[Bug 2221022] New: perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20230707.001 is available

2023-07-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2221022 Bug ID: 2221022 Summary: perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20230707.001 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Business-ISBN-Data Keywords:

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 09:40:59 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: It needs to be off by default. See KDE’s telemetry policy Again, if it's off by default then the data will be garbage. There is no point in doing opt-in telemetry. I would withdraw the proposal entirely if we cannot do it

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jul 7 2023 at 01:39:24 AM +, Maxwell G wrote: I don't see an attachment. Trying again. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2023-07-06 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-81803bf20b chromium-114.0.5735.198-1.el8 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing apptainer-1.2.0~rc.2-1.el8

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2023-07-06 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-9dad7fa701 chromium-114.0.5735.198-1.el7 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing apptainer-1.2.0~rc.2-1.el7

[Bug 2215546] perl-Net-HTTP-6.23 is available

2023-07-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215546 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-Net-HTTP-6.23-1.fc38 |perl-Net-HTTP-6.23-1.fc38

Orphaning piper

2023-07-06 Thread Peter Hutterer
I've orphaned the piper package. This is the GTK GUI to interface with the libratbag daemon to configure programmable mice. It's up for grabs now if you want it, first come, first serve and so on. My personal take is that this should be flatpak only but who am I to stand in the way of a motivated

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 8:53 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 11:08:15 PM +0200, Björn Persson > wrote: > > As a non-user of Gnome 3 who normally never runs any Gnome 3 settings > > programs, I get the impression that Fedora 40 will begin accumulating > > unused metrics

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/6/23 21:17, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: >> Then make the metrics be neither opt-in nor opt-out. Have >> “Enable telemetry (y/n)?” be a mandatory question in the >> installer, >> which the user must answer. > > The

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Maxwell G
On Thu Jul 6, 2023 at 20:17 CDT, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I'm attaching a screenshot to give an idea of what this would look like > in gnome-initial-setup. I don't have a gnome-control-center screenshot > handy, but it would be similar, except there it would default to off. I don't see an

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Then make the metrics be neither opt-in nor opt-out. Have “Enable telemetry (y/n)?” be a mandatory question in the installer, which the user must answer. The problem is if users are expected to answer, they are going to

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 11:33:03 PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote: Given the detailed proposal, it's probably too late now for any fundamental changes, but there's a formal research area called Differential Privacy [1] that deals with the collection of user data in such a way that it

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 11:08:15 PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: As a non-user of Gnome 3 who normally never runs any Gnome 3 settings programs, I get the impression that Fedora 40 will begin accumulating unused metrics somewhere in the filesystem. To prevent a constantly growing waste of

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/6/23 15:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 08:19:07 PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: >> All telemetry collection MUST be an opt-in feature (disabled by >> default). I'm strongly against enabling it by default. > > As explained in the proposal document, we

[Bug 2220995] perl-HTTP-Date-6.06 is available

2023-07-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2220995 --- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- the-new-hotness/release-monitoring.org's scratch build of perl-HTTP-Date-6.06-1.fc38.src.rpm for rawhide completed http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103016412 -- You are

[Bug 2220995] perl-HTTP-Date-6.06 is available

2023-07-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2220995 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Created attachment 1974371 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1974371=edit Update to 6.06 (#2220995) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for

[Bug 2220995] New: perl-HTTP-Date-6.06 is available

2023-07-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2220995 Bug ID: 2220995 Summary: perl-HTTP-Date-6.06 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-HTTP-Date Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

Re: redhat-rpm-config build flags updatesin rawhide

2023-07-06 Thread Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
Florian Weimer writes: > Today, I pushed a redhat-rpm-config update to rawhide, > redhat-rpm-config-260-1.fc39. The only expected change is that > -Wno-complain-wrong-lang now shows up in %optflags (but not > %build_cflags etc.). It should prevent Fortran compilers from warning > on

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Leigh Scott
So this change is for workstation iso only?, the other spins wont have this unwanted change. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:33:03PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote: > changes, but there's a formal research area called Differential Privacy [1] Oops, forgot the link: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_privacy -- Michal Domonkos / RPM dev team / Red Hat, Inc.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > == Summary == > > The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes > to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation > usage metrics. Given the detailed proposal, it's probably too late now

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
As a non-user of Gnome 3 who normally never runs any Gnome 3 settings programs, I get the impression that Fedora 40 will begin accumulating unused metrics somewhere in the filesystem. To prevent a constantly growing waste of storage space, I'll have to run one of two Gnome 3 settings programs –

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 9:58 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 06/07/2023 21:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > As explained in the proposal document, we know that opt-in metrics are > > not very useful because few users would opt in, and these users would > >

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Maxwell G
On Thu Jul 6, 2023 at 14:32 CDT, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 08:19:07 PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > All telemetry collection MUST be an opt-in feature (disabled by > > default). I'm strongly against enabling it by default. > > As explained in the proposal

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06/07/2023 21:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: As explained in the proposal document, we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful because few users would opt in, and these users would not be representative of Fedora users as a whole. Because Linux users care about their privacy. We are

Add to Mailing List

2023-07-06 Thread neilanthonydesignbuild
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Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 08:19:07 PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: All telemetry collection MUST be an opt-in feature (disabled by default). I'm strongly against enabling it by default. As explained in the proposal document, we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful because few

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 08:41:03 PM +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote: I don't understand where my reply is supposed to go so here it is on the mailing list *and* on the forums? Are the change proposal owners reading both? In theory, we're supposed to be discussing this on Discourse to make

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Neil Uranic
As an opt-in option I am all for it. It should be turned off by default and easily removed. The opt-in could even be part of the installation process, adn if you don't choose to opt-in the necessary packages never get installed. Without it being deployed as opt-in it would be a huge invasion

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Simon de Vlieger
I don't understand where my reply is supposed to go so here it is on the mailing list *and* on the forums? Are the change proposal owners reading both? -- Perhaps this is implicit in the use of eos-* but I seem to be missing a list of what metrics would be collected exactly and what is

Re: How to use llvm15 for building a package

2023-07-06 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 3:25 AM Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I confirm I run the same issue once I properly set parameters for building > on cmake ( -DLLVM_ROOT=%{_libdir}/llvm15 \ >-DLLVM_BC_GENERATOR='clang++' \). > I am not sure this is what you'd want to do anyway as you'll be mixing

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics. All telemetry collection MUST be an opt-in feature (disabled by default). I'm strongly against

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Patsy Griffin
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:54 AM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jonathan Wakely said: > > From the change proposal: > > > > == Feedback == > > In June of 2021, we proposed creating a new tzdata sub-package that > > would only provide the UTC timezone. As part of the discussion around >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Alessandro Astone
Is there any interest in providing the full older clang binary instead of just compat libraries? In my case, I'm working on an LLVM pass currently targeting LLVM15, and i can use the llvm15 rpm to build it. But then I don't have a way to compile a C source into an LLVM15-compatible intermediate

F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Aoife Moloney
Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like the one you are reading right now) will still be sent to the devel-announce mailing list, but the conversation about each change will take place on Fedora Discussion

F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Aoife Moloney
Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like the one you are reading right now) will still be sent to the devel-announce mailing list, but the conversation about each change will take place on Fedora Discussion

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 4:12 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > This is a status update for > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F39ModernizeTBB > > The tbb2020.3 compat package has now been added to rawhide: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-15ccd1cedb > > It doesn't include the

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

2023-07-06 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 07:42:39AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > The side tag has been merged: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-4e8e736635 > > FTBFS (final): > > arbor (not related to fmt, some tests failed on s390x) > CuraEngine > bout++ > cachelib > dolphin-emu

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230706.n.0 changes

2023-07-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 10:41:59PM +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > > So lots of spins got broken... I may investigate these just for interest > (I am not the maintainer of any spins above), > however from just a quick glance at this, now fixing these spin breakage > seems rather > tough work than

Re: HEADS UP: Update to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide

2023-07-06 Thread Sandro Mani
On 06.07.23 16:02, Remi Collet wrote: Le 06/07/2023 à 15:53, Sandro Mani a écrit : Hi I'm updating to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide, which carries a soname bump. I'm building geos-3.12.0 in f39-build-side-69654 and will rebuild the following dependencies: osgearth vfrnav mingw-osgearth It

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 11:46, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > Oops, I meant to CC the package-ow...@fedoraproject.org addresses for > the packages I'll be changing (see below). > > For blender, gazebo, opencascade, and opensubdiv, it's a one line > change to the spec file, something like: > >

Re: HEADS UP: Update to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide

2023-07-06 Thread Remi Collet
Le 06/07/2023 à 15:53, Sandro Mani a écrit : Hi I'm updating to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide, which carries a soname bump. I'm building geos-3.12.0 in f39-build-side-69654 and will rebuild the following dependencies: osgearth vfrnav mingw-osgearth It seems you miss some, On Fedora 37 # dnf

HEADS UP: Update to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide

2023-07-06 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I'm updating to geos-3.12.0 in rawhide, which carries a soname bump. I'm building geos-3.12.0 in f39-build-side-69654 and will rebuild the following dependencies: osgearth vfrnav mingw-osgearth Thanks Sandro ___ devel mailing list --

HEADS UP: cgnslib-4.4.0 update

2023-07-06 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I'm updating to cgnslib-4.4.0 in rawhide, which carries a soname bump. I've built cgnslib-4.4.0 in f39-build-side-69646 and will rebuild the following dependencies: gmsh paraview vtk Thanks Sandro ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230706.n.0 changes

2023-07-06 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Fedora Rawhide Report wrote on 2023/07/06 20:45: OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230705.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230706.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 25 Added packages: 17 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 3465 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added

Re: Py3.12: vit -> urwid -> undefined symbol: PyUnicode_AS_UNICODE

2023-07-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 07. 23 11:21, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hi folks, While looking into the vit FTI bug[1], I ran into this error in the test: == ERROR: vit (unittest.loader._FailedTest.vit)

Re: rawhide build errors on i686

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 13:29, Felix Wang wrote: > > I also had the build error of `BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot, > mock exited with status 30`. [1, 2] May I ask how to resubmit the build? Just repeat exactly the steps you did to submit it the first time. Probably something like

Re: rawhide build errors on i686

2023-07-06 Thread Felix Wang
I also had the build error of `BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot, mock exited with status 30`. [1, 2] May I ask how to resubmit the build? [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/draco/c/d5a8ed8e388001de0f87150b725222be55a4a038?branch=rawhide [2]

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

2023-07-06 Thread Piotr Szubiakowski
Hey! > On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 at 20:34, Piotr Szubiakowski wrote: > > I think we all have a problem understanding what this announcement > > means. I do believe CentOS Stream is awesome software. It has to be > > since it's close to what RHEL is. My problem with CentOS Stream is > > that > > it's not

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 12:43, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:41 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: >> >> > >> > Wouldn't it be better to just update OpenCascade to its new upstream >> > version in that sidetag as well instead of doing a compat package for it? >> >> Define better. >> To

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:41 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > > > Wouldn't it be better to just update OpenCascade to its new upstream > version in that sidetag as well instead of doing a compat package for it? > > Define better. > To be clear, I'm not "doing a compat package" for it. I'm just >

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 11:46, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > Oops, I meant to CC the package-ow...@fedoraproject.org addresses for > the packages I'll be changing (see below). Which should be package-matinain...@fedoraproject.org nowadays. Doh. > > For blender, gazebo, opencascade, and opensubdiv,

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
Oops, I meant to CC the package-ow...@fedoraproject.org addresses for the packages I'll be changing (see below). For blender, gazebo, opencascade, and opensubdiv, it's a one line change to the spec file, something like: -BuildRequires: tbb-devel +BuildRequires: tbb2020.3-devel If you're happy

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 11:21, Ian McInerney via devel wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 11:12 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: >> >> This is a status update for >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F39ModernizeTBB >> >> The tbb2020.3 compat package has now been added to rawhide: >>

Re: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Ian McInerney via devel
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 11:12 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > This is a status update for > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F39ModernizeTBB > > The tbb2020.3 compat package has now been added to rawhide: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-15ccd1cedb > > It doesn't include

Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
This is a status update for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F39ModernizeTBB The tbb2020.3 compat package has now been added to rawhide: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-15ccd1cedb It doesn't include the docs or python modules (you can use the main tbb package for

Intent to retire python-bluepy

2023-07-06 Thread Alessio
I'm going to retire python-bluepy from Rawhide. It was an interesting Python interface to Bluetooth LE on Linux; I was some interests on it when I had time to tinker with Raspberry and Micro:bit boards. Currently there are problems building it with Python 3.12 (actually there were issues also

Py3.12: vit -> urwid -> undefined symbol: PyUnicode_AS_UNICODE

2023-07-06 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi folks, While looking into the vit FTI bug[1], I ran into this error in the test: > == > ERROR: vit (unittest.loader._FailedTest.vit) > -- > ImportError:

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

2023-07-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 at 20:34, Piotr Szubiakowski wrote: > I think we all have a problem understanding what this announcement > means. I do believe CentOS Stream is awesome software. It has to be > since it's close to what RHEL is. My problem with CentOS Stream is that > it's not a distribution of

Re: rawhide build errors on i686

2023-07-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 7/6/23 01:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 01:47:05PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 10:01 AM Paul Howarth wrote: Whatever this is, it's intermittent and it's still happening. I'm getting koschei reports about failed builds with this symptom every day,