Re: JMS Clustering in Geronimo v1

2006-01-13 Thread Rajith Attapattu
I see one short criticalcommingon Geronimo at the moment is we haven't defined what can and what we have todo in terms of clustering.

I am glad you started the thread on JMS clustering, so some of the questions will be addressed

There is no documentation out there what has been done or needs to be done. Insteadof complainingI am planning to fill the gap with the help ofHernan, but would need help and input. We did disscuss some issues with HA-JNDI, there is lot of disscussions on Web clustering, but other than that there is no direction or disscussion.


This will confuse a lot of the end-users. Clustering is pretty darn important in any production-level deployment and if we don't give a clear idea to the community about where we stand or atleast the fact that we have recognized where we need to work or some sort of RoadMap the endusers will be very confused about the whole issue.


Regards,

Rajith
On 1/13/06, Dave Colasurdo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm wondering what claims *Geronimo v1* can make concerning JMSclustering.I do see that ActiveMQ makes quite a few claims around
clustering though am wondering exactly which capabilities areleveraged/relevant to Geronimo v1?Clustering/failover of message brokers?If so, where is this setup and where is the failover decision making done?
Queue Consumer Clusters?Message Failover?Other?Do the messaging applications require any awareness of the clusteredenvironment or is it transparent?Has anyone tested any of these scenarios using Geronimo v1?:)
Thanks-Dave-


Re: JMS Clustering in Geronimo v1

2006-01-13 Thread Jules Gosnell
My understanding is that ActiveMQ has full-featured clustering 
functionality.


I am sure that James will elaborate.

Jules


Rajith Attapattu wrote:

I see one short critical comming on Geronimo at the moment is we 
haven't defined what can and what we have to do in terms of clustering.
 
I am glad you started the thread on JMS clustering, so some of the 
questions will be addressed
 
There is no documentation out there what has been done or needs to be 
done. Instead of complaining I am planning to fill the gap with the 
help of Hernan, but would need help and input. We did disscuss some 
issues with HA-JNDI, there is lot of disscussions on Web clustering, 
but other than that there is no direction or disscussion.
 
This will confuse a lot of the end-users. Clustering is pretty darn 
important in any production-level deployment and if we don't give a 
clear idea to the community about where we stand or atleast the fact 
that we have recognized where we need to work or some sort of RoadMap 
the endusers will be very confused about the whole issue.
 
 
Regards,
 
Rajith
 
On 1/13/06, *Dave Colasurdo* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm wondering what claims *Geronimo v1* can make concerning JMS
clustering.  I do see that ActiveMQ makes quite a few claims around
clustering though am wondering exactly which capabilities are
leveraged/relevant to Geronimo v1?

Clustering/failover of message brokers?
If so, where is this setup and where is the failover decision
making done?

Queue Consumer Clusters?

Message Failover?

Other?

Do the messaging applications require any awareness of the clustered
environment or is it transparent?

Has anyone tested any of these scenarios using Geronimo v1?  :)

Thanks
-Dave-






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Re: JMS Clustering in Geronimo v1

2006-01-13 Thread James Strachan

On 13 Jan 2006, at 06:39, Dave Colasurdo wrote:
I'm wondering what claims *Geronimo v1* can make concerning JMS  
clustering.  I do see that ActiveMQ makes quite a few claims around  
clustering though am wondering exactly which capabilities are  
leveraged/relevant to Geronimo v1?


Clustering/failover of message brokers?
If so, where is this setup and where is the failover decision  
making done?


Queue Consumer Clusters?

Message Failover?

Other?

Do the messaging applications require any awareness of the  
clustered environment or is it transparent?


Has anyone tested any of these scenarios using Geronimo v1?  :)


ActiveMQ has all of those features; they are all done by the ActiveMQ  
broker.

http://activemq.org/Clustering

Unfortunately right now the integration of ActiveMQ into Geronimo is  
done via a few really basic GBeans which don't have the capability to  
configure all the clustering  failover options in ActiveMQ broker.  
Today the simplest option is just to run the ActiveMQ broker outside  
of Geronimo and just use the JMS client / JMS Resource Adapter / RAR  
inside Geronimo. However as we integrate the latest 4.x of ActiveMQ  
into Geronimo we hope to address this to make things fully  
configurable from inside Geronimo


James
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