Re: Heads up - Ogre 1.8.1 rawhide

2012-11-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 08:29:52 -0500, Martin Preisler mprei...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I want to push Ogre 1.8.1 into rawhide next week. This will most likely break some packages but we have a lots and lots of time to fix it all up in rawhide. The changes in Ogre API aren't extensive enough

Re: Yum Package Remove Order

2012-11-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:11:54 -0500, Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote: I have been working on packaging software into RPMs for my company. These RPMs create directories in %post into which dependent RPMs install components. If I yum remove the main package it will be erased first by

Re: Yum Package Remove Order

2012-11-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:38:36 -0500, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:11:54AM -0500, Mark Bidewell wrote: I have been working on packaging software into RPMs for my company. These RPMs create directories in %post into which dependent RPMs install

Re: I want upgrade my computer

2012-11-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 16:47:16 +, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . You probably should rebort this as a bug. 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade So what you

Re: RFC: Feature process improvements

2012-11-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 15:01:21 -0700, There are several mechanisms for a developer to get their work into the release notes. The rel-notes BZ tag was wholly unused during this cycle, to the best of my knowledge. There were no bugs filed against the release-notes bugzilla product to request

Re: Cannot change fedora-cvs flag on bugzilla

2012-11-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 15:36:24 +, Jamie Nguyen j...@jamielinux.com wrote: Well, I changed my bugzilla email to match, logged out and back in, and it still doesn't let me change the fedora-cvs flag. Any ideas? For some services you may need to wait for a short period of time (maybe

Re: Beta status: blockers, karma etc

2012-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 00:35:43 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: systemd was in TC9, so you can upkarma based on TC9 testing. The texlive update is a blocker only for reasons of taking up lots of space on the DVD - normal testing that it still works, deps are sane etc should

Re: Beta status: blockers, karma etc

2012-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:01:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Well, the key question is 'is this update at least better than the last one'. Though of course if there are still significant remaining problems, please do bring them to the attention of the maintainer...

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 16:50:25 +0100, Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com wrote: As I said SIGs don't have a leader. You can't force people to do the work if they don't wish to. You can ask them to communicate changes and make them more visible for other projects. That depends on the

Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

2012-11-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 16:04:39 +0100, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: When I do not react upon requests, I usually either missed or forgot about the request or deliberately do not yet want to approve. That said, what I feel is missing in Fedora's pkgdb web-forms is an option to

Re: Rawhide

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:59 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - This is a problem - when developers do not work first in Rawhide and do not push back to branched (or push into branched from Rawhide if it's on time). We talked about it in the last

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:35:53 -0500, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: My idea would be to have two releases: == Fedora Stable == * A release for general users with low volume of security fixes and important bug fixes. ** Bug fixes would be pushed monthly and QA would be performed on

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 13:23:59 -0500, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: This tool is still not going to be able to do magic and there will be config things that still need to be redone. Third party repos will still be an issue. It's a clean installation, I don't think it needs any

Re: Rawhide

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:32:07 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: I would personally love to see koji sign all official builds with a This was built in koji key. If the same key is used regardless of release that could allow for hard links to builds inherited from another release.

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 16:32:00 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 00:18 +0100, drago01 wrote: In a rolling release model, everyone deals with foo-1.0 to foo-2.0, then a week later they deal with bar-1.0 to bar-2.0, then a week later they deal with

Any issue with fedpkg new-sources?

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Hans and I have been having a problem uploading the source for the new version of hegdewars to the lookaside cache. There is some initial network traffic, but then things hang. Has anybody successfully uploaded a new file to the lookaside cache in about the last 12 hours? -- devel mailing

Re: Any issue with fedpkg new-sources?

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 09:29:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Hans and I have been having a problem uploading the source for the new version of hegdewars to the lookaside cache. There is some initial network traffic, but then things hang. Has anybody successfully uploaded

Re: Any issue with fedpkg new-sources?

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 09:41:05 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 09:29:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Hans and I have been having a problem uploading the source for the new version of hegdewars to the lookaside cache. There is some

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 11:11:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: In any case, I think we do need to look at release cycle changes or at the very least Feature process revamp. And get comments from other than developers. Marketting might have serious concerns about the loss of

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 00:26:08 +0100, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 03 novembre 2012 à 07:46 -0500, Bruno Wolff III a écrit : I do not run it, so I cannot judge, but I think the first step to fix something is to know the exact problems to fix. If the issue is too much

Re: Rawhide

2012-11-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 18:32:20 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Additionally, if some number of these folks who pledge to run rawhide full time were provenpackagers we could just go in and fix things as they hit (or soon after) instead of waiting a while for fixes to go out. I'm

Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

2012-11-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 17:57:57 +, \Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote: Surely if an individual has not logged into for several months into our infrastructure he must be inactive no? Not necessarily. You can watch things without having to login to infrastructure. Unless

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:30:30 -0400, Eric H. Christensen spa...@fedoraproject.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? As a first shot, you might see if there are been bugs filed or

Re: rawhide report: 20120926 changes

2012-09-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 20:05:13 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:54:40PM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: [libguestfs] 1:libguestfs-1.19.44-2.fc19.i686 requires selinux-policy = 0:3.11.1-23 1:libguestfs-1.19.44-2.fc19.x86_64

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:12:22 -0600, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Details of new features, known issues, and how to download/install/upgrade can all be found in the release notes:

Re: Systemd macros (f18+)

2012-09-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:10:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: In other words: A) There's one postinst script that invokes systemctl enable B) There's another one that does not invoke systemctl, and leaves the service off C) There's a third one that invokes systemctl

Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:24:40 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet. So I'd like to push it into F18 --- will anyone help test? Yeah! I'll definitely do some testing. My personal web server is running on F18 with updates-testing enabled.

Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 17:58:32 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: I updated my test rawhide VM and now it's broken - it boots to target Basic System. I think that depends on the version of systemd used in the initramfs. When I saw that problem previously I was able to boot

Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:31:33 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:24:40 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet. So I'd like to push it into F18 --- will anyone help test

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 23:27:43 +0200, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: Can't we just change the branching to a later date? Branching later results in rawhide being frozen during the alpha freeze which breaks things for people doing development. (Note that by alpha people really

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 18:30:10 +0200, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 29.08.12 08:44, Jim Meyering (j...@meyering.net) wrote: So this happened because somebody updated the Rawhide package, which disabled package inheritance from F18. I have now untagged the package in

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 11:00:07 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:51:57 -0500 I'd like to propose the opposite: Lets drop any inheritance between branched and rawhide. Will that really work as expected? The way we do branching has builds effectively move out

Re: Network configuration future

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 13:23:37 -0500, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: That's NM's heritage, but that's certainly not its focus. We're actually focusing a *lot* more on enterprise use-cases these days, including lots of knobs that admins like to turn. Is there a good source of

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 20:43:23 +, \Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote: As you know we ( QA Community ) want all the testing to be focused on the release we are about to push out the door and we would like ( and some expect ) that maintainers are keeping the same focus and

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 14:42:20 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: I'm of the opinion that rawhide should be inheriting from the builds of the previous release, so long as there haven't been any builds directly on rawhide. I'm also of the opinion that the inheritance

Re: Network configuration future

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 16:38:27 -0500, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: 'man NetworkManager' is a good place to start here, which leads you to NetworkManager.conf, which leads you to: dns=dnsmasq I knew about that, but I don't use dnsmasq, I use dnscache. which with 0.9.6 and any

Re: Rawhide boot problems

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 19:43:32 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:32:55 +0100 This actually has nothing to do with mass rebuilds (unless I am misunderstanding). Mass rebuilds are done _before_ branching to avoid problems like this. :) Yeah this isn't as much

Re: Network configuration future

2012-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 17:04:31 -0500, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 16:46 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 16:38:27 -0500, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: 'man NetworkManager' is a good place to start here, which leads you

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:59:29 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Presets are a valuable new feature for both distribution constructors and administrators - rather than having a single hardcoded policy *in the packages* about what starts and doesn't start (and requires

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:25:32 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:59:29 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Presets are a valuable new feature for both distribution constructors and administrators

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 13:24:53 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: which should not do anything on an update. It would auto-enable if you were installing the package when it was previously not present, but that isn't what you're describing. File a bug maybe? I'll need to keep better

Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-08-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 18:38:33 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am aware that F18 is a special release - base for a new RHEL, so it is possible that you will not want to put there not yet released software. PostgreSQL 9.2 does not have any true revolutionary features,

Re: Bad F17 install experiences: CentOS 6.3 vs. F17

2012-08-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:13:14 -0400, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, sorry that the devices that need the most work are the ones that get the most work. In the future we'll be sure to focus on end-of-lifed hardware with feature-complete drivers. Even where you guys couldn't

Re: Boost.Thread in Boost 1.50

2012-08-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 16:05:35 +0200, Petr Machata pmach...@redhat.com wrote: So if you had to put in any hacks to have your script detect Boost.Thread, or to link one of the binaries, it should shortly be possible to remove them. Thanks for this update. I had one case where upstream had

Re: Bad F17 install experiences: CentOS 6.3 vs. F17

2012-08-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:21:16 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: On 08/16/2012 08:52 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:13:14 -0400, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: Even where you guys couldn't get stuff working, I have gotten work around advice

Re: Bodhi issues

2012-08-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:29:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: On 08/13/2012 11:51 AM, Luke Macken wrote: This issue should be resolved. Can you try again? I posted a karma comment recently without issue. I just got a 500 status twice, though both copies of the

Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120812 changes

2012-08-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 15:54:25 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Since this broken dep report is sad and large, I decided to try and help out on it. ember - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4381302 I got ogre rebuilding yesterday, but need to get mygui working.

Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120810 changes

2012-08-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 08:49:13 +0200, Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote: I'm very suspicious about those boost broken deps, why did they not show up in the rawhide composes themselves? I've the feeling something is wrong wrt boost and the F-18 tree ... The version in F18 is above

Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120810 changes

2012-08-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 05:03:53 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 08:49:13 +0200, Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote: I'm very suspicious about those boost broken deps, why did they not show up in the rawhide composes themselves? I've the feeling

Re: f18 mass branching

2012-08-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 16:06:07 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: updates shouldn't be enabled? (branched has no updates repo... the main branched repo itself updates every night like rawhide). There is a dummy/empty repo for f18 as far as I can tell. One might want to enable it

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-08-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 20:13:18 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: I'm still hoping to kill libpng-compat (and libtiff-compat) before we branch F18. Should libpng12 obsolete libpng-compat? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

I'll have odd connectivity the next week or so

2012-07-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I'm leaving for a vacation tonight and will be on the road through most of Monday. Similarly next week when I return. In between I'll should have some network access, but my schedule will be weird. If something important cmoes up, I'll probably be able to deal with it. -- devel mailing list

Re: Shorewall and kernel-modules-extra

2012-07-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 13:44:00 +, Glandvador glandva...@yahoo.com wrote: Some shorewall (firewall) operations depend on several modules moved to kernel-modules-extra package. So how to deal with that? From my POI, either make shorewall depending of the kernel-modules-extra or move back

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:48:13 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 18:24:52 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Updated with new list of packages that have failed to build. Package stratagus (fails to build) statagus is currently FTBFS

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 18:24:52 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Updated with new list of packages that have failed to build. Package stratagus (fails to build) statagus is currently FTBFS because it isn't using the newer libpng API. Assuming that's all that's wrong with

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 18:55:19 +0400, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/26 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to: Package stratagus (fails to build) statagus is currently FTBFS because it isn't using the newer libpng API. Assuming that's all that's wrong with it, I'll be able

Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 18

2012-07-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I'm seeing a few downgrades after the rebuild packages were tagged into rawhide. Were some updates missed and then replaced by packages from the rebuild that shouldn't have been? Downgrading: GMT x86_64 4.5.7-4.fc18rawhide 1.7 M GMT-common

Re: kernel 3.4.4-5 refuses to boot

2012-07-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 15:21:24 -0400, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Has there been any trouble booting the 3.4.4-5 kernel? I didn't have issues with it, but have now switched to 3.4.5-2 which is available from koji. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Updates: karma and timeouts

2012-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 16:38:19 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: 14 days is kind of a long time and it's easy to forget, so it's probably a good idea to sign into Bodhi every so often and check if you have any updates sitting in updates-testing where the timeout has expired

Re: dracut-20-51 - Heads up

2012-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 10:54:12 -0400, Marc Dionne marc.c.dio...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com wrote: Added an automatic test in the dracut testsuite, so that this never happens again.. Sorry for the inconvenience. Yes, rawhide sometimes

Re: Support for legacy init script actions for systemd services

2012-06-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 16:11:19 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Questions? Comments? Thanks! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: service restart question

2012-06-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:30:00 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: See also bug #832029 before being in too much of a hurry to decide that this Must Be A Good Thing. At minimum, it currently seems that we might need per-service tuning of the restart timing parameters before being sure

Re: Default image target size [Was:Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)]

2012-06-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 14:29:28 +, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Would it be possible for QA to get access to the Multi Desktops before release and test those directly against a media-determined hard limit? Also, I think the limit for DVDs should be the media size, 4.7

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

2012-06-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 14:22:31 +0100, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 June 2012 13:56, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: How do we make sure that if package manager goes crazy the user still have a way to reboot his system that is not 'press power button for 5 seconds' ?

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:09:48 -0400, DJ Delorie d...@redhat.com wrote: Additionally, it's been turned on in rawhide. Rawhide nightlies have been failing, though, so how do we test this? Run rawhide. You can do this by installing F17 and yum upgrading to rawhide. There is an issue with

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

2012-06-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 23:58:03 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I really hope this is rejected. As already discussed in the relevant thread, it would add bloat to the live images which would force us to drop useful software from the KDE spin to fit the size target. And for

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 14:49:25 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com wrote: imo, kernel maintainers should have released 3.3.8 or 3.4.1, not 3.4.0 for f17 3.4.2 is available, though the last I checked the build hadn't been pushed to testing. I don't know if that is an oversight or

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:44:37 -0600, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: On 05/04/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Rawhide is in bad shape too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816284 Transaction Check Error: file /usr/include/db.h conflicts between attempted

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 17:27:03 +0100, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: I get the need for people to volunteer and test and that's fine. But the thing I can't square here is why then we aren't all on updates-testing all the time? The kernel is one of the few packages you can guarantee

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 13:16:24 -0400, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: If we means all people subscribed to fedora-devel I think everyone should run with updates-testing enabled. This definition of we is the people that make Fedora happen so we should always test our stuff -

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 16:58:18 -0400, Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com wrote: I eventually hit it with a hammer and did yum remove '*fc16*', when I reviewed the resultant transaction there were a handful of fc17 packages also removed as a result of dependencies but these were easily

Re: rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 00:00:24 +0200, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.05.2012 23:38, schrieb drago01: I've just rerun the test with 3.4.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc18.x86_64, This one has debug options enabled; 3.4.0-0.rc6.git0.1 is the one without debug options. how can

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 17:36:07 +0200, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: * There are privacy issues with sending the users coredumps to some server on the internet As whole Fedora is built by the Fedora Project and Retrace Server is also run by Fedora Project this is

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 22:08:20 +0100, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote: FIFE wasn't maintained for quite some time when that request was filed. Not pointing fingers, but from the packages I've maintained on other waters I've always kept my stuff updated and in the shape possible.

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:49:58 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: So the big question is -- where did this break down? How can we update our documentation to guide people in this direction? One thing people can do for things obviously covered by a SIG (games in this case)

Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql, postgresql? I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache.

Re: Package libsmbclient needs to be rebuild against new samba4-common

2012-04-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 20:53:35 +0300, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/22/2012 08:29 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: Hi, the current samba4 update for fedora 17 (x86_64) is broken because libsmbclient requires version 4.0.0-41alpha18 of samba4-common package. I believe the samba 3

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:52:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution? I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a regular

Re: Odd Brocken Upgrade Path Error Messages

2012-04-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 21:50:57 +0200, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: I have got the following error message from the build system: dist-f15-updates f16 (stellarium-0.11.1-1.fc15 stellarium-0.11.0-1.fc16) Unforunately, this makes no sense for me, because you can create a

Re: Building the GNOME 3.4.1 Release

2012-04-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 15:52:18 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Richard Hughes wrote: If you're maintaining a GNOMEish package and you want it included in the 3.4.1 release, please build the package like normal and then add the build ID to:

Re: kernel-modules-extra and GFS2

2012-04-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 07:19:32 -0400, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: We can move it back if needs be. Honestly, we might wind up just disabling the rest of the stuff contained in there and dropping the sub-package entirely. We're still kind of undecided on whether it's worth doing at

Re: Why fixes of broken dependencies are not automatically tagged into F17

2012-04-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:15:14 +0200, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Actually the reason why I am asking is that there is a lot of broken dependencies, because of Ruby update. Some of them are already fixed, but not accepted due to freeze. Proposing all this fixes as NTH would be

Re: Why fixes of broken dependencies are not automatically tagged into F17

2012-04-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:41:16 +0200, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure if this is in support of my case or against :) Against. But as you says If they aren't breaking things in the default install or the 4 desktop live images, then they should go into updates immediately

Re: Fwd: ImageMagick - [Fedora Update] [comment] xine-lib-1.1.20.1-3.fc17, emacs-24.0.94-3.fc17, calibre-0.8.42-1.fc17, perl-GD-SecurityImage-1.71-3.fc17, techne-0.2.1-4.fc17, gdl-0.9.2-5.fc17, autot

2012-04-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 07:27:31 -0600, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: Suggestions? I'm tempted to pushed this to stable so that broken deps emails start going out to get people to do the needed rebuilds. Or perhaps someone in releng can for the needed buildroot overrides? You

Re: Fwd: ImageMagick - [Fedora Update] [comment] xine-lib-1.1.20.1-3.fc17, emacs-24.0.94-3.fc17, calibre-0.8.42-1.fc17, perl-GD-SecurityImage-1.71-3.fc17, techne-0.2.1-4.fc17, gdl-0.9.2-5.fc17, autot

2012-04-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 10:55:13 -0600, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: I think the issue was that you can't create a new override for an expired one. You have to edit it. I reactivated the emacs override as well. They are both in the build root now. I think we're all set

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:29:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we really want is to just autostart the installer. Unfortunately, the current live installer does not really work well for that... I don't think that is a good

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:44:17 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: That really depends on what use cases we see for our live cds. In my view, there's really only two: The primary use for a live cd is to install. And then, there is a secondary use where you want to review or

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 20:58:12 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: - it doesn't support O_DIRECT I thought this was also true of ext4 with data journaling enabled. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Ogre going to 1.7.4 (rawhide now, f17 soon)

2012-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am upgrading ogre to 1.7.4 in rawhide. I am handling rebuilds of the few dependencies. Assuming things go OK, I'll be doing the upgrade in f17 soon, -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fwd: Fedora 16 w/encrypted filesystem: unable to boot Xen kernels

2012-03-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:53:27 -0400, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: From xen-devel list. How can I downgrade my Fedora 16 kernel to get around this kernel bug identified by Konrad? Yum does not list any other kernels other than 3.2.10. Normally you will have three install and can

Re: Fwd: Fedora 16 w/encrypted filesystem: unable to boot Xen kernels

2012-03-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:31:01 -0400, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 03/21/2012 03:24 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:53:27 -0400, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: From xen-devel list. How can I downgrade my Fedora 16 kernel to get around this kernel bug

Re: Question about commiting the sources

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:59:04 +0400, Pavel Alexeev fo...@hubbitus.com.ru wrote: Long time want ask - why? Why sources not under git too? Is there any troubles with big blobs? Can I point on such files from web? How? Especially I need it to point on my patches to provide it upstream. Well

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 21:51:19 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Hey, that's pretty good. Don't see any big mistakes, and they even got the i740 in there. Solid 8 or 9 out of 10 I'd say. I wish they had included chip set names for more of the cards. They didn't list the

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 16:36:07 +0100, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, which was a very nice card. It was reasonably priced and didn't need a fan on the card. That's still the graphics card on my primary computer

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:47:36 -0500, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: That really should be a releng ticket not an infrastructure one. I have filed the following ticket for this issue: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5124 Thanks. -- devel mailing list

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:21:52 -0500, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Mattia Verga mattia.ve...@tiscali.it wrote: And what about for pre-built binary files contained in source that are not installed in the final rpm (ex. deleted in the %setup

Re: Review swap: Summoning Wars

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:22:05 -0400, Martin Preisler mprei...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I would appreciate a review of this hack n slash RPG game. Everything FOSS: GPLv3+ code and CC-BY-SA assets. sumwars.org for more info. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801092 I am not a

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 18:53:16 +0100, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: IANAL but I would call the odt source code and the pdf binary but just use the term documentation for either. It is not a binary in the sense of compiled code. The GPL requires you to to provide the preferred source

Re: Enet update for Red Eclipse packaging, request for help

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 15:22:11 +0100, Martin Erik Werner martinerikwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm in the process of packaging the game Red Eclipse[0] for Fedora (bug #800930[1]), but in order for Red Eclipse to not bundle the Enet lib, it needs to be updated from 1.2 to 1.3 in Fedora

Re: Enet update for Red Eclipse packaging, request for help

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 15:22:11 +0100, Martin Erik Werner martinerikwer...@gmail.com wrote: The current maintainer of both Egoboo and Enet seems busy and has not had time to update Enet since a request[2] was filed in Sep 2011. And did, at least earlier, say that it would be fine if

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