Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Jan Synacek
On 05/17/2013 07:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: This is a weird bug I've seen 3 or 4 times since upgrading to F19, and am having trouble pinning down. Occasionally, after my session has been up for some time, runs of 'su' start behaving oddly. After I enter the root password, it takes a long

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 08:14 +0200, Jan Synacek wrote: On 05/17/2013 07:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: This is a weird bug I've seen 3 or 4 times since upgrading to F19, and am having trouble pinning down. Occasionally, after my session has been up for some time, runs of 'su' start

[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-05-17 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD. As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 13:44, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 20:41 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 05/16/2013 08:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: We *could* drop all the assorted local storage tools

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 16:17, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: RequiredBy= WantedBy=dmraid-activation.service I'm not using dmraid, or md raid, or any kind of raid at the moment. I

Re: FPC elections

2013-05-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16.5.2013 18:40, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson napsal(a): On 05/16/2013 03:09 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: I think that JBG built on my proposal. I am personally ambivalent to disabling FPC. I can imagine that some process as proposed by JBG would work, but I am afraid it is too big leap to be

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej Vašík ova...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17 09:21:51 2013 +0200 require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697) I don't think having glibc-devel

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Ondrej Vasik
- Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej Vašík ova...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17 09:21:51 2013 +0200 require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com - Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej Vašík ova...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17 09:21:51 2013 +0200 require glibc-devel to prevent

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Ondrej Vasik
- Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com - Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej Vašík ova...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17 09:21:51 2013 +0200

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:25:43AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: - Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com - Original Message - 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej

Heads-up: changes to soname dependency generation in rawhide

2013-05-17 Thread Panu Matilainen
Hey all, Starting today, as soon as rpm-4.11.0.1-5 hits the rawhide buildroots, rpmbuild will filter out non-library ELF soname dependencies by default. The soname dependencies are filtered by name: only soname dependencies containing .so and starting with lib or ld will be recorded into

Re: F18 systemd update broke varnish service?

2013-05-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/16/2013 11:23 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: I noticed that varnish service doesn't work after systemd update to version 201-2 Please file a bug. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Petr Hracek
Hi folks, in order that BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963113) libpng library was bumped. koji build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5391511 $ rpm -qpl /var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/result/libpng-devel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:25:43AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790 Author: Ondřej Vašík ova...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 06:22:09AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:25:43AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit ed5396d91e0032fa7cbfd6cb0bde3d7850aba790

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 22:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: This is a weird bug I've seen 3 or 4 times since upgrading to F19, and am having trouble pinning down. Occasionally, after my session has been up for some time, runs of 'su' start behaving oddly. After I enter the root password, it

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 06:22:09AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:25:43AM -0400, Ondrej Vasik wrote: 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@fedoraproject.org commit

Re: Question about what to do if mantainer is absent

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 15 mai 2013 à 11:40 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 12:21 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:03:41 -0500 Michael Catanzaro mike.catanz...@gmail.com wrote: Well the open model has already been tried and proven in openSUSE, and they're

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:25:31AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Well, I don't think glibc info doc has only developer-targetted info - that's the issue - there are more things useful to regular experienced users (like regexps info, locales info). In that case, glibc maintainers need

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Kalev Lember
2013-05-17 12:20, Petr Hracek skrev: Hi folks, in order that BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963113) libpng library was bumped. [snip] Please rebuild your packages with new libpng library Here is the list: [snip, 306 packages] Hi Petr, Very cool to get updated libpng!

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Ondrej Vasik
Am 17.05.2013 12:35, schrieb Ondrej Vasik: In that case, glibc maintainers need to re-consider their claim that it is only material for developers put it in glibc-common or a glibc-docs package instead of the -devel package That's what the glibc maintainers proposed as longer term

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Kalev Lember
2013-05-17 13:17, Kalev Lember skrev: The issue is that once this is in, all the 306 packages above will have broken dependencies. And it's not just simple rebuilds that are required; we'd need _ordered_ rebuilds in dependency order: build deps that require the old libpng can't be installed in

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Petr Hracek
Hello, I have just created Review request in BZ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964161 libpng was untagged by koji. Thank you in advance for help. Best regards / S pozdravem Petr Hracek On 05/17/2013 01:38 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: 2013-05-17 13:17, Kalev Lember skrev: The issue

rawhide report: 20130517 changes

2013-05-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri May 17 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [OpenImageIO] OpenImageIO-1.1.3-7.fc20.i686 requires libhdf5_cpp.so.7 OpenImageIO-1.1.3-7.fc20.i686 requires libhdf5.so.7

C++ library design (was: Re: Expanding the list of Hardened Packages)

2013-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/17/2013 07:17 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: While we're dredging up old threads ;) . On Fri, 10 May, 2013 at 12:29:16 GMT, Florian Weimer wrote: There is some fairly horrible stuff, like std::copy: http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/algorithm/copy You can pass a std::vectorT::iterator (say, the

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
/95dzgklajrgaz4n/bootchart-20130517-0756.svg BTW: Is it correct that /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home can't be found with systemd-bootchart? Hmm, for some reason the whole thing is truncated... There are intervals of 2s where the whole machine doesn't do anything apparently... Can you rerun

F-19 Branched report: 20130517 changes

2013-05-17 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri May 17 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [byzanz] byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit) [deltacloud-core] deltacloud-core-rhevm-1.1.3-1.fc19.noarch requires

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 17.05.13 09:05, Hans de Goede (hdego...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 13:44, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 20:41 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 05/16/2013 08:17 PM, Bill

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Heiko Adams
that?) Lennart https://www.dropbox.com/s/95dzgklajrgaz4n/bootchart-20130517-0756.svg BTW: Is it correct that /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home can't be found with systemd-bootchart? Hmm, for some reason the whole thing is truncated... There are intervals of 2s where the whole machine doesn't do

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
to have a look at the bootchart actually. (Heiko? Can you upload that?) Lennart https://www.dropbox.com/s/95dzgklajrgaz4n/bootchart-20130517-0756.svg BTW: Is it correct that /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home can't be found with systemd-bootchart? Hmm, for some reason the whole thing

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 22:29:53 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: So I'm kinda stuck, really. Has anyone else seen this? Any bright ideas for debugging it? Thanks! I might have. I just suspected disk stalls. I haven't worried about it too much, because that was going to be

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 06:35:57 -0400, Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com wrote: Require glibc-devel in coreutils means + ~1M to default minimal installation size. Not much, but not good practice, I agree. I may go with coreutils-infodoc (or something like that) subpackage (keeping just basic

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd installs we don't even get dmraid installed... I know there's always a goal of shrinking the base install, but I'm afraid we're going overboard. One nice thing

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:20:03 +0200, Petr Hracek phra...@redhat.com wrote: Hi folks, in order that BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963113) libpng library was bumped. Was this just in rawhide? Every package you listed looked like it was in f18. If you ran the list against

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:43:36AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: By cutting out all the hardware support except for what is in the system at install, it becomes more difficult (like Windows) to deal with any problems, hardware upgrades, etc. down the road. Agreed, but I think

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 13:17:17 +0200, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Introduce a libpng15 compat package with the old soname, to satisfy deps while the packages are being rebuilt. You'd need something similar to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845110

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:43:36 -0500, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: By cutting out all the hardware support except for what is in the system at install, it becomes more difficult (like Windows) to deal with any problems, hardware upgrades, etc. down the road. Note that the change

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: So I'm kinda stuck, really. Has anyone else seen this? Any bright ideas for debugging it? Thanks! This sounds familiar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723287#c5. It is probably a different problem, since

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds familiar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723287#c5. It is probably a different problem, since you say it doesn't happen right away. Still, if you boot with enforcing=0, does that help? My reply

Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain a single subdirectory are skipped. (The eventual goal is to run two such directory tress through diff

Re: hdf5 update to 1.8.11 in rawhide

2013-05-17 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, got it done. I had to update the arm patch to get it to build. Thanks, Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:37:13PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain a single subdirectory are skipped.

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread David Lehman
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 09:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 16:17, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: RequiredBy= WantedBy=dmraid-activation.service I'm not

Re: Expanding the list of Hardened Packages

2013-05-17 Thread devzero2000
Perhaps is not working because most of the new policy are deployed in enforcing mode and not in permissive ? But permissive not was born exactly for this ? Best 2013/4/23, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Adam Williamson wrote: SELinux keeps having bugs *because* they progressively build

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.05.2013 12:35, schrieb Ondrej Vasik: In that case, glibc maintainers need to re-consider their claim that it is only material for developers put it in glibc-common or a glibc-docs package instead of the -devel package That's what the glibc maintainers proposed as longer term

Re: [coreutils] require glibc-devel to prevent broken links in coreutils info manual (#959697)

2013-05-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.05.2013 10:07, schrieb Nicolas Chauvet: 2013/5/17 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com mailto:ova...@redhat.com My understanding is that libc*.info should be moved to the main glibc instead as most info file belong to the main package. One that doesn't want to install the documentation can

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 17.05.13 10:18, David Lehman (dleh...@redhat.com) wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 09:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 16:17, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/17/2013 08:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain a single subdirectory are skipped. (The eventual goal is

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/17/2013 09:59 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 05/17/2013 08:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain a single

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/17/2013 10:01 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 05/17/2013 09:59 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 05/17/2013 08:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread David Lehman
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 17.05.13 10:18, David Lehman (dleh...@redhat.com) wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 09:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 16:17, Bill Nottingham

[perl-Moose/f19] update to 2.0802

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: cacf630... update to 2.0802 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Moose/f18] update to 2.0802

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: cacf630... update to 2.0802 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread poma
On 16.05.2013 21:29, Heiko Adams wrote: My top 6 of extreme long starting services are: $ systemd-analyze blame 27.652s NetworkManager.service 27.072s chronyd.service 27.015s avahi-daemon.service 26.899s tuned.service 26.647s restorecond.service

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread poma
On 16.05.2013 23:01, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 14:57 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: … This doesn't happen when booting from Live media, so something's changed since then it seems. The only two things I can think of are the groupinstall virtualization, and creating a VM with a

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 08:34 -0600, Jerry James wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds familiar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723287#c5. It is probably a different problem, since you say it doesn't happen right away.

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread poma
On 17.05.2013 14:45, Lennart Poettering wrote: There is something really fishy... … Yeah! The week *end* has just begun! :) poma -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 10:18 -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 09:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 16:17, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 08:58 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 13:17:17 +0200, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Introduce a libpng15 compat package with the old soname, to satisfy deps while the packages are being rebuilt. You'd need something

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 16:37 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain a single subdirectory are skipped. (The

Re: Unpacking SRPMs

2013-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/17/2013 09:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 16:37 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I'd like some scriptable way to unpack SRPMs up and including to the %prep stage. Ideally, the results would end up in a directory I specify, and intermediate directories which only contain

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 05/16/2013 02:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on every boot: 4.051s systemd-fsck-root.service 515ms

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 05/15/2013 05:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/15/2013 04:39 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I was planning to upgrade to F19 soon, and I kind-of care about the data on that system (I have backup, but corruption would not be welcome, just for the lost time reason). Do people recommend

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 17, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/16/2013 02:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on every boot: 4.051s

anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda brought home how messy this design is at present. Quick refresher for anyone who hasn't looked at it much yet: in F19, anaconda can create user accounts, and 'firstboot' has been replaced with two alternative tools,

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: but still, it seems to be worth considering. Alternatively, we could make i-s behave a lot more like g-i-s: it could dump its 'root password' and 'date/time' spokes, and only run at all, and only to allow user creation, if you didn't

Fwd: Adding new group to comps-f19.xml.in

2013-05-17 Thread Ravindra Kumar
Including mailing list for wider/more inputs. I'm thinking of another approach. How about adding open-vm-tools to standard group and open-vm-tools-desktop to base-x group? Then, I will not have to modify so many installation environments (patches attached). In future, we could make these

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:44 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: but still, it seems to be worth considering. Alternatively, we could make i-s behave a lot more like g-i-s: it could dump its 'root password' and 'date/time' spokes, and

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/17/13 3:38 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 05/16/2013 02:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on every boot: 4.051s systemd-fsck-root.service 515ms

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/17/13 3:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/16/2013 02:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 17, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On 5/17/13 3:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Seems some extra complexity is needed anyway since the way to deal with file system problems differs with the various fs's. XFS and Btrfs fsck's are noops. XFS needs xfs_repair run,

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 17, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on every boot: 4.051s systemd-fsck-root.service 515ms

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/17/13 5:29 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On 5/17/13 3:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Seems some extra complexity is needed anyway since the way to deal with file system problems differs with the various fs's. XFS and Btrfs

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/17/13 5:39 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 12:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: There have been no crashes, so ext4 doesn't need fsck on every boot: 4.051s

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 16 mai 2013 à 14:44 -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz a écrit : From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com How do I determine what component to file a bug against? I guess I have to find the package that caused these .service files to be installed? Yes. 'rpm -qf

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On May 17, 2013 6:43 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd installs we don't even get dmraid installed... I know there's always a goal of shrinking the base

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 19:17 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On May 17, 2013 6:43 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd installs we don't even get dmraid

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: You could transfer the install to a system which contains a dmraid array, or add a dmraid array to an existing install (I think this thread has been considering only the case of the installed system itself being on the

[Bug 960358] perl-Gtk2 does not provide all its modules

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960358 Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene

2013-05-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene has broken dependencies in the F-19 tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) On i386: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) Please resolve this

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-SamTools

2013-05-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-SamTools has broken dependencies in the F-19 tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite) perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq) On i386: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-SamTools

2013-05-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-SamTools has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite) perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq) On i386: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene

2013-05-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) On i386: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) Please resolve

[perl-Encode] Specify all dependencies

2013-05-17 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d2c77d8a202250a74a5155ef9048c07fc3ec297f Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 17 14:57:23 2013 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-Encode.spec | 13 - 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Encode.spec b/perl-Encode.spec

File Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v0.1.13.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2013-05-17 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mozilla-PublicSuffix: cf54eb830d959f36cd107dd74c07b8a9 Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v0.1.13.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Mozilla-PublicSuffix/f19] Initial import (#963197)

2013-05-17 Thread Yanko Kaneti
Summary of changes: 5ade837... Initial import (#963197) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perlbrew] update to 0.63

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 222a3818eae98baba7ced503529aa908e0f3f5d0 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Fri May 17 08:23:27 2013 -0600 update to 0.63 .gitignore|1 + perlbrew.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perlbrew/f19] update to 0.63

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 222a381... update to 0.63 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perlbrew/f18] update to 0.63

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 222a381... update to 0.63 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 960446] perlbrew-0.63 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960446 --- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perlbrew-0.63-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perlbrew-0.63-1.fc19 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 960446] perlbrew-0.63 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960446 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perlbrew-0.63-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perlbrew-0.63-1.fc18 -- You are receiving this

File Moose-2.0802.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Moose: 0e20adbf04d229465a91d5b6122a7bb7 Moose-2.0802.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Moose] update to 2.0802

2013-05-17 Thread Iain Arnell
commit cacf630405d127eaece181f2c2d101ff0c828de9 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Fri May 17 09:41:32 2013 -0600 update to 2.0802 .gitignore |1 + perl-Moose.spec | 10 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff

File Config-IniFiles-2.81.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by spot

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Callaway
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Config-IniFiles: b99a2c17e3221e45010d37e8509105d2 Config-IniFiles-2.81.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Config-IniFiles] 2.81

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 2016f86b0d6be2587aecb76dde52eb2218f9e991 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri May 17 12:54:52 2013 -0400 2.81 .gitignore|1 + perl-Config-IniFiles.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2

[Bug 963121] perl-Config-IniFiles-2.80 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963121 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW

[Bug 853770] perl-Bio-SamTools-1.38 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853770 Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 964286] New: perl-DBI-1.627 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964286 Bug ID: 964286 Summary: perl-DBI-1.627 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-DBI Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity:

[Bug 960446] perlbrew-0.63 is available

2013-05-17 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960446 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED

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