Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-23 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/23/2010 06:51 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: IMO, the real problem is not backports vs. upgrading to fix bugs, it's bugs not getting fixed in Fedora, for a variety of reasons. Therefore, I consider trying to apply any such simple policy to be impossible and naive. Agreeable logical

File CPAN-Checksums-2.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2010-11-23 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CPAN-Checksums: 586b4a829c5906ab4223616cab8595d9 CPAN-Checksums-2.07.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-CPAN-Checksums] New upstream release, v2.07

2010-11-23 Thread Petr Sabata
commit aef9502287e05b1bdb0bf988e34480c1f2dd5010 Author: Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com Date: Tue Nov 23 09:32:20 2010 +0100 New upstream release, v2.07 .gitignore |1 + perl-CPAN-Checksums.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:32:26 +0100 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2010/11/12 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: Any other exciting work in progress that might land in F15 that people are actively working on?

Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick MONNERAT
While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: Stopping slapd: [ OK ] Checking configuration files for slapd: [FAILED] bdb(dc=linuxdev,dc=datasphere,dc=ch): Build signature doesn't match environment bdb_db_open: database

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:11:13 +0100 Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: [...] Have you reported it as a bug against the openldap package? Have you tried yum downgrade to the previous version? Michal -- devel

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick MONNERAT
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 11:23 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:11:13 +0100 Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: [...] Have you reported it as a bug against the openldap package? Not yet:

usbip: how to build or find the driver

2010-11-23 Thread Dario Lesca
hi, I want share a usb key via IP and I have found this project: http://usbip.sourceforge.net/ Someone can help me to find the usbip_common_mod.ko, vhci-hcd.ko and usbip.ko module for fedora 14? Into Readme file of project, for build the driver i see this: For newer kernels ( =2.6.28

rawhide report: 20101123 changes

2010-11-23 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 23 08:15:04 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit)

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Howarth
On 23/11/10 10:11, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: Stopping slapd: [ OK ] Checking configuration files for slapd: [FAILED] bdb(dc=linuxdev,dc=datasphere,dc=ch): Build signature doesn't match

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: On 23/11/10 10:11, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: Stopping slapd: [ OK ] Checking configuration files for slapd: [FAILED]

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Panu Matilainen wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: On 23/11/10 10:11, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: While applying today's updates on a machine running a slapd server, the following error occurred: Stopping slapd: [ OK ] Checking configuration files for

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-23 Thread Henrik Nordström
mån 2010-11-22 klockan 18:51 +0100 skrev Björn Persson: Henrik Nordström wrote: * Slight adjustment of karma to provide choices Works for me, Problem still present and New problems seen * Works for me is a +1, and also adds the refereced bug as fixed by the update if not already in the

[Bug 656317] New: libwx_gtk2u_stc-2.8.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

2010-11-23 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: libwx_gtk2u_stc-2.8.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=656317 Summary:

The sale of Novell

2010-11-23 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, As you may be aware, Novell recently sold itself/merged/whatever to another company with the transfer of 882 patents to MS. No idea what this will mean with the SCO legal case, but hey. My question regards Mono now. With the sale of Novell and MS gaining a pile of patents, will this affect

Re: The sale of Novell

2010-11-23 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Paul F. Johnson p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk wrote: Hi, As you may be aware, Novell recently sold itself/merged/whatever to another company with the transfer of 882 patents to MS. No idea what this will mean with the SCO legal case, but hey. My question

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick MONNERAT
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 14:55 +0100, Jan Vcelak wrote: Patric, thank you for reporting this. And sorry for the difficulties. You're welcome. And never mind for the difficulties: I understand your trouble and I wouldn't be in such a sh... myself ! I succeeded in restoring the LDAP usability by

Re: Rawhide kernel image no longer readable

2010-11-23 Thread Jon Masters
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 22:45 -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 04:41:47AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: The thing is, we really need to be able to boot a kernel in qemu as non-root, and carrying around a separately compiled or packaged kernel is

Appeal to finish the change in maintainer for the openjpeg package.

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Hough
Someone with that right permissions need to change who maintains the openjpeg package in Fedora. Callum Lerwick has been AWOL for a long time now and has even said that he is not interested in long term maintenance of packages in a post over a year ago.

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Alex Hudson
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 17:09 +0100, Jan Vcelak wrote: This is the problem: The database migration could take a really long time. I have testing data with 56 entries (nodes) - exporting (slapcat) is quite fast, but importing (slapadd) takes around 10 seconds. Imagine you have a large

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and maintainers of individual packages would indicate that they want to convert scripts themselves. How can I get information about all packages that provides init

Re: usbip: how to build or find the driver

2010-11-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 23/11/2010 alle 15.55 +0100, Henrik Nordström ha scritto: Fedora do not normally include staging kernel drivers, but you can find them on rpmfusion. I have not looked into if the specific drivers you are looking for is there however. Regards Henrik Thanks Henrik, bui

Re: Appeal to finish the change in maintainer for the openjpeg package.

2010-11-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AH == Adam Hough adam.ho...@gmail.com writes: AH Someone with that right permissions need to change who maintains the AH openjpeg package in Fedora. It has two comaintainers, so I don't really see what the issue is. I went ahead and gave those comaintainers approveacls permission on the Fedora

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MP == Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes: MP How can I get information about all packages that provides init MP scripts? repoquery --whatprovides '/etc/init.d/*' - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 17:09 +0100, Jan Vcelak wrote: Am I allowed to write some additional output in %pre/%post scriptlets? And shall I use stdout or stderr? I haven't found it in guidelines. I was always told no output allowed, which is sad. Sure, it might not be seen in all cases. What

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2010/11/23 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and maintainers of individual packages would indicate that they want to convert scripts themselves. How can I

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:18:44 +0100 Michał Piotrowski wrote: How can I get information about all packages that provides init scripts? When I do rpm -qf /etc/init.d/* I get only information about already installed packages. Any magic switch to get informations about all packages from rpm

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/10 11:32 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:33:35PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On 11/22/10 1:50 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:02:49PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: It was my understanding of reading the

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 17:18:44 +0100, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and maintainers of individual packages would indicate that they want to

[perlbrew/el6/master] (5 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el6

2010-11-23 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 89ff2c1... initial import (*) 8d97dfc... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*) 528eadb... dist-git conversion (*) a8068ee... update to 0.13 (*) 59f0696... Merge branch 'master' into el6 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora

[perlbrew/el6/master: 5/5] Merge branch 'master' into el6

2010-11-23 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 59f06963e29f1e90761e07ee1a9925673091ab74 Merge: 37bf1d5 a8068ee Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Tue Nov 23 17:26:06 2010 +0100 Merge branch 'master' into el6 .gitignore|1 + perlbrew.spec | 15 +++ sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 13

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/23/10 5:55 AM, Jan Vcelak wrote: Hi! Currently, the upgrade process in openldap looks like this: * during db4 package upgrade run db_upgrade (%triggerin and %triggerun) * if minor version of openldap changes (e.g. 2.3 - 2.4), export the database, delete it and import it back (which

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jan Vcelak jvce...@redhat.com said: Am I allowed to write some additional output in %pre/%post scriptlets? And shall I use stdout or stderr? I haven't found it in guidelines. No, because there's no telling where it will go. This is the problem: The database migration could

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/20/2010 11:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion action should be coordinated. Comments, thoughts? Kind regards, Michal I created this a while back so just take your pick from there fill it with a link to the new file

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/23 Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu: MP == Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes: MP How can I get information about all packages that provides init MP scripts? repoquery --whatprovides '/etc/init.d/*' It seems to me that too little packages was returned  - J --

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/23 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: On 11/20/2010 11:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion action should be coordinated. Comments, thoughts? Kind regards, Michal I created this a while back so just take

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/23/2010 05:30 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 11/23/10 5:55 AM, Jan Vcelak wrote: Hi! Currently, the upgrade process in openldap looks like this: * during db4 package upgrade run db_upgrade (%triggerin and %triggerun) * if minor version of openldap changes (e.g. 2.3 - 2.4), export the

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:44 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:35:54AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * Can we finally remove hal? (xfce4.8 shouldn't need it anymore with any luck). Not without a pile of X changes, which themselves are blocking

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:21 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Why was this update made on F14 in the first place? IMO, this is the wrong question. The better questions would be - How could it happen, this package made it into updates, dispite all this QA bureaucracy is in place? Remember,

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:44 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:35:54AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * Can we finally remove hal? (xfce4.8 shouldn't need it anymore with any luck).

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 10:21 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: So taking for example the much much discussed KDE rebases. I think that doing a KDE rebase for Fedora #+1 is a no brainer, for Fedora # is fine as long as it is properly tested and for Fedora #-1 KDE should NOT be

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread philippe makowski
2010/11/23 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and maintainers of individual packages would indicate that they want to convert scripts themselves. I'll try to do

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: It is totally annoying and time consuming to hit fixed bugs again, just because the update has not been pushed from testing to stable. I cannot really imagine that I am the only one experiencing this ever and ever again. E.g. just today when I wanted to debug f-e-k on the F14

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 01:29:45PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Here's the latest list of ideas culled from this thread. Note: these are NOT my ideas, I am just gathering them up so fesco can discuss them. Feel free to add more concrete ideas, or let me know if I missed one you had posted.

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:32 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Note that Fedora #-2 does not fit into this view for things at all, Fedora #-2 is meant to allow people to skip a Fedora release. But in practice I think this works out badly, because a relatively new Fedora release like Fedora 14

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 23 listopada 2010 18:35 użytkownik philippe makowski makowski.fed...@gmail.com napisał: 2010/11/23 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and maintainers of

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Fedyk wrote: So feel free to push directly to stable as often as you want, but once you introduce one regression, you have to satisfy 10 karma on every package you update. The second time, you have to satisfy 20 karma on every package you update and so on. At that point you can just ban

[perl-Mozilla-LDAP] forgot to add -DUSE_SSL -DPRLDAP for the openldap case

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Allen Megginson
commit 00a0544321e44ecc180451ab680e896bd6550231 Author: Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com Date: Tue Nov 23 10:47:50 2010 -0700 forgot to add -DUSE_SSL -DPRLDAP for the openldap case Makefile.PL.rpm|2 +- perl-Mozilla-LDAP.spec |5 - 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2

[perl-Mozilla-LDAP/f14/master] forgot to add -DUSE_SSL -DPRLDAP for the openldap case

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Allen Megginson
Summary of changes: 00a0544... forgot to add -DUSE_SSL -DPRLDAP for the openldap case (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Right, and the big point there should be that a bug which can corrupt mail folders should be fixed IMMEDIATELY, i.e. with a direct stable push! ANY testing requirement there is a failure. How about testing that

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Cronenworth wrote: So you'll double, triple, ultra swear that this[1] will never happen again? [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/002572.html That wasn't a data corruption issue in the first place. It was a low-severity security fix, and the fix was

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Fedyk wrote: Install package from updates-testing, then +1 to karma after it works for you with your tests and normal workload. The average user won't even KNOW there's an update available in updates- testing before it's too late (i.e. all his/her data is gone, (s)he asks on forums or IRC

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: (And yeah, if we allow +1 autopush, we should definitely expect -1 is sufficient to unpush.  Maybe bodhi should restrict the combination of those two settings, rather than either one alone?) Not as long people give -1 for random

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: Afaik there is no need for a maintainer to set different acceptance thresholds for his updates. At least nobody ever explained to me why this would be helpful. * Upgrade paths! I DON'T want my foo-1.2.3-4.fc13 update to go out before my foo-1.2.3-4.fc14 update, even if it

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Lane wrote: (And yeah, if we allow +1 autopush, we should definitely expect -1 is sufficient to unpush. Maybe bodhi should restrict the combination of those two settings, rather than either one alone?) Well, we've started to use +1/-999 for some KDE updates. :-) Kevin Kofler --

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/23/2010 05:30 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 11/23/10 5:55 AM, Jan Vcelak wrote: Hi! Currently, the upgrade process in openldap looks like this: * during db4 package upgrade run db_upgrade (%triggerin and %triggerun) * if minor version of

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Cronenworth wrote: -Installs PackageKit plugin to give karma through the gnome-packagekit GUI. (Nothing exists yet, but I'm gonna get started on one soon) What about KPackageKit? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 07:06:33PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Till Maas wrote: Afaik there is no need for a maintainer to set different acceptance thresholds for his updates. At least nobody ever explained to me why this would be helpful. * Upgrade paths! I DON'T want my foo-1.2.3-4.fc13

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: We don't control RH bugzilla so changing bugzilla to be able to use fas to login would be problematic. The right solution would really be to have a separate Fedora Bugzilla tied in to Fedora infrastructure, with bug states which make sense for Fedora, not RHEL etc.

Re: F14: after last updates, getting Eclipse out of memory errors

2010-11-23 Thread Marius Andreiana
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.comwrote: On 10:05:21 am Sunday, November 21, 2010 Marius Andreiana wrote: Hi, After getting latest updates (glibc and eclise), I started getting reproducible Eclipse out of memory errors (happens during AppEngine

Re: update for openldap available

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick MONNERAT
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:51 +0100, Jan Vcelak wrote: Just submitted to updates-testing. Please, test. 656257 - Upgrade from 2.4.22-7 to 2.4.23-3 breaks slapd 655899 - outdated list of overlays in slapd.conf 652822 - ldapsearch -Z hangs server if starttls fails Jan Many thanks Jan, it

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: It might not to work for proprietary drivers, but that's those drivers' problem. KDE basically requires XRandR since at least 4.0. this is a fairly new thing, AIUI: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/127103.html I

[perl-Apache-DBI/el6/master] update to 1.09

2010-11-23 Thread Remi Collet
commit 9ca9b1658ed1c65de7c6297a24e1a17132aec3e3 Author: remi fed...@famillecollet.com Date: Tue Nov 23 20:02:27 2010 +0100 update to 1.09 .gitignore |3 ++- perl-Apache-DBI.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 06:23:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Huh? KDE trunk (4.6) already uses XRandR backlight setting in PowerDevil: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/powerdevil/daemon/backends/upower/xrandrbrightness.cpp?revision=1194096view=markup and it appears to work

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-24)

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. = Followups = #topic Updates policy #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 06:23:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Huh? KDE trunk (4.6) already uses XRandR backlight setting in PowerDevil: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/powerdevil/daemon/backends/upower/xrandrbrightness.cpp?revision=1194096view=markup

[HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/var-run-tmpfs My current tests indicate that we will not run into

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/23/10 12:16 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:39:02AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: They said that they install a Fedora for testing purposes when it first comes out and enjoy the rapid pace of bugfixes as they test the

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Doug Ledford
On 11/23/2010 03:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature:

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Howarth
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:48:30 +0100 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: - In some cases daemons might want to create more than one file/dir below /var/run which are supposed to be labelled differently. In this case the daemon can either be modified to fix its labels up itself, or a

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 21:19, Paul Howarth (p...@city-fan.org) wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:48:30 +0100 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: - In some cases daemons might want to create more than one file/dir below /var/run which are supposed to be labelled differently. In this

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/2010 04:26 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 23.11.10 21:19, Paul Howarth (p...@city-fan.org) wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:48:30 +0100 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: - In some cases daemons might want to create

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
On 11/23/2010 12:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature:

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:32:00PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also note that by now it's somewhat standard that code that needs to be run as part of early boot creates a subdir in /dev, such as /dev/.udev or /dev/.systemd. Not super-pretty, but I guess it's too late to complain about

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 22:44, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:32:00PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also note that by now it's somewhat standard that code that needs to be run as part of early boot creates a subdir in /dev, such as /dev/.udev or

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:48:30PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature: ░

[389-devel] Please Review: (656515) Allow Name and Optional UID syntax for grouping attributes

2010-11-23 Thread Nathan Kinder
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=656515 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=462466action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: Appeal to finish the change in maintainer for the openjpeg package.

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Hough
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.eduwrote: AH == Adam Hough adam.ho...@gmail.com writes: AH Someone with that right permissions need to change who maintains the AH openjpeg package in Fedora. It has two comaintainers, so I don't really see what the issue

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 13:41, Nicholas Miell (nmi...@gmail.com) wrote: On 11/23/2010 12:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 23:02, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: The release notes section contains this: | /var/run and /var/lock are now mounted from tmpfs, and hence emptied on | reboot. Applications must ensure to recreate their own files/dirs on | startup, and cannot rely that doing this

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
On 11/23/2010 02:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 23.11.10 13:41, Nicholas Miell (nmi...@gmail.com) wrote: On 11/23/2010 12:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15.

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On 10/5/10 3:27 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and Fedora 15. Items built with this could have undefined behavior, which could lead to data corruption.

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 03:45:26PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: gcc - update in -candidate, ping jakub Just remove gcc from your list. gcc is bootstrapped, so the installed gcc only builds first stage, everything else is built by (one of the) newly built compiler(s). So, gcc in f14 surely

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 11/23/2010 03:02 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:48:30PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature:

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-24)

2010-11-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. I'm not going to be able to make this, I'll be on the road for Thanksgiving. - ajax --

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 18:44, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: W dniu 23 listopada 2010 18:35 użytkownik philippe makowski makowski.fed...@gmail.com napisał: 2010/11/23 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread John Reiser
On 11/23/2010 03:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Here is a list of the current known potentially bad builds and what action could be or has been taken: Please alphabetize such a list, always! _PLEASE_? An alphabetized list is several times more effective at communication because advanced readers

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion action should be coordinated. Comments, thoughts? I would certainly welcome any work in this direction! I think it would make sense to use Johann's

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-24)

2010-11-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said: On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. I'm not going to be able to make this, I'll be

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) said: MP How can I get information about all packages that provides init MP scripts? repoquery --whatprovides '/etc/init.d/*' It seems to me that too little packages was returned Add '/etc/rc.d/init.d/*' too; while they both resolve to the same

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:54:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: I think the fact that we get less disks accesses (just think noatime and stuff for the files dropped there) is more interesting than using the absolute minimal amount of memory. Less disk access at startup, or in general

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Ben Boeckel
Jan Vcelak jvce...@redhat.com wrote: This is the problem: The database migration could take a really long time. I have testing data with 56 entries (nodes) - exporting (slapcat) is quite fast, but importing (slapadd) takes around 10 seconds. Hmm. I've seen selinux-policy-targeted take

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/23/2010 07:36 PM, Jan Vcelak wrote: On Tuesday 23 November 2010 19:13:09, Panu Matilainen wrote: Another related thing is that Berkeley DB which openldap uses is notoriously picky about getting updated. I'm fairly certain openldap does not update their bundled BDB version to prevent

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Nicholas Miell wrote: The spec page says it'll be better, but is very vague as to why. Basically, I'm looking for a Doing this will keep $X kilobytes permanently pinned in RAM (in the form of dentry and inode structs) and $Y bytes in RAM or swap (in the form of file data

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/23/10 5:04 PM, John Reiser wrote: Please alphabetize such a list, always! _PLEASE_? An alphabetized list is several times more effective at communication because advanced readers can process it more quickly by eye than a list that is in random order. Most mail user agent (MUA) software

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:39, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: They said that they install a Fedora for testing purposes when it first comes out and enjoy the rapid pace of bugfixes as they test the software in their environment.  Then,

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: That way most distros would only have to install one getty implementation, and can use it for both serial consoles and VCs. Yes please. Bonus points for anaconda configuring a working agetty login if the install console was serial. That is, run

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/24/2010 12:45 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 10/5/10 3:27 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: snip Here is a list of the current known potentially bad builds and what action could be or has been taken: wildmidi - my rebuild can be tagged tecnoballz - my build can be tagged These 2 are mine

File PPIx-EditorTools-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2010-11-23 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PPIx-EditorTools: a56672022c0e382f168ccce08b2a3e26 PPIx-EditorTools-0.11.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-PPIx-EditorTools] New upstream release, v0.11

2010-11-23 Thread Petr Sabata
commit ea52ef008086f3dba7161044c44882ef8a0e725d Author: Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com Date: Tue Nov 23 09:03:47 2010 +0100 New upstream release, v0.11 .gitignore |1 + perl-PPIx-EditorTools.spec | 13 ++--- sources|2 +- 3 files

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