and hence my interest in the How To DTD. I noticed that the FAQ section of the How To V 2.0 DTD wasn't getting translated using the seeded

Re: Howto V 2.0 transform

2005-04-14 Thread David Crossley
Mark Eggers wrote: After being away from using Forrest for a while, I decided to give it another shot. I am working on creating a large How To site, and hence my interest in the How To DTD. I noticed that the FAQ section of the How To V 2.0 DTD wasn't getting translated using the seeded

Re: Howto V 2.0 transform

2005-04-15 Thread David Crossley
Mark Eggers wrote: David Crossley wrote: Hey, that was a clever way to demonstrate a fix, to tweak the sitemap to call a copy of the xsl. Thanks, I was just following the pattern that's being used. However, if you are using svn, then you could just change the actual file and send

Re: Howto V 2.0 transform

2005-04-15 Thread David Crossley
Mark Eggers wrote: David Crossley wrote: I'll try svn diff for my next submission (making faqs v2.0 consistent with document v2.0 and howto v2.0 I think). Hmm, i am not clear what you mean by that. I noticed that there are only head definitions for howto and document DTDs. When

describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-17 Thread David Crossley
A while ago we discussed our description of Forrest and concluded that it was a bit limiting. Actually trying to concisely summarise Forrest is a very difficult task. Here is what is was ... Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation framework based upon Apache

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-19 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Seems to be that I am the first one in trying to do it. I just did some testing, but I actually I get Message: null Description: No details available. Sender: org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet Source: Cocoon Servlet Request URI

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-19 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: A while ago we discussed our description of Forrest and concluded that it was a bit limiting. Actually trying to concisely summarise Forrest is a very difficult task. [ snip ] Two points, one a possible addition, the other a possible red herring

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread David Crossley
Brett Presnell wrote: Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brett Presnell wrote: [ snip ] Getting better, but I don't like the last sentence because it sounds like a document collection generated from the command line would be deployed with an automated robot, and I think you mean this

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread David Crossley
Taking the comments into account, we now have this ... Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework which uses Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasises separation of presentation and content, using a plugin architecture to transform and aggregate various input sources into

Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-21 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I know this has come up before, but I'm not sure which of the info in old threads is still relevant today so I'll ask again: If you remind us what came up before, then we might be able to tell you if still relevant. Why does Forrest expect unique element names in

Re: Including DTD's with plugins

2005-04-21 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: I'm no expert when it comes to catalogs and it's late so I am not going to try and fix this now. Perhaps someone can point me at the right docs somewhere on the web to tell me how to do this when I return to it tomorrow afternoon (GMT). My question is simple how do I

Re: Recognising commercial entities that support Forrest

2005-04-21 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: From my blog (http://www.jroller.com/page/rgardler/20050421#commercial_appreciation_of_open_source ) Matthew Langham often posts on the relationships between Open Source projects and commercial organisations profiting from those projects. Usually I find myself

Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-21 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I know this has come up before, but I'm not sure which of the info in old threads is still relevant today so I'll ask again: If you remind us what came up before, then we might be able to tell you if still relevant. Any

Re: svn commit: r164099 - /forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.projectInfo/status.xml

2005-04-21 Thread David Crossley
I don't understand what you mean Ross. It already works for me, the catalog entity resolver finds the local status DTD. That can be proved that by changing the publicIdentifier in status.xml to be deliberately broken, then it fails as it should, e.g. ... PUBLIC -//APACHE//DTD Status Foo-Bust

Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-22 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: I know this has come up before, but I'm not sure which of the info in old threads is still relevant today so I'll ask again: If you remind us what came up before, then we might be able to tell you if still relevant. DC Any answer

Re: possible entity resolver failure (Was: svn commit: r164099)

2005-04-22 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: [ snip ] I just verified I was at the latest release of Forrest, and did a clean build (somehow I always forget to do that). But no change. I double-checked again :-) that i have no un-committed files. Perhaps you should try

missing WEB-INF/jtidy.properties

2005-04-22 Thread David Crossley
I noticed on yesterday's 'svn update' that the file webapp/WEB-INF/jtidy.properties was removed. Yet i did see any commit message for that. Now i am getting broken build in site-author where it complains abou missing jtidy.properties Any clues anyone? --David

Re: possible entity resolver failure (Was: svn commit: r164099)

2005-04-23 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Recently i upgraded the entity resolver jar to a new pre-release. Today i reverted that, so lets see if that helps you. Bingo!!! That does the trick. For reference I am using Windows XP SP2 + Cygwin Thanks for your help. Oh, a bug. Sorry

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-26 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Sorry to join in so late. I was busy writing a paper describing Forrest in German so in a way warming up for this :-) I commend all of you for the progress visible when following this thread. Most changes seemed to make the message clearer for ordinary users.

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC I think that it confuses people. Forrest can have multiple DC source input formats, so this description conflicts with that. I changed that back an forth a couple of times and finally took 'formats' out. Not just because the repetition

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: In that case I may have liked it because of the work Ferdinand and I are doing on the ApacheCon presentation. I'm used to his words etc. Stick to the original if this new one is confusing. We can enhance the original. Ferdinand, i don't mean to dismiss any of your

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: RG I'd say stick with what we had I agree. No point in having a lengthy discussion. To a large extent it depends on the perspective you have and the background you come from. So if you feel happier with it, just ignore my proposal and stick

new PMC member: Johannes Schaefer

2005-04-27 Thread David Crossley
The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache Forrest has asked Johannes Schaefer to become a committer and a member of the PMC and he has accepted. Johannes has obviously been using Forrest in a demanding environment and is uncovering a number of important bugs, documenting them in the issue

Re: [Documentation] Mistake

2005-04-27 Thread David Crossley
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/plugins/index.html description of org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.dtdx Plugin : ... generate automa*g*ically some ... The original author perhaps intended it as a joke. http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/dtd-docs.html

Re: better use of Jira for Forrest

2005-04-28 Thread David Crossley
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: David Crossley a ?crit : It also led to a brilliant idea about a regular bug day which we should instigate soon. When will we decide the regular bug day ? How about we decide now. I reckon once per month. Perhaps we can do it more often if it works. Which day

Re: Is OOo license compatible with ASL?

2005-05-02 Thread David Crossley
Ross, would you please take this up on [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the first time that i have heard discussion of this SISSL license. The difficulty that i see is how to add their Exhibit A. For each file that you add, is that file to be standalone or is each file a mixture of other work plus our

Re: svn commit: r167890 - /forrest/trunk/site-author/content/xdocs/docs/faq.xml

2005-05-04 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: RG This only affects sites when generated from the command line interface RG (i.e. not when doing 'forrest run' or running as a webapp). To change it RG in non command line you need to override the sitemap redirects. RG I haven't read all your

Re: SVN Inconsitent Line Endings

2005-05-05 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Dave Brondsema wrote: I'd say we should find out why the HTML is generated with inconsistent line endings in the first place. True. I did a little testing, here's what I have discovered so far: - any file that is processed by XSLT has the line endings problem -

Re: [RT] Serving Apache Forrest site from live Forrest

2005-05-05 Thread David Crossley
Torsten Schlabach wrote: Nicola, My goal is to put a live Forrest on ASF infrastructure instead of the bot and have that serve all Forrest-based sites in Apache, comprising Lenya. Sounds good. Let me know if you need any help or input from us. Are you subsribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: whitespace changes (Was: svn commit: r167890)

2005-05-05 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC If people want to do many whitespace changes, then please DC try to keep them as separate commits to real content changes. DC Committers have a duty to monitor the commits. When the DC changes are mixed with whitespace

Re: whitespace changes (Was: svn commit: r167890)

2005-05-06 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC It seemed to also do other reformatting. Be sure to do 'svn diff' DC before committing. Should I revert it back to the original whitespaceing and insert my changes again? No. I was just making sure that people knew the problems

Re: [RT] Serving Apache Forrest site from live Forrest

2005-05-06 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: One thing I like about Forrest is that it's not only a static site generation engine, but it's capable of serving the site live. Changes are instantaneous, bandwith is perserved, and dynamic content can be employed. IMHO every Apache project that produces

Re: SVN Inconsitent Line Endings

2005-05-07 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: I presume that this does not happen when you do 'forrest' to build the plugin's docs, rather than doing 'ant docs'. I had also assumed that, however it turns our to be incorrect. In fact doing forrest

Re: tidy up live-sites.html (Was: svn commit: r169425)

2005-05-10 Thread David Crossley
Diwaker Gupta wrote: David Crossley wrote: Are there any others from our development community that can be added? Well, my homepage is forrest generated (http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker) -- but its a personal/academic web site, so I'm not sure if it qualifies for listing. If it does, do

Re: Forrest sites google ranking

2005-05-10 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I think we need to change the website so that we have an index.html page that is consitent through all releases. However, I do not claim to fully understand the Google ranking algorithm, so please correct me if I am wrong

Re: [Proposal] Forrest Terminology

2005-05-10 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Whenever I start explaining Forrest, I stumble into the problem of crossing terminology borders, using terms like 'build', 'compile', 'run' for the Forrest program and at the same time applying them to Forrest projects. If this is not just my ignorance about the

Re: AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread David Crossley
scott hutinger wrote: If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes. But that is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet. That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view. We can use pre-releases of these supporting products, we don't need to wait

Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread David Crossley
Antonio Gallardo wrote: David Crossley dijo: scott hutinger wrote: If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes. But that is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet. That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view. We can use pre-releases

Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: David Crossley dijo: Antonio Gallardo wrote: ... I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of fixes: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163view=markup Okay, i for one, am happy

Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-15 Thread David Crossley
Antonio Gallardo wrote: David Crossley dijo: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: David Crossley dijo: Antonio Gallardo wrote: ... I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of fixes: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW

Re: About unknow libraries within lib/core

2005-05-17 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Hi, I am cleaning up the libraries for the next release, and I would like to know if we need these libraries: castor-0.9.5.3-xml.jar Castor is for xsp maybe?, I thought that we did not want to put xsp support on forrest. Do we need it? nekodtd-0.1.11.jar

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