Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-06 Thread Colm MacCárthaigh
Based on this thread, I'll going to commit an EOL notice later today (1.3.x is still CTR) and language nits and so on can be fixed with patches/commits as appropriate, and if anyone feels strongly they can revert :-) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Jorge Schrauwen jorge.schrau...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-06 Thread Colm MacCárthaigh
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 15:31 , Jorge Schrauwen wrote: +1 (non-binding) There are still to many questions about the 1.3 branch on the support channels IMHO One hopes that a formal EOL statement will be the encouragement that

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On Jan 6, 2010, at 06:22 , Colm MacCárthaigh wrote: If one of the goals here is to reduce the support nuisance and help folk out, should we also ask the Apache PR team for help? I'm sure they'd be willing to help publicise the change After 15 years of community support ... mumble mumble ...

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Jeff Trawick
2010/1/4 Colm MacCárthaigh c...@allcosts.net: Observers of the commits list may have noticed some small cleanups to the 1.3.x branch earlier today. There are currently a number of several years-old backport/patch proposals in there too, including two marked as release show-stoppers (neither

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Res
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jeff Trawick wrote: Apache HTTP Server 1.3.x * hasn't been actively maintained for years * is not at all suitable for use on any version of Windows * has been replaced by Apache HTTP Server 2.x, and our only recommended version at present is the latest 2.2.x release * is

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Res r...@ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jeff Trawick wrote: Apache HTTP Server 1.3.x * hasn't been actively maintained for years * is not at all suitable for use on any version of Windows * has been replaced by Apache HTTP Server 2.x, and our only

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
Jeff Trawick wrote: I'd stay away from the word deprecate. In software, it means that at some point in the future the user must migrate to a new interface/feature; formal deprecation is usually announced at the beginning of the ability to transition. We're years past that for 1.3. Anybody

[VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Noirin Shirley
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Dan Poirier poir...@pobox.com wrote: Colm MacCárthaigh c...@allcosts.net writes: Because ... stealing an idea from wrowe@ ... how about we formally deprecate the 1.3.x branch? Make one more release, but attach a notice to the effect that it will be the final

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Lars Eilebrecht l...@eilebrecht.net wrote: Jeff Trawick wrote: I'd stay away from the word deprecate.  In software, it means that at some point in the future the user must migrate to a new interface/feature; formal deprecation is usually announced at the

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Speaking from the community that provides end-user support for these products, a big +1 on that proposal. Sadly, questions will keep on showing up for a long time :( On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Noirin Shirley

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Rich Bowen
On Jan 5, 2010, at 15:31 , Jorge Schrauwen wrote: +1 (non-binding) There are still to many questions about the 1.3 branch on the support channels IMHO One hopes that a formal EOL statement will be the encouragement that most of these folks need to move into the new century. -- Rich

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Res
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Speaking from the community that provides end-user support for these products, a big +1 on that proposal. Sadly, questions will keep on showing up for a long time :( I agree,

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Res wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Speaking from the community that provides end-user support for these products, a big +1 on that proposal. Sadly, questions will keep on showing up for a long time :(

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: One hopes that a formal EOL statement will be the encouragement that most of these folks need to move into the new century. +1 to EOL for 1.3.x and capturing what that means to casual users in a formal document. -- Eric

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-05 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:30 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Res wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Speaking from the community that provides end-user support for these products, a big +1

[VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-04 Thread Colm MacCárthaigh
Observers of the commits list may have noticed some small cleanups to the 1.3.x branch earlier today. There are currently a number of several years-old backport/patch proposals in there too, including two marked as release show-stoppers (neither actually stopped the show, when last we had a

Re: [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 1.3.x branch

2010-01-04 Thread Dan Poirier
Colm MacCárthaigh c...@allcosts.net writes: Because ... stealing an idea from wrowe@ ... how about we formally deprecate the 1.3.x branch? Make one more release, but attach a notice to the effect that it will be the final release, and that in future we'll be distributing security updates by