Re: Myriad incubator projects

Yup. Luciano has been helping us file the INFRA tickets to get these created. So far, the dev@ mailing list works, and the (empty) git repo has been created. We're waiting for ebay to officially donate the source before we update the license and migrate the repo. We still need to create tickets

Re: Mesos frameworks and roles

We've discussed multi-role frameworks before (JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1142 ), but haven't yet found the strong validating use case that would drive the feature forward. Many users will instead just run N instances of the same framework, each with a different role. What

Re: proposal to change time for Myriad biweekly meeting

I'm not opposed, but 9-10am Pacific is lunchtime for our east-coasters, which is why I originally suggested 10am. We could do before lunch east-coast, meaning 8am Pacific, but that's really early for this night owl. :( Thoughts, suggestions? On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:14 AM, yuliya Feldman

Re: Mesos presentation for first China MUG meet up

://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GvuV_CB-ecHV8aON4qrnNAfCSmsceP1dQULuXffmRjs/edit?usp=sharing On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Zhongyue, I don't see your slides linked/attached, so I can't provide any feedback. Regardless, here are the slides we used at our

Re: Myriad sync next week

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Ken Sipe k...@mesosphere.io wrote: 10am… what timezone are you referring to. Assuming PST, tomorrow is a challenge for me, Friday works. ken On Apr 7, 2015, at 2:49 AM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: How about Wednesday(s) or Friday(s

Re: Doe we have a meeting? - seems I can not connect EOM

Please try again. https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/mesosphere.io/myriad?authuser=0 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:06 AM, yuliya Feldman yufeld...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

Fwd: [jira] [Resolved] (INFRA-9841) Confluence Wiki for Myriad Podling

We have a (confluence) wiki! If you have problems editing, send me your cwiki id and I'll figure out how to add you as an editor/admin. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Nalley (JIRA) j...@apache.org Date: Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 6:54 PM Subject: [jira] [Resolved] (INFRA-9841)

Re: Logo!

license/use. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Will Ochandarena wochandar...@maprtech.com wrote: It's nice. Any idea who owns it? On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: FWIW, I'm a fan of the flying elephant imagery http://s5.favim.com/orig/71/flying-art

Re: wiki access

Permission granted. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Jim Klucar klu...@gmail.com wrote: Please add me to wiki. Found a few bits to edit quick. jklucar Thanks!

Re: Trying to build/run Myriad

To subscribe to the myriad dev list, send an email to: dev-subscr...@myriad.incubator.apache.org For other commands, and the full archive, see: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-myriad-dev/ On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Evgeniy Chupriyanov t...@tchu.ru wrote: 17 авг. 2015

Re: myriad scheduler startup with HDP2.7

Myriad should be using jackson 2.5.1 https://github.com/mesos/myriad/blob/d6d765736ba1c8f59aa967457527331e1dab6743/myriad-scheduler/build.gradle#L13 Double-check your build.gradle, and make sure you don't have a jackson 2.2.3 preinstalled somewhere else on your system On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:20

Re: Documentation Comments

John, thanks a ton for your valuable feedback! We're glad to have your perspective as a user of the project, and I'm ready+willing to give you edit access to the wiki if you want to update it with your learnings, elaborate anything that's unclear, or add a new John's tips page. Just sign up for a

Re: making contributor

Hmm.. you already are a contributor, Yuliya, but it looks like the _Default Permission Scheme_ doesn't allow contributors to assign JIRAs to themselves (or anybody else). Only committers/PMC and administrators can assign issues to people. Mesos, on the other hand, uses Default plus Contributor

Re: wiki access

Brandon, you should have already had access, since you Liked my first wiki page. :) On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Brandon Gulla gulla.bran...@gmail.com wrote: I would also like access. bgulla On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Permission granted

Re: Wiki access please

Access granted. Enjoy! On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Swapnil Daingade swapnil.daing...@gmail.com wrote: Hi committers, I am looking for access to the Myriad wiki. Full Name: Swapnil Daingade Email: swapnil.daing...@gmail.com Username: sdaingade Regards Swapnil

Re: Trying to build/run Myriad

++ dev@myriad mailing list Evgeniy, Thanks for trying out Myriad. Sorry for my delayed response. Just got back from vacation. Have you flexed up to add any NodeManagers to your YARN cluster? See https://github.com/mesos/myriad/blob/phase1/docs/API.md#put-apiclusterflexup On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at

Re: making contributor

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Hmm.. you already are a contributor, Yuliya, but it looks like the _Default Permission Scheme_ doesn't allow contributors to assign JIRAs to themselves (or anybody else). Only committers/PMC and administrators

Re: Introducing Ruth - documentation

We should start with our Confluence wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYRIAD/Myriad+Home It's also recommended that we create a proper website at http://myriad.incubator.apache.org/ I'd rather we didn't rely on gh-pages, especially since the github repo is just a mirror of Apache

Re: Introducing Ruth - documentation

actually improved github integration. I talked to an Accumulo committer because I know they interact with people via github sometimes. He pointed me here https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/improved_integration_between_apache_and On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Adam Bordelon

Re: Jira ready (mesos/myriad github issues imported)

I just disabled our github issues link, and added a link to the new JIRA at the top of the github page. Please use JIRA from now on for any new issues or updates to existing issues. You probably need to create an account if you don't already have one. Let us know if you need to be added to the

Re: Myriad 0.1 release scope

We do have a JIRA 0.1.0 fix version field, but none of our issues use it yet. I think the goal was just to take what we have and make it work under Apache infrastructure, then vote on that for 0.1.0. Although other features like HA or FGS would be great, let's try to get our first Apache release

Re: Fine Grained Scaling and Hadoop-2.7.

with the changes I made so far. Comments/suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Santosh On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: a) Give the executor at least a minimal 0.01cpu, 1MB RAM, since the executor itself will use some resources, and Mesos gets confused when

Re: Fine Grained Scaling and Hadoop-2.7.

to use the launchTasks() API to launch a placeholder task with (1G,1CPU). Thanks, Santosh On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Ah, I'm understanding better now. Leaving the 2G,1CPU unused is certainly flawed and undesirable. I'm unopposed to the idea

Re: Merging MyriadExecutor with NodeManager

Thanks for the clear explanation, Swapnil. This sounds awesome. A much cleaner design, and it seems like exactly the kind of thing YARN AuxServices were created for. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Swapnil Daingade swapnil.daing...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Currently with Fine Grained

Re: Question for Mesos gurus

instructions you provided means the same? Rebuild and install any modules so that upgraded masters/slaves can use them Thanks,Yuliya From: Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io To: dev@myriad.incubator.apache.org; yuliya Feldman yufeld...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:06 AM

Re: Licensing for new files

According to https://github.com/mesos/myriad/pull/126/files the code already was, and will continue to be licensed under Apache 2.0. The only question is the Copyright, which was previously eBay Software Foundation, will soon be PayPal, and finally Apache Software Foundation. I imagine you'd just

Re: [Help needed from Mentors] SVN PubSub

gt; I am really confused. I hear you need SVN something. And you need some >> kind of web action. >> >> What specifically do you need? >> >> (I am heavily loaded right now and in a difficult time zone) >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Adam Bor

Re: [Help needed from Mentors] SVN PubSub

> Ted, >> > >>> >> > >>> Santosh and Adam both tried to commit to the svn repo but got >> > permission >> > >>> denied. Looks like they just need some kind of svn permissions to >> push >> > our >> > >>> site

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-myriad-0.1.0-incubating (release candidate 0)

r-runnable-0.0.1.jar On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Santosh Marella <smare...@maprtech.com> wrote: > I haven't created a git tag for the rc. I will try creating one in the > morning. > > -- > Sent from mobile > On Nov 9, 2015 1:10 AM, "Ad

Re: PRs and reviews

FYI, I asked the infrastructure-dev mailing list about merging github PRs, and these are the answers I got: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastructure-dev/201510.mbox/%3CCANyrgveNjTDWOXj6fM4v2hRhJXwB%3DS2ko8rZ_2if6AY2c-Knyw%40mail.gmail.com%3E and

New committer: Darin J

The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) for Apache Myriad has asked Darin to become a committer and PPMC member and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted. Please join me in welcoming Darin as a Myriad committer, and let's thank him for all his contributions so far. Looking

New Committer: Swapnil Daingade

The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) for Apache Myriad has asked Swapnil Daingade to become a committer and PPMC member and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted. Please join me in welcoming Swapnil as a Myriad committer, and let's thank him for all his contributions so far.

Re: [DISCUSS] Release prep for Myriad 0.1.0

Website sources don't need to be in the release tarball (would bloat it unnecessarily), and don't need to block the release of the 0.1.0 binaries, but we'll want the podling site up so we can announce our release on the website. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Santosh Marella

Myriad 0.1.0 Release Planning

Santosh has volunteered as the Myriad 0.1.0 release manager, and I will assist. As my first contribution, I submit these links: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases

Re: apache rat plugin

+1 to automated checking. I don't want to have to remember to tell people to add licenses to every new file. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Jim Klucar wrote: > I assume gradle can use Maven plugins? If so, there's a rat (Release Audit > Tool) plugin that checks file headers

Re: Default Mesos version

Certainly. Mesos only promises +/-1 version compatibility between the Mesos master and the scheduler's libmesos, and between the agent process and an executor's libmesos. So a modern (0.23+) Mesos may not work well with Myriad. We should be building Myriad with at least Mesos 0.24 now. On Wed,

Myriad DCOS Certification Checklist

Now, as Mesosphere ramps up our DCOS Service Certification program, I would like to share this checklist and the linked DCOS Service/CLI Specifications with the Myriad mailing list. (Ping me with your preferred email if you want checklist edit access.)

Re: Logo update

Sexy. Love the color scheme too. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Jim Klucar klu...@gmail.com wrote: I updated the logo PR with the new logo. Screenshot is in the comments. https://github.com/mesos/myriad/pull/113

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2015 ([ppmc])

I'm on it. (Unless somebody else wants to give it a go this time) On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Marvin wrote: > > > Dear podling, > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache > Incubator PMC. > It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of

Re: Pull requests

incubator-myriad, please On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Santosh Marella wrote: > Mohit/Adam, > > Against which repo should the new PRs be submitted? > > github.com/apache/incubator-myriad or mesos/myriad ? >

Re: Presentation links

http://mesosphere.github.io/presentations-community/ has a few, plus the youtube video from MesosCon On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Jim Klucar wrote: > Does anyone have a nice list of Myriad presentation links I can slam into > the website? > > Thanks >

Re: Code Migration to Apache Git

> > > > * Apache git mirror: git://git.apache.org/incubator-myriad.git > > > > * Github mirror: https://github.com/apache/incubator-myriad > > > > > > > > Please feel free to start using Apache repository for new development > > >

Fwd: [jira] [Closed] (INFRA-9840) ReviewBoard for Myriad podling

We now have a 'myriad' project in https://reviews.apache.org/r/new/ which should be linked to the Apache git repo. Feel free to start using ReviewBoard for future review requests. We'll figure out the best way to commit those patches. -- Forwarded message --no From: Gavin (JIRA)

Re: add to wiki

Darin, you now have edit permissions on the wiki. Santosh, you now have edit/admin permissions. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Santosh Marella wrote: > Hi Darin, > > I've added you to JIRA. Please let me know if you face problems using > MYRIAD JIRA. > > Thanks, >

Re: Getting Nodes to be "Running" in Mesos

You can certainly reduce the 1min delay in mesos-dns, although you might not want to go much lower than 5-10s, especially on a large cluster, since it can actually take a while for the master to generate all that state.json. We're working on the performance of state.json so that more frequent

Re: Reg Basic Myriad functionality, referring to MesosCon 2015 talk slides

Haripriya, the RM (and Myriad scheduler) run as a Mesos task, and as a part of that task, the Myriad scheduler sends a RegisterFrameworkMessage to the Mesos master, asking Mesos to register a new Myriad framework and communicate with this scheduler process for resource offers and status updates.

Re: Understanding Myriad workflows

Haripriya, You may want to use something like Marathon to start the RM/scheduler and keep it up, so that Marathon can restart it somewhere else if the RM app/process, or even its entire machine fails. You can, of course, start the RM/scheduler manually on a node, but you'll have to manage its HA

Re: Oversubscription in Mesos

Sounds great! The all-revocable vs. all-guaranteed strategy seems like the easiest to implement (just add the Capability to FrameworkInfo), but making Myriad itself smart about high-priority vs. best-effort backfill jobs. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:27 AM, John Omernik wrote: >

Re: Merges to Myriad master branch

Sounds like a code freeze/thaw. What are the conditions for a *major* PR? Even a minor PR could introduce major bugs. I will point out that you have the option of cherry-picking specific new patches on top of the 0.1.0-rc3 tag to create a new rc. This ensures that 0.1.0 only includes changes that

Re: Myriad is 0.1.0

Hooray! Time for champagne! On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Santosh Marella wrote: > Hi All, > > Congratulations on a the first Apache Myriad release..! Kudos to everyone > involved for making this happen. > > As we now have IPMC's approval, there are a few things

Re: Next dev sync hangout will be on 1/6/2016

Sorry, this slipped off my calendar, so I didn't even try to attend. I guess we'll pick up again next week? On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Paul Curtis wrote: > I attempted to join as well it seems that no one was in the > hangout. I gave up after about 15 minutes. >

Re: [Vote] Release apache-myriad-0.2.0-incubating (release candidate 4)

Looks like we got our 3rd binding vote! Let's announce the result and ask Incubator PMC to begin their vote. Darin, let me/Santosh know if you need advice on this part of the process. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Brandon Gulla wrote: > +1 > > built and tested on a

Re: Question on Mesos Reservation

The Myriad framework can register with a Mesos role if you set the 'frameworkRole' config param. Then you can configure Mesos agents to have static reservations, or use the operator endpoints to grant dynamic reservations to that role, or configure a minimum resource quota for that role. See

Re: Myriad hangout tomorrow?

I'm in. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Darin Johnson wrote: > I'm planning on calling in. > > Darin > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Swapnil Daingade < > swapnil.daing...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Was wondering if we have a Myriad hangout tomorrow. >

Re: request for write privileges for Myriad Confluence

Updated. Darin and other committers should have access to add new users with: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/spacepermissions.action?key=MYRIAD On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:13 AM, John Yost wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am working with Darin Johnson on Myriad and

Re: Mesos and Myriad Kerberos Support

We at Mesosphere have a proprietary implementation of Kerberos ticket forwarding using various Mesos hooks/modules, but this is specific to a particular customer use case. We're actively working on a way to pass keytabs/credentials to spark-submit so that it can forward them on to HDFS or other

Re: Myriad 0.1.1 Release

Thanks for heading this up Darin! Here's a link to the JIRA Issues page for Myriad 0.1.1: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYRIAD/fixforversion/12335455/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:version-issues-panel Looking at MYRIAD-194, it seems to be a new feature request, and

Re: Myriad talk link for MesosCon?

Based on the count, that looks like all ~150 submissions. I couldn't find any Myriad-specific, so I guess none of us submitted a Myriad talk to MesosCon. Found this though: Experiences running HPC & Big Data frameworks on Cray Analytics Platform "... Cray .. leverage Apache Mesos and create

Re: 0.2.0 release

+1 on Darin as release manager I'd like to see 0.2 have: - Usable FGS - Dockerized NM (for multitenancy) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > We've talked about a 0.2.0 release slated for mid April at the dev sync. > I'd like to nail down any

Re: Showcase your project at ApacheCON: consider Podling Shark Tank

Sounds great! Mohit and I will sign up. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Swapnil Daingade wrote: > Folks going to ApacheCon might want to consider participating. > > Regards > Swapnil > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Roman Shaposhnik

Re: Observations on Fine Grained Scaling

The Mesos offer allocation cycle should happen once every second by default (--allocation_interval), but if Myriad declines an offer (or doesn't use all the resource in an offer), then those resources will be filtered from being offered to that framework for 5sec (by default). We could reduce that

Re: Myriad Releases

+1 to skipping 0.1.1 if 0.2.0 is coming soon enough I don't think we have any production users eagerly awaiting the 0.1.1 fixes On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Hey Zachary! Thanks, for the upvote. > > Also if you're looking for projects ping me!

Re: Sync tomorrow?

Yes, I'll be there. Sorry for not making it last time. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Is there going to be a sync tomorrow? > > Darin >

Re: Sync tomorrow?

Yeah, I'll be there. Don't have a lot of news though. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Trying to plan my day tomorrow. >

Re: Sync tomorrow?

=0 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Sam Chen <rc...@linkernetworks.com> wrote: > Guys, > What time? By how? > > Regards, > Sam > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 10, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Adam Bordelon <a...@mesosphere.io> wrote: > > > >

[Update] Myriad Dev Sync

uts/_/mesosphere.io/myriad?hceid=YWRhbUBtZXNvc3BoZXJlLmlv.f941u4avg2vf4319366dajm73o> Who: * Adam Bordelon - organizer * dev@myriad.incubator.apache.org * mo...@mesosphere.io * Ken Sipe Attachments: * Myriad Sync Notes - https://docs.google.com/a/mesosphere.io/docu

Re: Website is updated, 0.2.0 is official!

Great work Darin and everyone! I'm really proud of the progress we've made, and I look forward to the continued growth of the Myriad project and community. On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Santosh Marella wrote: > Awesome! Congratulations on the release. > > Special kudos

Re: Do we have a call today? I am not able to get it

I'm stuck in another meeting, but Miguel is waiting in https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/mesosphere.io/myriad On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, yuliya Feldman wrote: > >

Re: Hangout today

Nothing from me either. See you guys next time. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:06 AM, yuliya Feldman < yufeld...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > Sorry - could not attend - was on the road > > From: Darin Johnson > To: Dev > Sent:

Re: [DISCUSS] handling roles in Myriad code

Sorry for the delayed response. If you haven't already, I'd recommend reading https://mesos.apache.org/documentation/latest/roles/ Beyond that, let me try to clear up a few things: ==FrameworkInfo.role 1. Every framework registers with Mesos with a role. If you don't specify one, Mesos defaults

Re: [DISCUSS] handling roles in Myriad code

ure to add both resources and simply using > one resource 4 CPU and 3 GB 31000 and 35001 resulted in TaskFailed. > > Darin > > On Nov 2, 2016 5:54 AM, "Adam Bordelon" <a...@mesosphere.io> wrote: > > > Sorry for the delayed response. If you haven't already, I

Re: Unable to join dev sync

Sorry, I just joined, and you should be able to now as well. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Eom >

Canceling this week's Myriad sync

Many people are off for the holidays. We'll pick up again in two weeks, on 1/11. Cheers, -Adam-

Re: Sync today?

Darin and I met briefly, and decided to cancel these regular syncs going forward. There's been such low attendance that they haven't been very useful lately. We can continue to discuss things over the mailing lists, or schedule adhoc meetings to discuss specific topics. Thanks for participating!

Re: Sync today?

Sorry, my previous meeting ran late. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Tried joining. >

Re: Podling Report Reminder - June 2017

I agree with the recommendation to retire. I'm happy to review if you write it, otherwise I'll just fill in some of our recent stats at the last minute like I usually do. On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > I'm willing to write this, but I think it'll

Re: Is Apache Myriad dead?

I can vet and vote too, but I don't have a lot of time these days to run a release myself. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > Can you name the 3-5 active PMC members who will vet the next release? > > I'm willing to vet next release and contribute

Re: Podling Report Reminder - July 2017

I will be out of town during this period. Can somebody else fill out the podling report in the wiki, with particular attention to the retirement vote/discussion? On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > Dear podling, > > This email was sent by an automated system on

Re: Report

+1, on behalf of myself >From a Mesosphere perspective, we're not committing any resources to it in the foreseeable future. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Darin Johnson wrote: > I'll second that sentiment. > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, yuliya Feldman < >

Re: Myriad development status

Nicolas, Myriad is still alive, but hasn't seen much activity lately. If you don't need YARN, etc. and only need HDFS, you may want to check out the HDFS package for DC/OS (which is built on Apache Mesos). https://docs.mesosphere.com/service-docs/hdfs/ There's also a deprecated HDFS package for

Re: Myriad Sync 11/29

What time (and time zone) is this again? Slipped off my calendar. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:04 AM, mohit soni wrote: > Here you go: > https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/ > bW9oaXRzb25pMTk4OUBnbWFpbC5jb20.ajan3qfvb8c48egfc8rpc92b10 > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017