Re: Feedback wanted: Testing side-tag for switching dnf5 in Rawhide

2024-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
hether doing two updates in a row was really useful, if I remember.) That may be a big source of pain. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: SPDX Statistics - L'Aigle meteorite edition

2024-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
er hand, if we have some other big conversion efforts (like a virtual hackfest or something), maybe factoring in a big jump _is_ right. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject

Announcing Fedora Linux 40

2024-04-24 Thread Matthew Miller
. If you upgrade from an earlier Fedora Linux release, you'll get them as part of that. For new systems, please make sure to check for and apply updates as soon as possible. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Announcing Fedora Linux 40

2024-04-24 Thread Matthew Miller
. If you upgrade from an earlier Fedora Linux release, you'll get them as part of that. For new systems, please make sure to check for and apply updates as soon as possible. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___ devel-announce mailing list

Re: network service removed in Fedora 40 without a Change proposal(?)

2024-04-13 Thread Matthew Miller
n stronger. "Gone in 40" _does_ technically fit into the letter of "drop by 41"... but maybe not the spirit? I think a "drop in 41" change (and a clear item in the F40 release notes!) is probably the best way to clear the air -- but I don't thi

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Matthew Miller
s://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Matthew Miller
er ran the tests, but not on S390. Or, with a different timezone database than current in Fedora. Or etc. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Orphaning all my packages

2023-10-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 04:36:20PM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Thank you for all the effort you have put into maintaining these > packages so far, for the benefit of all of Fedora, and consequently > its downstream! Indeed -- thank you Todd. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Proje

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-13 Thread Matthew Miller
ropped-an-email-address-from-my-preferences-today/89614 > > I still do not understand what happened 2 days ago. Sorry, I missed that -- the infrastructure team doesn't actually handle Discourse. I'll respond to you there. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: An update on RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com

2023-09-13 Thread Matthew Miller
t before I'd personally back that, I'd like to see it _really_ revitalized... it needs to be more than a heroic effort by a few people. Otherwise, we'll be back in the same place in few years. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing l

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-13 Thread Matthew Miller
, if it isn't already. 8. Optional: notification messages will set a List-Id corresponding to the Change Proposals category. You can set up your mail filters to do what you like with those. 9. To interact, you can either come to the Discussion web interface, or just reply to the em

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-13 Thread Matthew Miller
mix is definitely not the intention and it > has already proven futile in a previous mishap. Right -- I really don't want to split the conversation. With the telemetry change, I didn't ask moderators here to take a heavy hand, because people had a lot they wanted to say and I didn't want to squ

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-15 Thread Matthew Miller
favor of this change, thanks for working on this Jens > and for keeping it simple! Me too! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedo

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-15 Thread Matthew Miller
ate document. And, unrelatedly, the existing privacy statement is in the process of an update -- needs a refresh for legal changes, and there are number of things that it suggests we might do that I think we have no interest in and should drop (like asking for geo coordinates). -- Matthew

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew Miller
tal hoops are more... hoopy... than would be idea. But once set up, it shouldn't be difficult. If you _are_ finding rough spots in that, I can raise the issues and see if we can make things beter. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mai

CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew Miller
y interest in playing that game.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:46:26AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I don't think there's a formal change filed yet. > > Matthew: Did you want to do that? Or would you like me or someone else > to do so? I would love someone else to do so, but if no one else wants to, I can. :) -- Ma

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Matthew Miller
le do things.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/cod

Re: Deprecation of the aspell package

2023-05-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 02:30:09PM +0200, Lukas Javorsky wrote: > This package has a dead upstream and has been obsoleted (in most > occurrences) by the hunspell package [2]. Oh no! I will have to update my joerc! And remember how to update my joerc! Thanks for the notice! -- Matthew

Re: disabling Haskell i686 packages

2023-05-26 Thread Matthew Miller
erness that also removes doc-build dependencies without package changes?) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Flatpaks without Modules (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-14 Thread Matthew Miller
Ideally that's orthogonal to Fedora runtime release, but practically speaking that's what we have now. Maybe in the future we could build a "slow" stream as part of EPEL on a UBI or CentOS Stream runtime? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Flatpaks without Modules (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-14 Thread Matthew Miller
ing point with Software Collections was the complixity it introduced into spec files -- lots of special macros that had to be used just-so. (And of course there were a lot of disagreements about naming things.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ deve

Re: Place to write something up

2023-05-09 Thread Matthew Miller
rfect, but it is, at least, _docs_. 1. My predecessor as FPL, for the new folks around here. 2. Standard warning: Do not visit TV Tropes if you value the next 10 hours of your life. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing lis

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 12:49:02AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > I've written this: > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960 > > and I'd love feedback on it. > > Asking feedback f

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
dora must migrate away, and to something where you'll be making more > individual decisions. Honestly, it's just plain not sustainable for me to keep doing that, whether or not it's good or bad. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
t NNTP. Gmane is a software that specifically exists to bridge email to NNTP. I actually love the idea of a Discourse-to-NNTP bridge. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
y control feature turned on (F7 in Firefox), you can use this in combination — j/k to move between posts, and then arrow keys over to shift-arrow select the part you want, and then again q to quote (or if it is a post you have permission to edit — your own, or a wiki post, or you're a mod — e to edi

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
cly-facing option to something more descriptive. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.f

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
ow to get it from Matrix. We can get it from Discourse with some SQL queries. https://discourse.org/plugins/data-explorer.html Once we have such a query defined, I can make it available for anyone (or certain groups of people) to run. (It's not generally available because you can query _a lot_.) --

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 06:11:45PM +, Randy Barlow via devel wrote: > On 4/21/23 14:05, Matthew Miller wrote: > >Accessiblity is important to Fedora, and I take this seriously. For > >Discourse, hit the ? key to bring up the page describing keyboard shortcuts. > > O

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
led, even though it's not running...) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: A new FMN will arrive this week

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
subscribe to > notifications yet. Sorry about that! Badges is on our list of tech debt to > handle, so hopefully it won't last too long. s/tech debt/older software that needs work to reduce ongoing maintenance costs/ :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
igners see the web interaction as primary, and that isn't going to change. * Dealing with email has a lot of corner cases, so there will be rough edges. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
ding replacing the 10+ answers one.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
erwise the result is two separate discussions. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
ead than they should be. The same is true in your other > mails, it's not a one-off thing.] This is probably Gmail's web client. It does this, and other odd things that make it very frustrating to use for anything but "top-post, quote-everything". -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
h the html and "uncooked" message, a bunch of metadata. And it can trigger on post, edit, metadata change, and other things. That's probably a better interface than email mangling. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel ma

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
or anything. > - Another problem is that there are already too many tags available and > the tag description is not visible in the post submit form. I think a > new user would be confused what tag to use. I'm confused too, but that's > probably just me... That's useful feedback. We're wor

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
hat we can do that without losing contributors. Fair enough! I intend to only submit the Changes move to FESCo at this time (or, once this discussion has settled), and the rest can come as it does. I just wanted to also give a clear picture of what I'm aiming for right up front. -- Matthew Mille

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
6692. (In short, the consequences are that processes which map more memory can do so, which is bad for memory usage overall and can hurt performance.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Firecracker microVM manager

2023-04-22 Thread Matthew Miller
andalone program[0] which is not built in the package, so it should > be clear that it isn't available. Silly question: would it make any sense at all to use _podman_ as a replacement for firecracker's jailer? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-22 Thread Matthew Miller
am to see if they think it would be a good fit. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
ing interesting) but keeps the web site as primary for actual notifications and for keeping track of what's read and not read. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
ings I'm not interested in. In that case, subscribing by category should do the trick. Categories are not light-weight, so we're unlikely to create new ones without fanfare. It's not just one checkbox, but there are only a handful of main ones anyway. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
f I talk to a lot of people about getting involved in Fedora. "Sign up for this mailing list and introduce yourself" is a big drop-out point. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
he client-side. (These are very easy to install into a given site, unlike weightier server-side plugins.) Or maybe even just some CSS. What exactly did you have in mind? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@li

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
> security reasons). Reasonably enough. There might be an option to embed images -- I'll look. For what it's worth, the images should all (and only) come from the dedicated CDN site for our hosting, and there's no linked tracking on our side or Discourse's. There's probably logs somewhere

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
> post/comment). I'm actually pretty impressed with how decent it is in elinks for a modern website. I do think you need Javascript to post, though. (And our elinks does not seem to be built with such support, which probably isn't sufficient anyway, alas.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
hat you want to subscribe to, just as you would subscribe to individual mailing lists. I have a post about this and Fedora Discussion specifically: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/navigating-fedora-discussion-tags-categories-and-concepts/35

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > > * also, to fix typos :) > > So, I will say this is kind of a peeve of mine about server-based > discussion systems (whether web or client like Slack/Discord): allowin

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
do have some options for handling this. We are (very soon now) going to have sync of FAS groups to Discourse. If we want or need to, we could limit posting in Project Discussion to people who are members of one or more FAS groups. -- Matthew Miller

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
simple grouping by > year/month like the mailing lists is very comfortable in comparison. There isn't (as far as I know) a browsable year/month view, but you can limit searches with before and after: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/search?q=%23server-wg%20after%3A2021-01-01%20before%3A2021-02

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
and whenever there is a new patch, you get a notification. (You can decide if you want these immediately, hourly, daily, or weekly.) https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/new-site-feature-saved-searches-get-notifications-if-a-new-post-matches/46892 -- Mat

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
comments. I really don't think that's a _tooling_ issue. > > This is an experience I want to avoid. If this is what Matthew is > proposing a Fedora development discussions to be, then sorry, this is > not an improvement. Well, no. It is not what I am proposing. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Lead

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
me. Keeping up with fedora-devel takes very little of my time; > keeping up with Discourse instances is a much slower affair. What could we do to make that easier for you? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailin

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
ourse sites, where I can see all of the notifications in one place. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
me close to the > threading of emails. I was not getting lost in threads of conversation > while still being under the umbrella topic, no need to open who knows how > many links to read all tangents. I appreciate your perspective, feedback, and willingness to try this out! -- Matthew Miller

tangent on tag curation [was Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new]

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
eaders, so if that's the your primary way of interacting, you _can_ do something with them. But it doesn't apply to on-site notifications.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:24:48PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > > I am proposing that over the course of 2023, starting with the Changes > > process, we move Fedora development conversations from this mailing list to > > the D

It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Matthew Miller
evel overall is ultimately a Fedora Council decision. For right now, though: let’s discuss — on the list! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to d

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-20 Thread Matthew Miller
e. I don't have an effort like that planned, but I would not be opposed to someone who wants to work on that. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapr

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-20 Thread Matthew Miller
eve it will be worth it. Devel list actually covers a lot of different topics. Discourse lets us categorize those better while still keeping it all together. The first thing I suggest moving is discussion around proposed Changes. This is a FESCo decision. The rest I won't duplicate here. --

It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-20 Thread Matthew Miller
evel overall is ultimately a Fedora Council decision. For right now, though: let’s discuss — on the list! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedor

Re: Future of encryption in Fedora

2023-04-17 Thread Matthew Miller
bigger moderation team to help with that. (This too is waiting on the FAS group sync.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Future of encryption in Fedora

2023-04-17 Thread Matthew Miller
removes most limits. (The "trust level 0" limits are pretty important to stop spammers and trolls, so I don't want to relax them further.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Fwd: License: GPL-3.0-or-later AND GPL-2.0-or-later

2023-03-10 Thread Matthew Miller
/docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/license-field/#_basic_policy Yeah, this is a change from previous guidance. Instead of trying to calculate the effect, just state what's there. Even if it makes the expression kind of long and unwieldy. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: F39 proposal: FontAwesome6 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-03-10 Thread Matthew Miller
le, version 6.x contains a Fedora icon, while previous versions > do not. Version 5.x contains an an unauthorized not-so-great single-color hackup of the "classic" logo. Version 6.x contains an authorized rendition of the legit current logo. Is 6.x backwards compatible with 5? -- Ma

Re: Changes to Bugzilla API key requirements

2023-02-23 Thread Matthew Miller
future products. (They're going to Jira.) RH Bugzilla isn't officially shut down, but its days are numbered. We need to come up with something else. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-23 Thread Matthew Miller
" would be the easiest way to go. And the default config could be changed in DNF at any time for F38+. It doesn't sound like it's really worthwhile to bother changing F36 or F37. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-23 Thread Matthew Miller
hem but getting an average 0.01% size benefit... that probably doesn't outweigh the costs. But, we _can_ tell (again, see previous discussion) that what we're currently providing is really unlikely to be very useful. So, I'm not actually sure this approach buys us anything. --

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-23 Thread Matthew Miller
. If you have a constructive, alternate proposal, let's hear that, please. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-22 Thread Matthew Miller
"very long time". There is work in the right direction, and supporting that can only help. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@list

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-21 Thread Matthew Miller
lays * ongoing maintenance work * other? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedorapr

Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-21 Thread Matthew Miller
real benefits (and could possibly do even more.) But, I think it's time to move on. We have ostree and various container-delta approaches. We should focus on those — and give DeltaRPMs a sad, fond farewell. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Please join in planning Fedora's next 5-year strategic plan

2023-02-15 Thread Matthew Miller
://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

SIG status, visibility, etc. [Re: Risc-V SIG?

2023-02-15 Thread Matthew Miller
If anyone is interested in tackling this, I'd love to hear your thoughts (either now, or save them up for when we get to planning the details of that part of the strategy). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing l

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-02-08 Thread Matthew Miller
of distro packaging (with, you know, guidelines and policies and transparency and so on) to people who might be running a different distro underneath. (And then hopefully coax them over entirely. I mean, if they want. No pressure.) -- Matthew Miller Fe

Re: Porting Fedora for the LoongArch architecture.

2023-01-10 Thread Matthew Miller
nected with the right people! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: FESCo revote on "Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer" Change proposal [was Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-03)]

2023-01-10 Thread Matthew Miller
bout others. Lets > reset and take the time to heal first, so people start actually > talking about real solutions again. Yep, I definitely agree with this. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

FESCo revote on "Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer" Change proposal [was Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-03)]

2023-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
t need special consideration. Most crucially, let's please drop the idea that anyone is acting out of malice. I'm quite sure that everyone arguing passionately on both sides of this issue has the best interest of Fedora and of Fedora Linux users in mind. Let's all keep that framing in mind in the

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:06:52PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. > Apologies for my snide remark that visibly came out rude, sorry. Thank you, Kevin. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Pr

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:59:46AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > The application can pick the options with which each library is compiled? > What a stupid idea! Now I understand why the language is called "Rust". Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. -- Matthe

Re: Self Introduction: Jeff Stewart

2022-11-07 Thread Matthew Miller
to > talk to you all! Cool! Welcome! What kind of things are you interested in? If you'd like to exercise your sysadmin skills, Fedora Infrastructure https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/ is probably the place. Or, if you're more interested in something else... there's a lot! -- Ma

Re: FontAwesome 6

2022-11-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 03:35:14PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 8:24 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > This is particulary nice for Fedora, since v6 includes our new logo! > Great! Do you happen to be a web developer, or play one on TV? :-) I have a hand-code

Re: [Rust] Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
ll, and is at a stage where > hopefully people can take a look and make suggestions for improvements. Cool -- glad to see this! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
iner to make the updates directly. Otherwise, I'll > file PRs and pester until they're merged. :-) Excellent. Making more work for people was my main concern, but if the people who would do the work are signed on, that's not an issue. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
erminology issue, I love the vision. Let's talk more about making an Objective around this. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: FontAwesome 6

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
rticulary nice for Fedora, since v6 includes our new logo! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: Deprecating intents in Modularity

2022-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
et a KDE-flavored set of these apps, while if you had GNOME Shell you'd get gtk ones. :) That said... obviously we didn't get there. So I am fine with dropping this feature. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel

systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
it if we slip... or... just not do that. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
etc.) - which are currently the only projects that are "painful" > to package - *without* completely changing the underlying packaging > paradigm or distribution mechanism. (I've been wanting to actually > write better tooling for this use case, but alas, Bachelor thesis i

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-31 Thread Matthew Miller
s the details of those. Would it make sense to have a Fedora Objective (at the Council level) around this? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@li

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
increasingly a niche case. (It is, on the other hand, easier and easier to get really good MicroSD cards for relatively cheap. SanDisk High Endurance for ten bucks. But not quite cheap enough for giveways. Maybe the giveway item should be a branded card reader...) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Pr

Amazon mirrors [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
think this is basically just a matter of _doing_. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedorapr

musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
://archive.org/details/sim_byte_1990-10_15_10/page/n249/mode/2up [2] Also, actually: https://docs.rs/bevy_dylib/0.8.1/bevy_dylib/. They don't recommend this for release builds... but that looks to be mainly for distribution reasons we could easily handle? [3] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org

http[s] mirrors [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
't think any of them are using rsync-ssl. I think "kicked out" is a bit harsh -- but we should definitely suggest it. And I think we should also do the metadata signing as soon as practical... defense in depth and all that. -- Matthew Miller

Re: Replacing GNOME Disks with Blivet GUI in comps' admin-tools?

2022-10-18 Thread Matthew Miller
it our flexibility, and doesn't really even expose useful collections to users. I'd love to see a modern replacement. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Important changes to software license information in Fedora packages (SPDX and more!)

2022-07-29 Thread Matthew Miller
on. If you have questions, please post them to the Fedora Legal mailing list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/le...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel-announce mailing list -- deve

Important changes to software license information in Fedora packages (SPDX and more!)

2022-07-29 Thread Matthew Miller
on. If you have questions, please post them to the Fedora Legal mailing list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/le...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: Some spins/labs to be dropped from F37

2022-07-26 Thread Matthew Miller
experienced. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-c

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