Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
+1 (sorry for the late reply) Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. * http://opensymphony.com/webwork/cvs.action = RESOURCES TO BE CREATED = * None. (Struts Action SVN module and build systems already exist.) = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) * Don Brown (mrdon
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 With some minor patches: - The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks + The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seek - JamesMitchell + James Mitchell And, as Martin mentioned = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) + * Martin Cooper (martinc at apache.org) -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. +1 -- Wendy Smoak - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
At 8:16 PM -0800 1/24/06, Don Brown wrote: = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. +1 -- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://blog.germuska.com You really can't burn anything out by trying something new, and even if you can burn it out, it can be fixed. Try something new. -- Robert Moog - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
+1 -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist Consulting / Mentoring 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: gmane.comp.jakarta.struts.devel Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
+1 non-binding -- Original message -- From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. *
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
+1 Niall On 1/25/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. * http://opensymphony.com/webwork/cvs.action = RESOURCES TO BE CREATED = * None. (Struts Action SVN module and build systems already exist.) = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/25/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 With some minor patches: - The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks + The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seek Um, no. The English is correct as is. Community is singular, not plural. -- Martin Cooper - JamesMitchell + James Mitchell And, as Martin mentioned = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) + * Martin Cooper (martinc at apache.org) -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
At 9:11 AM -0800 1/25/06, Martin Cooper wrote: On 1/25/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 With some minor patches: - The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks + The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seek Um, no. The English is correct as is. Community is singular, not plural. heh. I wondered about the same thing. I don't think there's a conclusive answer. At least, a little googling seemed to turn up arguments for either way. For example, when referring to a musical group whose name isn't plural, there are different conventions in the US and the UK. Like this current headline from nme.com: Elbow join Lancastrian super-gig In the States, it would probably be Elbow joins... Joe -- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://blog.germuska.com You really can't burn anything out by trying something new, and even if you can burn it out, it can be fixed. Try something new. -- Robert Moog - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
+1 non-binding Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. * http://opensymphony.com/webwork/cvs.action = RESOURCES TO BE CREATED = * None. (Struts Action SVN module and build systems already exist.) = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) * Don Brown (mrdon at apache.org) *
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/25/06, Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 9:11 AM -0800 1/25/06, Martin Cooper wrote: On 1/25/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 With some minor patches: - The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks + The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seek Um, no. The English is correct as is. Community is singular, not plural. heh. I wondered about the same thing. I don't think there's a conclusive answer. At least, a little googling seemed to turn up arguments for either way. Depends on whether you're talking about _correct_ usage versus _common_ usage. I'm talking about the former, and there's no debate. The latter is quite frequently out of sync with the former, especially in the US, but increasingly so in the UK as well, unfortunately. For example, when referring to a musical group whose name isn't plural, there are different conventions in the US and the UK. Like this current headline from nme.com: Elbow join Lancastrian super-gig In the States, it would probably be Elbow joins... Oh my gosh - I seriously hope people aren't learning their English from NME! ;-) But this is more than a little off-topic, so I'll shut up now, even if I am a stickler for this kind of thing. -- Martin Cooper Joe -- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://blog.germuska.com You really can't burn anything out by trying something new, and even if you can burn it out, it can be fixed. Try something new. -- Robert Moog
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework +1 Hubert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. * http://opensymphony.com/webwork/cvs.action = RESOURCES TO BE CREATED = * None. (Struts Action SVN module and build systems already exist.) = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) * Don Brown (mrdon at apache.org) * Rene Gielen * Rainer Hermanns *
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
Unsurprisingly, my +1 Don Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net. * http://opensymphony.com/webwork/cvs.action = RESOURCES TO BE CREATED = * None. (Struts Action SVN module and build systems already exist.) = INITIAL COMMITTERS = * Jason Carreira (jcarreira at apache.org) * Don Brown (mrdon
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
Hi folks, I just joined your dev group and noticed the voting here in. I have looked at most of the AJAX frameworks and I have to through my 2 cents in here. Webwork is using DWR flavor of AJAX. In my experience this introduces more config settings and new syntax requirements on the client and server side. I have been writing AJAX applications since 2000 and the framework I came up with is absolutely transparent. No config files, No new syntax on server or client, full support for java.util.*. It doesn't have to get more complicated to be a better idea. If you are curious how I have done this bounce over to http://www.xoscript.org and read getting started (short read) or download the video tutorial that talks you through the point and click. Honestly When I wrote this I just wanted to write Java, JavaScript and html, not learn yet another framework. End of rant, Thanks for listening. Bryan LaPlante - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal Unsurprisingly, my +1 Don Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried
Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal
On 1/24/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 Being a dope, I only just noticed that, although I'm listed as a mentor, I didn't list myself as an initial committer. I'd like to add my name before we send this proposal to the incubator. -- Martin Cooper = PROJECT PROPOSAL = WebWork 2: A Java web application development framework A proposal to merge the WebWork 2 community and codebase into the Apache Struts project. The new codebase is slated to become Struts Action 2. = RATIONALE = The members of the Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project would like to work together on a next-generation web application framework utilizing an action/request architecture. WebWork was initially created by Rickard Oberg to improve on the ideas and functionality of the Jakarta Struts framework. (Now known as the Apache Struts Action framework.) Since then, the WebWork community has continued to extend and refine the framework's capabilities through a long series of releases, the latest of which, 2.2, brings advanced Ajax, templating, and Java 5 capabilities to its solid WebWork 2 foundation. While, to date, the WebWork and Struts Action codebases have overlapped, recent movements to bring consolidation to the web framework landscape have inspired both communities to work together. Apache Struts has recently reorganized our codebase into multiple subprojects, two of which, Shale and Action, represent two separate but equal web frameworks. Struts Shale serves the nascent JSF community, while Struts Action serves the established JSP community. The WebWork 2 code would be brought into the Action subproject as the 2.x branch. The WebWork 2 developers are excited by the prospect of joining the ASF and collaborating to solve our common need for a solid, action-based MVC2 web framework. = CRITERIA = == Meritocracy: == The WebWork 2 community is a healthy meritocracy with multiple developers who do not share a common employer. The creator of the project has already passed the torch to another generation of developers, who earn commit privileges through their individual contributions. == Community: == The WebWork 2 community has a strong following with active mailing lists and forums. https://webwork.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectMailingListList == WebWork Developers: == The WebWork developers includes individuals who have been with the project for a very long time and individuals who have only recently earned commit privileges. Contributions come steadily from all segments of the community, developer and user alike. Despite being used by many well-known corporations, WebWork 2 has not received any direct corporate contributions. http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/members.action == Alignment: == WebWork and Struts Action are both action-oriented web frameworks, and the basic underlying models of the two are similar in many respects. Thus both projects strive to serve largely the same community of Java web application developers. == License == WebWork 2 is under the OpenSymphony 1.1 license, a modified Apache Software License 1.0. * 2001-2006 http://www.opensymphony.com/webwork/license.action = AVOIDING THE WARNING SIGNS = == Orphaned products: == WebWork 2 will form the base of Struts Action 2.0 and is under heavy active development. == Inexperience with open source: == The WebWork 2 project has been operating as a successful open source project for over four years. == Homogenous developers: == The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies who are geographically dispersed. The developers are experienced with working in a distributed environment, and with resolving differences outside the scope of a common employer. == Reliance on salaried developers: == WebWork does not rely on contributions from salaried developers, nor have commit privileges been extended based on an individual's employer. == No ties to other ASF products: == The heritage of WebWork yields many close ties with the Apache Struts community. Many users have used one framework, then the other, and have different projects in the field that use either. The WebWork 2 codebase also uses several Jakarta Commons libraries. == A fascination with the ASF brand: == After several years of independence, the WebWork developers are ready to work within a larger community and expose the WebWork technology to a wider audience. The WebWork community is not seeking the ASF brand but seeks to collaborate with like minds in the Apache Struts projects. Both sets of developers are trying to solve the same problems in the same way, and we feel that we can create a stronger community and codebase together, than we can working independantly. = INITIAL SOURCE = The initial source comes from the WebWork 2 project, which uses CVS hosted at java.net.
